Is compulsory military service immoral?

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Is compulsory military service immoral?

  1. Yes

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    37.9%
  2. No

    36 vote(s)
    62.1%
  1. Bob0627

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    Show me where I posted that drivel.
     
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    Just as easily as you can walk away from your job. Why would they walk away when they only had a 2 year commitment if they were drafted and a large part of it was taken up with training. How many actual slaves in the past only had to serve for 2 years then became free after it? So being drafted does not equate to being a slave.
     
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    But it is your opinion that all war is a war crime and not based in fact.
     
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    God helps those who help themselves.
     
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    Immoral no,inefficient yes.
    A large proportion of draftees resented being there and rarely gave 100 %,and had to be chased to do anything right.
     
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    God punishes.
     
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    Well if Sweden is ever invaded we know who the first collaborator will be. Those who would not be willing to defend their own homeland are not worthy of that land. Since its just Europe anyway, when you folks do run into problems, kindly leave us out of it...
     
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    Why aren't the forum right wingers who claim to be Christian demanding that the military industrial complex corporate welfare scheme be dissolved?

    As I have shown previously, according to their Bible, combat is NOT necessary in order to win war. Further, as shown in the Book of Judges, the only amount of soldiers needed is 300. If these professing Christians would only trouble themselves to read their own Bible they would know you only need this amount to win a war (again, no combat needed).


    Those professing Christians who refuse to endorse this Truth are hypocrites, Pharisees, and Antichrists.
     
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    How many draftees did you know?
     
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    You said war is always a war crime and a racket and that no war is justifiable.

    That would include defensive wars, would it not?
     
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    If I walk away from my job, my employer can’t send some of its other employees with guns to kick in my door and put me in prison.
     
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    To talk to about 20,none of them as friends,but there were plenty of anecdotes about them.I was a specialist and did not have any great amount of contact with them.
     
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    cops do that all the time in the ghetto - that's why the 2d Amendment should be used by people there. too bad the far right won't support them but that's to be expected from hypocrites like them
     
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    It's certainly immoral in America. Look at our for profit war machine, our endless global militarist occupations abroad, our endless wars of profiteering and resource/wealth extraction, and the amount of funding we deplete from our own society to maintain the illusion.
     
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    That's what all the fuss was about over the Black Panther Party, they did. Funny how quickly Gov Reagan got to be all about gun control in response. What?!?!?!? No! The 2nd ain't for negroes!!!
     
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    There's no such thing as a "defensive" war.
     
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    Ah, so when Poland was invaded in 1939, they were committing an unjustified war crime and engaging in a racket by defending themselves in a war against the Nazis?

    I take it you think they should have disbanded their military and just let the Nazis annex them without a fight?
     
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    So then you actually have very little knowledge of them or their feelings about their service.
     
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    I take it you're posting a bunch of idiotic drivel. Try posting something intelligent.
     
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    You just claimed there was no such thing as a defensive war. What exactly would you call the Poles war with Germany in 1939 if not a defensive war?

    Were they committing a war crime by defending themselves?
     
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    Seems to be quite a wide poll. It would have been interesting to know the ages of the voters and even their physical condition. Makes me wonder if the majority who support national service are too old or suffer from a physical impairment to be drafted.
     
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    There's only one kind of war, a war of aggression. Defending one's nation from an invasion is just that. You're desperately attempting to justify war, that's pretty sick mentality. This is exactly the kind of mentality the US government tries to indoctrinate gullible Americans to believe, the fake "war on terror" is nothing more than a war of aggression.

    "If we don't fight them over there we will have to fight them here" - George Bush and a bunch of other war criminal racketeers

    "War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength." - George Orwell, "1984"
     
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    Defending one’s nation from aggression is defensive war.
     
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    The war criminals got you convinced, that's obvious.
     

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