Is healthcare a "right?"

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  1. Richard The Last

    Richard The Last Well-Known Member

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    I'm guessing ....very little?
     
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    LMAO...that's there is called "irony".
     
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    A handful out of hundreds doesn't count.
     
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    Government Sponsored Enterprises like Fannie and Freddie.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riverside_County_Regional_Medical_Center#Services

    That is only one of many Government Funded Hospitals.

    Government Health Services are readily available. If they choose not to use them better phone their bankruptcy attorney.

    https://findahealthcenter.hrsa.gov/
     
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    Prove it
     
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    Of which represents about 20% of US hospitals, which means many people have no access to such. In other words, not as "readily available" as you claim.
     
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    Free? You mean no one is paying for it all, at anytime?
     
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    Free if you're on welfare, sitting on the couch playing X-Box all day. Not free at all if you're working for a living.
     
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    Prove it.
     
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    You are making the claim of the program being great you prove it
     
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    I asserted the system works and is fine, then you said.......

    I asked for proof of your assertion that "You die waiting in that system" below is your response.

    I think we will have to assume by your lack of any evidence, your assertion is total Bull Crap. It also brings into question your other posts on this thread.
     
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    I asked for your assertion that these people have ready access to care. No politician in America will take your stance that the system works just fine now.


    Your position is a very lonely one
     
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    So you can't prove that people die waiting in the system? I've posted it a hundred time it seems, but just for you I'll do it again....

    https://findahealthcenter.hrsa.gov/

    The ready access is there simply plug in your zip code......

    Now, prove that people die waiting in the system or admit you're wrong. It's only Democrats that think the currently available public system is broken. Medicare/Medicaid with a low estimate of $120 billion in fraud between them is the system that is truly broken.

    213 million private insured with $70 billion in fraud. 43 million Public insured with $60 Billion in fraud (I used the lowest estimate).

    Private insurance fraud has approx $330 in fraud per insured.

    Medicare Government run insurance approx $1430 in fraud per insured.


    Proof already posted on the thread.
     
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    The waiting list is forever in those places. You die on the list.


    Not a politician in the country will come out and say the system is great. Only you.


    Why?
     
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    These health centers provide primary and preventive services. Now what about someone poor who's involved in a car accident and needs extensive care? What about those poor who need ongoing chemo treatments?
    I have to laugh when these health centers tout delivering "high quality" primary care. I guess "high quality" is a relative term.
     
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    I've already asked for proof of this twice, should you not, don't as me for proof of anything you will be told to look it up for yourself.
     
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    Dude no one believes your plan works well. No one. It is a recipe for bankruptcy and death.

    Find me someone that supports your plan
     
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    I'll take the fact you can't prove your point as the white flag of surrender. Conversation over.
     
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    Irony...heh heh heh
     
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    So no one agrees with you? Not even one person?


    Really?


    Isnt that something?
     
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    You can't have your cake and eat it too. When someone else makes a point you want them to prove it. When you make a point you want someone else to prove you wrong. At some point in the discussion I think it would only be fair if you prove something. You know, give and take. If you disagree then prove me wrong.

    Rich
     
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    So you can't prove your point, why should we believe any of your posts? No one can now.
     
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    No one certainly believes your plan works. Politicians would be screaming it from the rafters. This is how it works. First they may not have a hospital in your city or even your state. Then if you survive the massive wait list you can still be pushed into bankruptcy. Sliding scale does not slide that far for major surgery.


    It is a nightmare and everyone knows it
     
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