Is Muslim Immigration a Form of Conscious Invasion That Should Be Resisted?

You're obviously saying they should have. --Which is self-contradictory, isn't it?

 

Maybe you should look up the definition of contradiction and the context of its allegation.

 

Which reminds me, why do we assume that American Indians are the true native Americans? Are we sure it wasn't the Eskimos? Or some small group that the Indians completely decimated when the Indians arrived from Alaska or Mexico?

Frankly, I imagine that just about every country on earth (except ones who are split-offs) came from a conquering by the sword. So every people is to blame except for the ORIGINAL settlers of that country, who no one could possibly put their finger on accurately at this point, and who may have only been a group of 12 people when they were first conquered by the club, fist, bow and arrow or slingshot.

The term "Native American" is more of a creation of Liberal guilt than recognizable accuracy.

 

1. I think you mean "Godwin"...not "Goddel's"....as in "Godwin's Law". And I admit a violation.

2. But I thought I'd just skip ahead. The phrases have changed a bit, the target religious minority has gone from Jews to Muslims, but the sentiments....even the "solutions" are almost the same.

About two years ago on another blog, I took a quote from Hitler....erased his namej, substituted "Muslim" for "Jew" and "Islam" for "Judaism"....and asked some of the more virulent Islamophobes on that blog "Do you agree with this statement?" (It was similar to the quote I posted)....

and they agreed with it, wholeheartedly. And when I did the "prestige" and revealed who said it and that it was about a different religious minority....they STILL stood by their support of the quote, applied to Muslims.

Ironically, Hitler had an easier row to hoe, since there was a higher percentage of Jews in Germany.....than the miniscule 0.9% of Muslims in America.....but it seems Der Furhrer didn't have the benefit, before State control of Media, to a series of bigoted radio talk show hosts, numerous websites, and of course a "cable news network" (or two) that dedicated themselves to promoting his religious bigotry even before he came to power.

FORTUNATELY, even the Republican Party won't participate to the extend American Islamophobes want in their desired agenda.....for the very fact it is openly bigoted and eerily resembles the anti-Semitism of 1930s Germany. Like racists, the GOP may want their votes...but they can't be seen actually endorsing their agenda.

To be more blunt...you and those like you...will be ignored. Even by the national political party that might seem to be most sympathetic to you.

And as is fated to those who ignored politically.....you will be politically impotent.

 

Yes, ex-lib....I'm sure that the Cheyenne and the Cherokee gave out 100s of smallpox-infected blankets to the Eskimos (who are actually called "Inuits", by the way....but I'm sure they don't teach that at the EIB Institute).

 

Oh, now I get you.

You're a hater. No wonder you don't understand what's going on.

Hate will kill you. Get rid of it, Jonah.

Just because your namesake survived the belly of a whale, doesn't mean you can remain a hater and be safe. There are 'monsters' who could eat whales, and they have a taste for haters.

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Gorn, you make me laugh. Why so angry with life, my friend?

You didn't get screwed, you know.

 

I'm laughing at your bizarre theory......which is borne of somebody who like most apostates, becomes the most fundamentalist in his "religion".

 

Great point, even the "Native Americans" were aware of the Anasazi which predated them. There could have been indigenous peoples before the Anasazi too.

 

If pointing out your hypocrisy makes me a self-hater then so be it.

 

You, as a Jew? Act and look white to minimize the chances of them committing a hate crime against you.

 

Well, I would assume you were being an ass. I live in a community that has many Muslims and never experienced a rude moment. I have seen Muslims get upset before, but at behavior that I would be upset at as well had it been my business. I typically find Muslims polite, a bit conservative and reserved, perhaps careful to avoid offending might be a good description. If your experienced something different that this stereotype I have observed, then I can only assume it was for cause.

 

Is Muslim Immigration a Form of Conscious Invasion That Should Be Resisted?

No, it is the fiction that is developed in the brains of those that have irrational fears and hate often formed by reading and listening to far too much right-wing propagandists.

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Yes, because that happens all the time.........................

 

There are many ppl that are indigenous. Uk for example has a large indigenous population so does South America. It is these same indigenous South Americans who are the descendants of native North Americans that you oppose and try to delegitimise by stating that " everyone one is a brutal colonialist" I'm sorry but it is the euro American that is the colonialist and you are afraid that karma will come back to haunt you sooner rather than later. Just chill. Nothing you say or do can change what will happen in the future, it will be whatever is ordained by the most high

 

SMACK EM

 

I wasn't around in 1600 so I wouldn't know. However, I do know that they are multiplying and are getting converts, so it is not out of the realm of possibility. Why else would they want to live among a majority of infidels?

 

I would like to have your input on that--would the old thread be enough? Since I know little about the actual facts of the Crusades I feel it would be inappropriate for me to begin a thread about it. If you begin one I will join in.

 

Thank you for the history. I respect your concern for how people are treated if they are in a minority situation, but because of this sensitivity of yours I also am finding it difficult to understand the lack of sympathy for those who do not want to be treated as a minority in their own countries later in life by newcomers to the culture. I feel it is a legitimate concern, but you appear to brush it away with no consideration at all.

Also, I did not post as a part of some crusade but because I really want to explore this question.

How safe is it to allow how many Muslim immigrants into the country before we start to see problems from that? Or, in other words, how many Muslims can a non-Muslim country safely absorb without itself becoming Muslim-dominated?

The Scandinavians and French already seem to be having real problems from this.

Just as an aside, correlation does not prove causality. Hitler would probably not
have been able to obtain power if he had not tapped into concerns many people were having. That, however, does not necessarily mean that the concerns were illegitimate or automatically led to a person like Hitler obtaining power. On the contrary, it is when seemingly legitimate concerns are arbitrarily dismissed and there seems no other hope of seeing them handled that makeshift solutions like a Hitler emerge.

 

Your assumption is wrong, and I can't help wondering why you made it.

 

Direct question-

What SPECIFCALLY would you "do" to or about Muslims who are citizens of the United States?

Not immigrants or future immigrants. Those here now...who are citizens? Anything? Or are they "safe"?

 

My experience is the same as that of Flaming Moderate. I have several Muslim friends and have had Muslim coworkers. The accusations made against these people are just plain crazy.

 

I see you are not willing to consider the topic of this thread unless that fear is laid to rest. However, the answer to it is not controlled by me or anyone like me with similar concerns, but by the Muslims already residing in this country themselves. So far we only have a very small Muslim population in this country, but we are already being presented with the first symptoms of Jihadist activity. My understanding is that 9-11 was met with cheers in some quarters in the US, and I was myself in a movie theater listening to the filmed account of 9-11 when some Muslims sitting behind me broke into laughter. If the Muslims in this country feel the murder of those 6000 workers was an event to celebrate and laugh about, maybe they should not be here. That, however, is what needs to be discussed and explored, before the point at which rash decisions like the ones after Pearl Harbor are taken. Not discussing and exploring the possible consequences of Jihadist activity in the US on other Muslims who have chosen to reside here could lead to some very unfair and unexpected consequences later on if Jihadist activities continue to occur.

Historically, the US meets the threat of betrayal by taking steps to protect itself.
We just don't follow a religion that does that preemptively, by wiping everyone else out.

 

If you are referring to what I posted, I made no accusations, I simply described my observations. If the observations I have had of Muslims that are strangers do not match those of yours of Muslims with whom you are friendly, we have just had different experiences. That does not necessarily negate either experience.

Anyone can be friendly individually with people from another cultural group if they are known personally, The topic under discussion relates to a cultural group as a whole.

 

Well the Turks kill and expel minorities in the lands they invade, but we can be better than that. So I suggest concentration camps with an option to exit the country.

 

the right has already added the Muslim God to our Money and our Pledge, they are in on it, they are a part of the Muslim brotherhood


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How do you define "the right"?