Is the belief that homosexuality is sinful homophobic ?

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  1. bricklayer

    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Give me one example otherwise. He never once mentioned free will either
     
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    Phoebe Bump New Member

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    That's right. I don't recall where he ever uttered the words 'freedom' or 'liberty' or 'mutual volition'. You've read those things into his mouth. Not just you but the entire capito/religio complex.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not particularly familiar with bible? Don't buy any used cars from those who told your what's in there.
     
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    Roderick2013 Banned

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    It's all about making themselves feel that they are better than other people.

    Whether it's gay, black, Hispanic or females. Conservatives always have feel as if they are a couple of steps above someone to justify their existence.
     
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    You can be a celibate heterosexual or a celibate homosexual but it doesn't change your orientation.
     
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    Where you go wrong is claiming a sexual perversion as an "orientation".
     
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    Of all people you would call someone else a pervert. LOL
     
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    It's a phobia due to the reaction of some straight people have to gays but don't have the same revulsion for straight people 'sinning' and blaming gays for societies ills although gays are at most 10% of the population.
     
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    Awwwwwwww someone is playing the victim.

    Poor baby!!

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    People pick and chose which sins are important to them and those 'sins' are usually the sins they aren't committing.
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Who did I call a pervert?
     
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    When you don't have a rational argument against gay marriage it is homophobia.
     
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    True, but some of his followers not so much.
     
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    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    The simple answer is No. That said laws should not be based on religion but on equality and justice under the law, meaning equal rights for all under the law.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you know a heterosexual who is without sexual sin, not even lust (which Jesus equated with adultry)
    who is also willing to condemn a homosexual ?
    The rest of us heterosexuals should just sit this one out because
    "at whatever point you judge others, you also stand already condemned". ring a bell?
     
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    It's a belief started by ancient homophobes and propagated by modern homophobes as well as religious zealots, who may or may not be one and the same.

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    The Abrahamic faiths make a big emotional mess out of one of humanity's most basic natural urges and biological functions.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, your answer to the OP is YES? The belief that homsexuality is sinful is homophobic, correct? Fair enough.
    What is your opinion of the belief in sin in general?
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Sin is a religious label for perceived personal failings according to an arbitrary standard.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, if the belief that homosexuality is a sin is homophobic, what do you call the phobia that leaves one to believe that pedophilia sinful?
     
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    Pedophobic? :lol:

    I just don't think the reasons for opposing and condemning homosexuality and pedophelia are the same.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whoa !!! I am NOT writing about "opposing" or "condemning" homsexuality. I'm writing about the belief that it is a sin.
     
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    I do have a rational argument. Two men together is not meant to be based on the biology. If it were so two men or two women would be able to produce offspring naturally. They can't. It is abnormal. There you go. Very rational.
     
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    LOL.

    The old procreation argument again.

    Maybe you missed it but heterosexuals have recreational sex and that's what led to the Pill almost sixty years ago.

    Do try to keep up.
     
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    I did not use the old recreational sex argument I used the gay sex does not result in offspring argument thus it is abnormal.
     
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    There are heterosexuals who enter marriage with no plans to procreate. Men marry women who have gone through menopause. There are heterosexual marriages where there are no offspring due to fertility issues. Finally there are those couples who use birth control to determine when they will procreate and how many children they will have.

    BTW two people don't have to be married to procreate.

    So your procreation argument against gay marriage is still myopic and invalid.
     
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    Two guys having sex can never ever produce children. It is abnormal.
     

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