Is PF overrun with Racists?

YOU'RE not.

 

Satanism is generally not tied to a specific race. Satanism is a modern movement, and most "Satanists" are sad lonely individuals thinking it might get them laid.

Judaism, Islam, Hundi, Buddhism, these are all religions that are very strongly tied to specific regions of the world. It becomes almost impossible to seperate them from the primary races that share the beliefs. And you do not agree with them, big deal? I do not agree with a lot of religions, but I certainly do not go around saying my beliefs to the world, because that is not my place. If you do not like the Jewish faith, then don't convert. If you do not like Islam, then do not convert. But that is your choice, and nobodies else.

You just love to play word games, but you really are not fooling anybody with them. And this is just what we need, a closet racist.

Come on out of the closet and embrace your hate, it is at least more honest.

 

thank you for admitting that your reasons for hating Obama are irrational and nothing to do with his policies.

 

How did you come up with that irrational summation? First of all, I don't hate anyone, including anti American-anti life leftists. Second, about 99% of my reason(s) for wanting obama out of office have to do with his marxist/socialist policies and not just because he's a half breed charlatan.

 

How did you come up with that irrational summation? First of all, I don't hate anyone, including anti American-anti life leftists. Second, about 99% of my reason(s) for wanting obama out of office have to do with his marxist/socialist policies and not just because he's a half breed charlatan.

 

I largely agree with the bolded part, with the exception of Buddhism.

However, as usual, you have the blame the wrong way round.

These ideologies are inherently racially unfair (a better term than the vague "racist"). One of Islam's tenets is to spread itself via conquest or deception, then give "unbelievers" three options: bow down to Mo's hometown, pay a special tax, die. This ideology is practiced in the world today. It is a fact that Islam has been spread through aggressive wars. If anything is "racist" (meaning racially unfair) it is Islam, not opposition to Islam. As you say the ideology is very strongly tied to specific regions of the world. It is Arab fascism dressed up in religion, just the same as Nazism was German fascism. Does opposition to Nazism make you a "racist", or do "religions" get a special pass? Would Nazism be OK if they said "God told me to do it"?

Talmudic Judaism is perhaps worse. Based on endogamy ("almost impossible to seperate them from the primary races that share the beliefs"), and full of rules about when to cheat the "Goyim".

Opposing these "racist" ideologies is correct and good.

 

"Libertarianism is the enemy of all racism, because racism is a collectivist idea that you put people in categories. You say, well blacks belong here, and whites here, and women here and we don't see people in forms..or gays. You don't have rights because your gays, or women or minorities, you have rights because you’re an individual. So we see people strictly as individuals. We get these individuals in a natural way. So it's exactly opposite of all collectivism and it's absolutely anti-racism because we don't see it in those terms."

- Ron Paul on Bill Moyers Journal, January 4, 2008

http://www.dailypaul.com/195717/breaking-even-more-racially-charged-writings-by-ron-paul-uncovered

 

If you are saying its human behavior and that one should expect someone to treat the groups the same, even though intellectually the one assesing the group realizes they aren’t all the same, I agree, its nearly impossible to treat the groups equally. However, nearly impossible does not mean that its impossible to treat the groups equally or differently, nor is it ethical in my opinion. The ideal solution would be to check each incidence of so called racism and each individual that participated in the alleged racist action. Then and only then can one determine what was racist and what was something else such as bigotry or even aberrant psychotically behavior. However an individual assessment may be near impossible and severely impractical. That claim of impracticability is what law enforcement and other groups that generally favor racial and other types of profiling use to validate it.

Well, by asking if racism is justified, you are asking for a decision rendered primarily by subjective criteria. So I will give you a subjective answer ha ha~ just kidding!...Is it morally justified? No IMO it’s morally unjustified. Oh that ‘M’ word! As a practical measure avoiding a black or even inner city neighbor hoods its ‘correct‘ or practical.

Is someone racist for avoiding the black guy or the Martin Luther king blvd, sadly AKA deal st of nearly every large city. Again that depends! There is a difference between avoiding because the stats or because you hate someone or a group for race/color, In other words (sorry I am so redundant) if one feels that race alone makes him a criminal ie prone to thieve, murder or rape specifically 100% because of race not environmental factors that is being racist IMO. The reason I so fear racial profiling other than moral reasons is that our rights are prone to being violated when authority uses his subjective judgment and or profiling when deciding to shake down someone.

Real racism (which may never be 100% accurately defined) is never morally justified IMO. Its difficult situation eh? Thanks for asking my opinion, I am interested in your response. Maybe you could encapsulate my lonnng answers in a brief form? Economy of words has never been my strong forte.

reva

 

I think a great idea would be to have a poll before and after a debate has reached its awful too many 500 limit replies, just to determine if the debate changed anyones veiws. I will post this in the suggestion box....

reva

 

Yea, nice try.

As a general rule, every religion claims that it has the "way to paradise". Nothing special here, every single one. Catholicism, Baptist, LDS, Judaism, they all have the magic formula to get to heaven. That for one is why they are called "religions".

Now with few exceptions, many claim to be the only way to get to heaven. "Follow us, or you go to hell!". However, there are a few other exceptions.

Interestingly, both LDS and Islam believe that Jews will ascend to heaven as well as their own followers. This is because of their earlier covenant with God. Islam also believes Christians will go to heaven as well, because of their covenant with Jesus.

I would love for you to find me a religion where the individuals who practice it are not offered a kind of paradise in the end for their efforts.

"Oh, come worship with us! We are absolutely worthless, our meetings are in the mud behind my brother-in-law's pig pen. And when you die, you will spend eternity here in the mud as everybody else who worships that God thing goes and lives in mansions. But our god is cooler, he wears sunglasses!"

But once again, we have the failures of Intellectual Racism. "They are racists, so I am only hating them back!"

 

Oh, I am sure it will.

I generally stick to the Military and History forums, and stay far away from the conventional "Political" and "Current Affairs" threads. So I have actually met a lot of new (or re-met some rarely seen) racists since I made this.

 

That is nice, to bad it is far from truthfull. If anything, a large number of racists seem to follow the Libertarian beliefs because of the lack of a binding structure. It is almost like Anarchy, with just about any nutcase joining in. And a lot of the radical "survivalist/seperatist" types who are among the most radical of racists are also Libertarian because of their almost rabid distrust of the Government.

And reading a quote claiming that his political philosophy, then knowing what they believe, it does not add up at all. His newsletter has been from almost day 1 heavy in anti-semitic content. And full of such gems as:

‎”We don’t think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That’s true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such.”

“Immigrants can spread diseases for which we may have no immunity. There is also the question of crime and culture. Many immigrants come from countries with different legal structures and are not willing to behave in the way we expect American citizens to behave.”

“I wouldn’t vote against getting rid of the Jim Crow laws.”

“The Criminals who terrorize our cities – in riots and on every non-riot day – are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are.”

”Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal. These aren’t my figures, that is the assumption you can gather from” the report.”

“What else do we need to know about the political establishment than that it refuses to discuss the crimes that terrify Americans on grounds that doing so is racist? Why isn’t that true of complex embezzling, which is 100 percent white and Asian?”

Is it any wonder that Ron Paul and mikemikev have so much in common? However, neither one is fooling very many people. Because for all their smiling faces and claims of innocence, the truth normally ends up biting them in the butt.

Interestingly enough, I live in a pretty nice neighborhood. And every occupied house looks pretty nice, and even the unoccupied ones are in pretty good shape.

Then there is the ugly eyesore on the corner. Brown weed filled grass, bushes overrun and covers a lot of the cracked paint exterior. Wood fence rotted and falling apart, trash all over, piles of trash along the curb and filling the carport.

And until last week, a giant home made "Ron Paul For President" banner made from a bed sheet (I wonder if there is an additional significance in that?). The banner dissapeared a couple of weeks ago, but it is still the ugliest house in the neighborhood.

 

OK, you say, thinking racial disparities in crime are due to genetic differences is "racist". You understand there is no evidence that they aren't?

 

I don't see how what you wrote responds to anything I said. How does the existence of afterlives in religions contradict my point? It doesn't. Some religions are inherently racist. You even based your argument on the point that they are impossible to separate from race. I think the debate may be over here.

 

I think that someone assuming racial differences in crime is genetic is the definition of a racist.

 

It is only over because you either refuse or are unable to follow any kind of clear logical paths.

The only thing racist in the religions you mentioned is that you apparently hate them, therefore they must be racist. That is what your argument boils down to every single time.

Sorry, logical failure.

 

Aye more of the same?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6s-Fs4RnFY&feature=relmfu
Your degenerate leaders input to Iran via Saddam who at this time did as he was told as puppet of America!!
Oooh and did you notice Iran was banned at this time the use of chemical weapons! Unlike Rumsfelt and Cheney who sold the equipment and technology to make the sarin!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h04JAz1xBjM&feature=fvwrel

Regards
Highlander

 

No wonder the poll results considering the recent newspeak diminution of the term to mean little more than "anyone critical of the policies of His Holiness".

 

No. I explained why they are racist. Here, I can copy past it again if you have reading comprehension problems.

 

Even in your strange non-logic, if religions contain exclusion and by default racism, there is no alteration to the main fact, i.e. racism is unacceptable and this board is heaving with horrible racism.

 

How do you define racism?

 

If you make a statement which, if acted upon, would result in the reduction of another person's liberty, you need to present POSITIVE evidence for your position.

None exists for the idiotic racist position that black crime is genetic.

 

With an issue that could potentially result in the collapse of Western civilization, I think probabilities are good enough to go with.

And of course no evidence exists for the idiotic racist position that all races are equally pre-disposed to crime.

However, the consistent worldwide pattern is evidence to the contrary.

 

Sure some are hyper sensitive.

Of course some of the criticism about Obama actually is racist and is from racists who just can't stand the idea of a black man being President- thus the diminution of the term 'his holiness'

 

But the racists assume that it is genetic. Because that is what they must assume. They have a need to identify people based upon their race, or their religion or their origin- not based upon their own acts or behaviour.