Is being gay in your DNA?

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just pointing out the gene could be there but remain inactive.
     
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    The theory I've seen espoused to explain this is that humans are pack/herd animals. Therefore this could aid in reproduction by having a dedicated caretaker type. One who won't end up with offspring of their own and so fills the gap with caretaking others offspring. Family groups would all carry the gene, it would just only be active in some. In that way it could continue to propagate as long as the family unit as a whole succeeds. (reproduces offspring who themselves reproduce.)
     
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    Except that you have no way of knowing when that programming happened. There is nothing in science (note that this new work talks about genes which "may" be associated with sexual development) which indicates it is in-utero.
     
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    And you know that they had 'perfectly normal upbringings' how? By what measure? By who's measure? And when did you begin measuring each case? ... from birth?
     
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    I think it's partially genetic. I think the overwhelming majority are hardwired to be heterosexual, while a very small percentage are hardwired to be homosexual. I do, however, believe there is a small percentage that could go either way based on their life experiences.
     
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    Very very few would choose gay. Let's be honest.
     
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    I see the reverse. Men who require very overt femininity in order to 'perform', are struggling against a compromised mating drive. They are just a little short of being actual fetishists (those who can only respond to abnormal cues). Extrapolating, it's easy to see a homosexual latency in this.

    OTOH, men who are able to be 'cued' by anything remotely female, even if just a tiny pair of boobs in men's clothing, are your 'super straight' guys.
     
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    I'm personally not convinced that schizophrenia is genetic, either.
     
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    Wanna bet? That awkward kid who was never likely to get a date (with a girl), is suddenly getting hit on (by boys) simply by ramping up the gay factor. It's been happening with tedious regularity since the 1960s.
     
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    Watch Kevin Spacey start to develop a lisp now. It's coming.
     
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    Respectively, I disagree. Take a look at a Millennial's facebook timeline from their friends from 2012 to 2015 and you'll see more and more come out. Watch shows like Survivor, The Voice, or Big Brother and watch how they wait until they're on national television to come out so they can get attention and sympathy.
     
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    Whether some humans are genetically programmed to be heterosexual or develop into heterosexuals at a formative age, some manage to live normal, productive lives without an undo fixation upon the sexual orientation of others.
     
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    Millions of straight couples have chosen not to reproduce as well. Mother Nature has a way of regulating populations that don't have predators.
    There a numerous gay couples that still have an urge to reproduce, and do so through artificial means - just like thousands of straight couples who use artificial means to reproduce.

    End of the day - does it matter if it's genetic or a choice. They really don't effect the overall birth rate. They don't harm anyone else when it's consensual. I think that some people just aren't happy unless they can freak out about what other people are doing.
     
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    I guess it does double ones chances of getting laid! If someone is willing to swing that way, there must be a percentage of attraction to the same sex that existed beforehand. I went to school in North Hollywood and there were plenty of unpopular kids. None were openly gay.
     
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    If I was really interested in this? I would never rely upon "news" outlets. Go to the peer reviewed primary research literature.
     
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    You cannot speak to their state of mind. What people consider "Reality TV" is not even close to reality. No one came out on TV unless it was in the script. It is their job to get attention/viewers and sell advertising.
     
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    well they definitely effect the birth rate. how exactly is unknown but the gays of yesterday who got married and had kids but then cruised the public bathrooms arn't doing the married with children thing as much anymore, that's for sure.
     
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    I'm not fluid.
     
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    I guess you're correct. My earliest memories of "sex" were in kindergarten and first grade. I remember liking a blond girl in a short dress. My thoughts didn't really go any further than that. But when that was "programmed" into me, I have no idea.
     
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    I couldn't tell you. I really just don't know.

    As far as how it would stick around should it be genetic, same way ciclecell anemia does.

    This effect is known as pleiotropy.

    https://www.google.com/search?ie=UT...mobile-us&source=android-browser&q=pleiotropy

    If you don't want to read about it, pleiotropy is when a single gene has two or more unrelated traits.

    In the case of cicle cell anemia it is an effect of malaria resistant blood. The same gene that makes a lot of people resistant to malaria makes a few have cicle cell anemia.

    I imagine evolutionarily speaking malaria resistance is far to valuable an adaptation for it to be lost because a small percentage with the gene have cicle cell anemia.

    Supposing homosexuality is genetic this is how it can be still around and not going anywhere.
     
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    The waist to hip ratio preference is universal in men around the world and in disparate cultures - even primitive cultures. Since this relates to concepts of beauty, which in turn is about reproductive viability, it might be argued that there is indirect evidence for genetic sexual attraction.

    I got caught kissing Donna B under the pig in nursery school! I wasn't going to waste any time! I knew what I liked even at age 3 or 4 - those soft things with curls, called girls!

    I also think that young men who react to porn like I did the first time, didn't need programming. You had never seen a woman like that before. But when you did, you immediately REEEEEEEEEALLY liked it! That was about all I could think about afterwards. I had found my uncles magazines and suddenly I knew my place in the universe!
     
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    Depends on the person.

    Some may have some genetic basis for the behavior, some may not.

    As with the sex/gender spectrum, these inquiries are in their infancy.

    But if there is ANY genetic basis (for some), it certainly wouldn't fade away.

    Many human children are still born with tails and/or fur, sometimes depending on period of gestation.

    Nature, zhe is a tricky one. :)
     
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    Well, I didn't tell anybody I was homosexual until i was in my 20s after being in relationships with women. I was trying not to be.

    As far as being born homosexual...I couldn't tell you either. It manifested in my adolescents. Before that I was just a normal boy.
     
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