Is it possible to be a Liberal Christian?

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Libhater, Dec 13, 2012.

  1. Heretic

    Heretic Active Member

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    I'm a SINNER. I won't be allowed into Heaven unless God forgives me of my SINS. I hope that He does.

    But I'm probably going to the hellfires like most of you, too. However, I REPENT for my SINS. I only hope that I can ATONE for them.
     
  2. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    If hating some of God's creation gets your sins forgiven. I think you're in.
    But somehow, hate isn't one of the things that will help getting in. IMO.
     
  3. junobet

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    How about starting your atonement with actually reading the bible? You may find there's only one lake of fire and that it is not mentioned in the Old Testament.
     
  4. Heretic

    Heretic Active Member

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    Some aspects of the NT are correct and true. But most of it is lies and blasphemy. The Roman Catholics have perverted the TRUE WORD OF GOD over the past 1000 years. The Roman Catholics have betrayed God.
     
  5. Libhater

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    Problem with that thinking is that war and the death penalty are not considered murder, but you knew that now didn't ya?
     
  6. Prof_Sarcastic

    Prof_Sarcastic New Member

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    Haha, the fabulous irony here, and the fact that it seems you aren't bright enough to notice that irony, really made me smile. thank you.
     
  7. junobet

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    Surely Libhater and Heretic are just playing with Poe's Law a bit.
    Just in case you're not, Libhater: psssst, abortion is not considered murder either. Whether a good Christian should consider war, the death penalty, abortion, causing a woman's death by denying her an abortion, etc. etc. to be murder or not is another question.
     
  8. taikoo

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    In this fantasy of yours, is it ok to keep on deliberately "sinning", as long as you keep (quite insincerely) repenting?

    I ask because you persist in spreading falsehoods,tho you have every opportunity to determine that they are false, yet, you deliberately neglect to make such determination.

    Why?
     
  9. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    So you have a different book other than the bible for your diatribe?
    Or is you bible different than most every other christian?
     
  10. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is historical fact that the Bible has been, changed, altered, and been subject to ommision and interpolation over the years. I also agree that much of modern religious dogma does not much reflect what is taught in the Bible.

    This then leaves us with a problem .. Who is God ? and what is the "True word of God"

    You seem to have the answer ! Who is God .. and what is the "True word of God"
     
  11. Libhater

    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    I take my marching orders from GOD HIMSELF, and HE told me that abortion is murder and that murder is a mortal sin. I haven't checked the statistics as of late (because I'm more of a common sense/reality based person), but I'm willing to bet you that there were more deaths of a woman during the abortion procedure then there was from a woman going through the full pregnancy term. Btw, as it stands now--who's denying any woman her Roe v Wade right to abort/murder her child?
     
  12. dairyair

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    He told you? Voices in your head?
     
  13. taikoo

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    Hope them voices wont tell him its time to sally forth to kill all them evil atheists.
     
  14. junobet

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    Well, your 'common sense' won't help Savita Halappanavar for example. My common sense tells me that women do indeed die during the abortion procedure, especially when said abortion is carried out by some back alley quack doctors many desperate women will go to if they see no other choice. I totally agree that it is horrible when a woman sees no other choice other than to abort. Which is why as a Christian I want a society that offers women other choices and help in any possible way, rather than a society full of moralistic condemnations and moaning about 'welfare-mums'.

    As for God: I'm not a prophet, but He informs me that most 'marching orders' are from the devil. He also informs me that the death penalty is murder and that these are followers of Christ who truly do His bidding:

    http://www.christiantoday.co.uk/article/worldwide.christian.protest.against.death.penalty/1755.htm
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you claiming that you talked to God personally .. and that God answered ?
     
  16. Libhater

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    What happens in my personal life is besides the point; care to address my point that there are more deaths of the woman via the abortion process than there is of the woman during her pregnancy term?
     
  17. taikoo

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    Dont submit your fake-o claims into evidence if you arent willing to take responsibiity for them.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That point was not the main one I was interested in but sure .. I would like to see what the stats are.

    The point I am interested in is your comment that "all abortion is murder" ..

    The only support you gave for your claim was "God told me so" .. you stated this publically so it could hardly be said to be personal or at least that fact is no longer personal.

    In this case .. your conversation with God is not "beside the point" .. " it is the point" as this is the only evidence you have submitted in support of your claim.

    It is a good thing that society at large does not accept "God told me so" as a justification. .. and good thing too. There are large numbers of frauds or delusional people that can and do make this claim and it would not be good to have follow rules made by these people on the basis of "God told jme so".

    So even if I did believe you .. society should not make a rule outlawing abortion on the basis of your claim because there is no valid support for "God told me so"

    That said .. I am curious how you know that it is God talking to you and not some malicious spirit.
     
  19. taikoo

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    Considering the number of falsehoods emanating from said person,if the "word' comes from somewhere outside him, it appears to be the dark side.
     
  20. Libhater

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    When you can tell me who it is that says its alright for a woman to abort her child, and who it is that says that aborting said child isn't murder, and then go on to tell me that this person telling you these things is more credible than GOD Almighty--then perhaps we'll have a discussion about my connections and my conversations with the KING. But until you disclose your authority on this matter, I'll just have to assume you're referring to some malicious spirit who has somehow captured the essence of your personal psyche.
     
  21. dairyair

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    Did God tell anyone else that all abortion is murder?
     
  22. Prof_Sarcastic

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    Obviously to you nobody has more credibility. To those of us who think god is a figment of peoples' imagination, EVERYONE has more credibility.
     
  23. Libhater

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    I've always believed that the opposite of GOD's wisdom would be some sort of secular Satan craftily spinning his demonic spell amongst the sheeple masses. Is this the entilty of which you claim has more credibility that GOD Almighty?
     
  24. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You seem to want to avoid the question by making stuff up.

    No one claimed to be more credible than God ? What is not credible is your claim that God spoke to you directly.

    Fact: The God of Abraham commands abortion in the Bible.

    Either your claim is false, your God (or at least the entity speaking to you) is not the God of Abraham, or the Bible is not Gods word.

    Which is it ?
     
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    What one believes and what may be real, are not always the same.
     

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