Is the Holy Bible the timeline for mankind's existence?

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Is the Holy Bible the timeline for mankind's existence?

  1. Yes, I believe it is.

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  2. No, It's not mankind's timeline

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  3. I don't believe a word of it. it's a fairytale book

    38 vote(s)
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  4. It could be. who knows? who really cares? Let's party!!

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  1. lynx

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    I don't even know what exactly "flat circle" mean....the scripture only describe the circle of earth, where did the "flat" coming from? You are just adding your own meaning into the scripture to twist it. Thing is that it is very good enough that Bible describe the earth is round shape, a circle when the people in that period had absolutely no idea the earth can be round.


    I have different understanding of the story of the Tower of Babel now, for them to reach that high, into the heaven, that God had to intervene, I think they were trying to build a launch pad reaching into the heaven, or even attempt to build space shuttles that blast off, cruise the solar system (heaven/space), with the help from aliens/fallen angels or the humanolds. This is just my guess. Why would God care about tall buildings?What's so threatening about it? we have many today, unless it is not really tall buildings.
     
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    Ah, I get ya.

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  3. Alif Qadr

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    The Earthis a fixed surface and the sky is a dome or canopy. Have you learned nothing from Earth Science class? There are actually six levels of the "Dome of the Earth: the troposphere, stratosphere, mesosphere, ionosphere, thermosphere and exosphere. Do you have any other statements that are in opposition to what prophet Musa and the other taught? If you look at the Earth, it is "stretched out" as The Holy Qur'an Sharrief states. Of course the planet is a large sphere but when on its surface, it looks stretched out and it is also fixed and immovable by your hands. How many wars are taking place right now on the Earth and how many of them do you hear or feel the explosions from? The answer to this question is an obvious N-O-N-E! Why do you not hear, see nor feel the actions of these wars that your government is initiating? It is because the Earth is a vast expanse as well as it being stretched out, as far as your five sense are concerned.
     
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    Do you actually comprehend what this is talking about? What is the circle of the Earth and why are the inhabitants of this planet described as grasshoppers? The cirlce of the Earth is the Twenty-four Elders and the people are described as grasshoppers as because as grasshoppers, they can be a destructive force bent on feeding off of the sustinence of others, i.e., pests. Why do you think that your government is always in pursuit of war? It is to steal "the crops" or sustinence of other nations to feed your insatiable appetite(s).
     
  5. 4Horsemen

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    This is complete nonsense. the "circle" is literal. For what is a circle of not round?

    You mis-interpreted the scriptures.

    And you are talking about the incident Yeshua had with Satan, and was shown all the greatness of the earth he would grant him he would bow down and worship him. but Yeshua refused.

    If you think about it, Satan most likely took Yeshua up in a spaceship to see everything.


    "5.And Satan took him up to a high mountain, and he showed him all the Kingdoms of the earth in a short time. 6And The Devil said to him, “I shall give you all this dominion and its glory, for it is delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I want.” 7“If therefore you will worship before me, it will all be yours.” 8Yeshua answered and said to him, “It is written: 'you shall worship THE LORD JEHOVAH your God, and him only you shall serve.' “


    http://aramaic-plain-english.scripturetext.com/luke/4.htm
     
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  6. Questerr

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    Round and flat are not mutually exclusive.

    A circle is by definition flat. It's a 2 Dimensional flat shape.

    The Earth is not a circle. It is a sphere or ball. The Bible specifically does not use the Hebrew word for sphere. The Bible is lying and painting the false image of a flat eath.

    Here, maybe this visual aid will help:

    Circle:
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    Sphere:
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    Do you see how one is flat and the other 3-D?

    Map are 2-D representations of the world. They are not the world itself.

    Massive logic fail.
     
  7. Questerr

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    Since the Earth is not a circle, then I assume that you agree that the Bible is wrong.
     
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    Sphere = Cirlce, Circle = Sphere.

    Given the time they were in, they were as accurate as could be humanly accomplished. When you undestand this, you understand the Bible.


    Class dismissed.
     
  9. Questerr

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    Circles are BY DEFINITION flat. They are two dimensional shapes. Even the Hebrews understand that, which is why they had seperate words for "circle" and for "ball or sphere". The Bible uses the 1st word, meaning that the Earth is flat.

    So you agree that the Bible only contains knowledge that people at its time either already knew or could guess? Definitely reinforces that the Bible was written by men, not God.

    Right...Bronze Age cultures that didn't even have indoor plumbing were trying to build space shuttles...and left no evidence behind of this advanced technology...

    Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound? These apologetics are insane even for Christian standards.
     
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    A sphere is not a circle. You are 100% false. Even the ancient Hebrews 4,000 years ago knew that better than you which is why they had two seperate words.

    Next time you go to play a ball game, why don't you try to find a "circle" to throw? It would probably look like this:

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    Does that look like a sphere to you?
     
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    Round and flat are not mutually exclusive.

    A circle (what the Bible says the Earth is) is a round and flat shape.

    A sphere (what the Earth actually is) is a round 3-D shape.

    And you lie to protect them even when they are false.

    Really? A spaceship? Where deoes the Bible say anything about a spaceship?
     
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    Questarr, you need a carsh course in physics again....BAD...

    listen, when you "look" at a sphere, what do you see? that's right a CIRCLE. you don't see a square or a trapazoid or a hexagram do you? NO...you see a CIRCLE.

    Now as you move around that CIRCLE you realize that the corners are rounding off creating a sphere. and if you keep going forever and ever you will continuely travel in a sphere or a CIRCLE.

    A Ball is a sphere, but a ball is also a CIRCLE.


    Try as you may you cannot debunk the Holy Bible...lol..
     
  13. Questerr

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    That false again. Our eyes see DEPTH. We can tell the difference between a flat circle and a 3-D sphere. That is especially the case when it comes to the Earth considering that the Earth rotates.

    Keep trying your apologetics though. This is getting funny.
     
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    Your highschool Physics teacher should be tracked down, fired, arrested and thrown in jail. She did you a gross dis-service in education.


    the only lies here is YOU tryig to convince clear thinking people that a circle is not a sphere...lol...comedy.


    Yes really, a spaceship. your local archeologist can vouch for all the discoveries they've found in the heiroglyphics showing spaceships carved into the stone writings.

    That hack Barack Obama just came out with disclosure of the UFO's.

    Area 51, Roswell, eyewitness sightings, Biblical proof, etc...

    And you're still in denial of UFO's?
     
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    Your pastor/priest should be thrown in jail for warping your world view and harming your mind.

    A circle isn't a sphere. I've posted evidence to that fact.

    So now the Bible involves aliens? When were they created in Genesis?
     
  16. FreshAir

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    if it's a beginning to end timeline, time for a bible update, add a new chapter for some recent history events
     
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    They're already there. Read Revelations
     
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    ...I mean recent history, no where to be found in the bible, a real history book includes real history, where is the current history?

    personally I think the bible is a book of myth with a bit of real history thrown in, it does though give us a look into the minds of some people during biblical times and the way their thought processes worked


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    The one that talks about a star falling into the oceans?

    The smallest star is thousands of times bigger than the combined oceans of the Earth. That's already insanely well debunked.
     
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    Indeed it does....Witches are Satanic and GOD tells us to deal with them Severely.

    Deuteronomy 18:10-12
    "There shall not be found among you any one ... that useth divination,
    or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, or a charmer,
    or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
    For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord..."

    Exodus 22:18
    "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."

    1 Samuel 15:23
    "For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft..."
     
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    Says who? YOU? or some quack scientist that's never seen a star up close to guage it's size???

    haahaha...don't make me laugh. because I will...
     
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    there is no history there, no timeline, that is just making rules for people to follow, nothing about the history of people that followed those rules


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    It was written hundreds of years ago, it's blatant in your face history sir.
     
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    Those that followed withccraft ended up like the people at the Salem witch trials. get a clue. witchcraft is an evil practice.
     
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    that was just how one religion tried to kill off the competing religions a long long time ago

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