Is California on its way to banning rodeos? Behind the growing movement to buck the event

OMGAWD YOU are FOR ROPING children by the neck and throwing them to the ground ( and I doubt I'll see YOU VOLUNTEER FOR THAT PLEASURE)


I think someone should flag this....but it does explain about your problems..

 

I'm just playing along with your stupid make-believe new rodeo event, I don't equate children and calves like you do, now do you know any 220lb to 280lb kids that can run 20 mph or not?

 

How do you feel about bull fighting?

 

I don't approve, the end result is the death of the bull.
I've already provided the small percentage of animals that are injured in rodeos.

 

B, b, but it's a TRADITION !!!!!!!

 

So death isn't OK but torture is....(???)

BTW, animals have died in rodeos.....

 

Not here.

 

I provided other links too, of course I provided the rules the rodeo association follows also.

btw, why are your posts always so disjointed?

 

"TORTURE"!!!

btw, you never answered before, what is that cowboy riding in your make-believe rodeo? Hopefully not a tortured confuse horse!!

I'm leaving for a hockey game soon, I'll catch you later.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
B, b, but it's a TRADITION !!!!!!!

So what?!!!

"Tradition" is what animal abusers bank their arguments on....well, do you think only Americans can do that ????

 

I owned a rodeo company for 5 years. And we hosted the East Coast World Finals for 5 years in Charlotte.
We held 7 championship events
Bull Riding
Bare back
Saddle bronc
Team roping
Calf roping
Barrel Racing
Steer wrestling

I would dare you to mistreat any stock contractors bull, horse, steer, or calf.
That would constitute a real time a$$ whopping and a guaranteed trip to a local hospital.

Every time we had yet another misinformed rodeo protestor group about animal rights, we would take them behind the stock pens and let them talk with anyone they wanted too. Even media people. Not once did we ever receive a bad right up about our show or the animals participation. And I have never been to any sanctioned event where any animal was being abused or tortured. EVER

 

And you know all this from your vast experience in rodeo?
And where does your infinite knowledge of livestock and rodeo come from.
Do tell me, you saw it once on TV. You have proven you know nothing about livestock or rodeo.
You read some idiots idea of what rodeo is and thought you knew something. You don't know anything.

1. All rodeo stock has to be in physically above average status to compete. This means a diet of grains and wheat over and above normal livestock provisions. Vet care above all other livestock as they travel to compete and crossing state lines means quarantine for animals that are not fit or up to date on shots, worming, and other health issues. Unhealthy or strung out animals do not perform well and points are calculated not just on the competitor, but on the animal they are competing with.

2. No stock contractor uses any electronic shocking devices to get animals to perform. Thats just ignorance from the crowd that knows nothing about livestock. The horses and bulls you see bucking in the arena do this naturally. Not all bulls or horses buck. They are bred for the performance.

If you ever attend a stock sale like in Ft Worth, you will find 3 types of buyers. Ranchers for breeding, Killer buyers for beef, and rodeo owners. Average livestock is purchased at the cheapest rate for slaughter. Ranchers will buy bulls and horses for breading stock. Rodeo buyers pay top dollar for animals that love to buck. They come out of the gates doing what they do best and will their entire lives.

3. Our livestock stampedes to get to the arena, to be selected to get on the trucks. They know their jobs and they love what they do. For two 8 second trips out of a chute gate bi-weekly they travel with us, get the best grains, and get hands on attention EVERY DAY. You will never break one. This is what the do. We have championship bucking horses on our ranch that are 28 years old that have been in rodeo their entire life.

These horses and bulls travel together and live together. Most of them you can approach and actually pet. I have been working livestock most of my life and rodeo livestock is by far the healthiest and most vibrant representations of their species. They crave your attention and get excited to perform when they hear the people in the stands. And we can all tell the difference because they don't give the crowd a second thought after they perform. Once they leave the arena, they know exactly where to go.

I have had bulls and horses try and fight me to get in front of other animals to get to the loading chutes. They do the same thing when loading the trucks and you have to have electric prods to discourage that behavior because they will go over top on another animal to make sure they are going.

4. Calves and steers wear protective gear so they don't get rope burn (Not like ranch life) and what they do in the arena is no different than what they do on any open plain ranch. The difference is they are cycled so they only get to go maybe once a month. If they had a choice of doing this once a month for the attention, grains, and living areas they stay in vs harsh ranch life foraging for food, exposed to the elements 24/7, branding for ownership ranging, snake bites, being hunted by predator's, and insects, their lives as rodeo stock are greatly enhanced over the realities of actual ranch life.

You take your family to a petting zoo and think, awww, these precious little calves. Yet you have NEVER seen or been around actual ranch cattle and don't try and tell me you have because that cat is already out of the bag.

5. As far as groin straps LOL, these are not groin straps. They are fleece lined bucking straps only used on horses. Roping Ranch horses get used to them because they keep the saddle from being pulled forward when roping large stock. All it does to bucking horses is make then want to kick higher to get it off. It doesn't make them buck or in any way gets anywhere close to their genitals. Mares, stallions, and gildings all use the very same strap. It doesn't leave any marks or lacerations on the horse. As a matter of fact, sometimes the saddle broncs leave the derigging chute with it on and we have to go get it later after the show is over. They don't even pay it any attention once they leave the arena.

So tell us, whats your vast experience with ranch and rodeo stock, other than what you read in some activist animal rights pamphlet.

 

What a load of rubbish.! Calves wear protective gear? They don't wear any gear. And what happens to the calves once they are no longer calves? Laughingly you claim that they enjoy being tortured

 

If you have to speak in such a sensationalistic way, you have no point or an incredibly weak argument.

They live better than any other animal their type and in return they're 'exploited' for 16 seconds a month. Stop acting like this is some gross mistreatment of animals.

So to answer another question you posed, would a human accept this type of an offer? HELL YEAH they would....without hesitation.

Is being honest about a situation really that hard?

 

Seems to be for you......"better than any other animal of their type" ??? SO WHAT? "better" doesn't mean GOOD.
What a sensationalistic thing to say..
So you find the animals that are treated the worst and if rodeo animals aren't treated that badly it's OK....disgusting!!!!

""16 seconds a month" ....not true at all....

 

The FACT that the calf is jerked to a standstill BY THE NECK at about 25 MPH...a "soft " rope DOES NOT CHANGE THAT FACT.

 

Someone else has already corrected everything you've said wrong in this thread....and it's a lot.

You clearly have no clue about what you're talking about so addressing your absurd accusations is useless. You've also responded as if I said things I didn't. You've also said things that are blatantly untrue. It really was in impressive post.

And yea, at least for bucking animals, it's seconds per month that they're used in rodeos.

Get educated, then come back.

 

Lol. You've ran away from your claim that calves wear protective gear and you've ran away from the question which was what happens to the calves when they are no longer calves. What a surprise!

And now you claim more give! They are stopped in their tracks and thrown backwards at their necks.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Seems to be for you......"better than any other animal of their type" ??? SO WHAT? "better" doesn't mean GOOD.
What a sensationalistic thing to say..
So you find the animals that are treated the worst and if rodeo animals aren't treated that badly it's OK....disgusting!!!!

""16 seconds a month" ....not true at all....

YAWNNNNNN...yet another poster who can't address posts but has to resort to insults...the sure sign of a losing argument (as if defending animal abuse isn't enough of a sign of a losing argument)

 

LOL. There is quite a bit of steer wrestling on this ranch. A lot of heifer and bull calf wrestling as well. Want to come participate so you can be part of the process of producing that beef you eat, the leather goods you enjoy, etc.? Or do you just want to continue to pay me to do your dirty work?

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
And there is NO steer wrestling on ranches.

Oh, gosh, you must have a really primitive outfit....I know people who raise and eat all kinds of meat (beef included) and never have to wrestle it to the ground...!!


Like I have asked others....would you like to run down an arena and have a cowboy chase you down, lasso you by the neck, jerking you violently onto the ground?

 

LOL. How do they vaccinate, castrate, etc. their calves? Maybe they use hydraulic calf cradles that break the legs of a small percentage of calves? Some people here have tried that method and lost a lot of calves.

I would be very interested in hearing a detailed description of how these people you know raise cattle never having to put one on the ground. Sounds fascinating. Go…

Sure, any time you want to try and rope me by the neck you are more than welcome to try. Name the time and place.

 

Any interest in participating in raising/doctoring/etc. the beef you eat? Didn’t think so. LOL

 

They do? Got a Facebook post to prove it? lol

 

Look up "chutes".

I never said I wanted to, I want you to volunteer to be chased down and roped by the neck, and thrown to the ground (by your neck) just like they do to calves to see how it feels