Is it really so bad if a man slips a woman an abortion pill?

Bill Cosby would approve.

There is a birth control pill women can take before sex. They are chewable and mint flavor.

(They're called predickamints)

 

That was terrible! (so why am I laughing )

 

Its okay to laugh as long as you feel guilty afterwards!

 

It would be passing a law that will allow men to abandon their children - and you're trying to pass it off as being the same as a woman's choice on whether to end her pregnancy.

 

How is passing a law that would allow men to not be responsible for the reproductive choice of a woman forcing reproduction choice on women ?

Such a law does not force reproductive choice on women ... Period.

What it does is not allow a woman to make someone else responsible for her reproductive choice.

 

diamondlil didn't mention "force".

 

DL's whole premise has been arguing for a law that lets men opt out of child support is a law that allows men to control reproductive choice of women.

It is a nonsense premise that makes no sense.

 

That's not what I've been arguing. You are trying to claim the law is unfair to men as they don't have a reproductive choice after sex, whereas women do.


This choice women have forces men to become fathers against their will, but that is not the point of the law.

Women's choices are to do with their right to bodily autonomy.

Child support laws are a whole different matter.

 

THIS is what I posted:

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diamondlil didn't mention "force"""""""""""""


YOU claimed she did and now you want to ignore that lie by saying something that has no bearing on what I posted.

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Diamondlil didn't mention "force".

 

We are talking about law. Law = force by denfinition

 

Both parents are forced by law to financially support their children, unless both agree otherwise and circumstances permit.

Once the child is born, it has rights of its own.

Those rights are legally protected.

I don't see anything wrong with that.

 

If someone has consented to having a child, making this child "their Child" in a sense other than mere Genetic relationship I would agree.

This has nothing to do with what we were talking about though.

 

If you choose to live in America, you agree to be bound by the law. If you claim to live here legally, you've given your word. Holding someone to their word, requiring them to meet the terms they agreed to, that's not the same as forcing something upon them. They elected to be bound in that way. They signed the contract.




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You are way outside the context of the conversation. A Law by its very nature and intent allows the State to use force to enforce compliance with that law.

 

*shrug* Ours is a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. You are complaining that you are forcing you to comply with what you voluntarily agreed to.



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A law doesn't force anyone to comply....I'm not arguing that...you said she said "force", she didn't.

 

Quit putting words in my mouth that I did not utter and go take a Poly Sci 100 class.

 

Of course the law is a mechanism that forces compliance. It does so through the threat of physical violence, fine, imprisonment and so on.

This is Political Science 100 so stop it.

 

And many people ignore all that and commit the crime....see, they were NOT forced to obey the law...

And the other poster never mentioned "force".

 

Fill it yourself or close it. Empty heads with flapping lips invite speculation.



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Just because there is force being applied does not mean that some will not try and resist or go against that force. You are engaging in the most ridiculous semantic nonsense.

Please stop.

 

Nonsense. Your argument boils down to men not having a birth control choice after sex.

Call whatever else you like, but that, in a nutshell, is your gripe.

 

You can repeat this baseless and unsupported accusation until you are blue in the face if you like. Repetition is not going to make it any less false.

I have always admitted the fact that in this country men do not have a birth control choice after sex. I have never argued that men should have a birth control choice after sex.

What I have argued is that one person should not be made responsible for the birth control (or reproductive choice) of someone else.

That you can't manage to understand the difference is not my fault.

 

What difference is THAT???

You claim one person shouldn't have the choice, but then suggest it is OK for someone to assault a woman's choice by drugging her to have an abortion!!!

I don't see anything you can say to make that sound consistent.

 

Where did I suggest it was ok to drug a woman to give her an abortion ? Get a grip.