Is today the day we find out if hard working truckers have to pay the tuitions of blue haired brats?

Thereby handing more votes to democrats. Let’s face it - the common profile for republicans is white retired male - women - well the court brought down the Dobbs decision and the men on the right might still be advocating fir total abortion bans burnt the women are definitely noting the rising maternal mortality and morbidity and worrying abound themselves and loved ones, then there is the diversity issue - how many who are not WASP (white Anglo Saxon Protestant) are happy with that not to mention allowing discrimination on the basis of “free speech”. And all those people struggling with student debt - will THEY vote for the GOP?

 

They think someone else should pay for whatever they WANT.

 

I couldn’t care less about votes. Rule of law isn’t about votes. I can’t speak for Republicans as I have no affiliation and no concern for whether or not this helps or hurts their party. But you have to remember there are a lot of people who will be encouraged to vote Republican because of their success in appointing Justices who follow the Constitution. Not everyone believes in blowing up rule of law to get what they want.

 

We have community collage which are cheap. Many American do go to community collage. But state Universities are more expansive. Privet Universities are even more expansive.

MATC ( community collage) $3200 per year, UW Madison $10,700 for Wisconsin resident ( US Citizen), for out of state and foreign student $39000. Tuition fees. Someone from Florida, if she wants to go to UW Madison, it will cost her 39k per year, just the tuition.

We have problem with cost of education. That itself a problem. but bigger problem with conservative who thinks if you can’t “afford” to go to collage, don’t go, Go to community collage or became a plumber. Nothing wrong with became a plumber, but if we truly want to Make America Great in 21st century, we need to invest in our future. China, India and Europe, they are investing billions and billions in education. My wife is Estonian and she did her undergrad and grad school from University of Helsinki and Estonian government paid 100% of her tuition. My wife left Europe , moved to US, went to University in USA and became US citizen. In a way Estonian government lost all the money they invested on my wife. But that doesn’t mean Estonian government stopped investing in their citizen. Not every investment has a refund. This is the part American conservative don’t understand. They think if we invest $5 we better get $5 back , if not let’s throw the baby out with bathwater. Not every collage student will be successful in life, not every collage student will contribute to society, but that doesn’t mean we stop investing. They chant all day “ Make America Great” but they have no interest building the community. Their moto is “survival of the fittest” , a mentality which belongs in 17th century.

 

So only student go to top university are those who can afford finance or straight A students. Everyone else , community collage or plumbing.

It’s like what SCOTUS said this week – if your parents went to Harvard or your parents can donate $$$, you are entitled to go to Harvard, but if you are a black kid from Harlem, and your mom is a maid, who worked three jobs to put you through HS, you don’t get special treatment here, you stand in line just like everyone else.

 

It would be safe to assume around 5o%. Look at the Democrats. They brag they have a monopoly on those with University degrees. If you aren't a Marxist and you are University educated, you dodged a bullet!

 

You’re basing your claim of 50% based on feelings as you have no factual data that can back up your claim ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Yeah, you are probably right. I would trust my feelings by what I see a lot further than what a university educated poll taker could tell me.

 

Biden promised that working men and women would take on their responsibility and he couldn't deliver. I would guess they just won't vote.

 

Yes. Top schools should only take top students. WOW. Shocker!!! And if you’re not a top student but can pay your way in, it’s up to the college to decide how badly they want that money. No one is entitled to go. Only the best deserve to go. But if a private institution wants money than they will take that money. I do t think it’s fair if a dumb rich kid goes to Harvard. Think it’s a waste. But such is life.

You don’t DESERVE the top most expensive schools just because you want to go. GROW UP!! If you’re poor and average, YES, you are less entitled than an average rich kid. That’s life kiddo. Get used to it. We already know what happens when they let in unqualified students. Dropout!!! And if you’re poor and smart that's what scholarships are for.

If you can’t throw a ball, you don’t get to play QB for the KC Chiefs. Sorry if that’s a tough concept. What’s next? You start complaining that ANYONE should be able to live in a mansion and own a yacht

 

A job interview with a gender studies graduate.

Interviewer: Do you know how to do anything useful?
Candidate: Here's my degree, where's my job?
Interviewer: Do you have any experience?
Candidate: Here's my degree, where's my job?
Interviewer: We'll call you.
Candidate: DISCRIMINATION!!!! STARBUCKS DOESN'T OFFER HEALTH INSURANCE OR VACATION TIME!!!! I'M ENTITLED TO BOTH, AND THE WORK PART OF THE JOB SHOULD BE OPTIONAL!!!

 

That's not exactly true. There are 100X more scholarships for women and minorities than for white male. If you are a minority who has great grades, you can go. You can't be a C student but niether can a white male.

 

It was even that way in the 80s, if not, this movie would NEVER have been made

 

In other words your biased emotional feelings. That sounds about right for some as over emotional as yourself.

 

Are all your threads flame bait?
By the way, my college friend, who got an MA at university using loans, went on to become a cross country truck driver because he loved the freedom of the road, so your jibe is prejudiced as well.

 

Yes they are. Usually anti-woke screeds.

 

Kagan shreds the majority on the debt forgiveness case.

In the dissenting opinion, Justice Elena Kagan rejected Chief Justice Roberts’s interpretation of the text of the law. She accused the majority of abandoning the usual conservative ideology of textualism, or interpreting statutes in ways that hew to the words themselves.

Justice Elena Kagan

"For years, this Court has insisted that the way to keep judges’ policy views and preferences out of judicial decision making is to hew to a statute’s text. The HEROES Act’s text settles the legality of the Secretary’s loan forgiveness plan. The statute provides the Secretary with broad authority to give emergency relief to student-loan borrowers, including by altering usual discharge rules. What the Secretary did fits comfortably within that delegation. But the Court forbids him to proceed.

The opinion ends by applying the Court’s made-up major-questions doctrine to jettison the Secretary’s loan forgiveness plan. Small wonder the majority invokes the doctrine. The majority’s “normal” statutory interpretation cannot sustain its decision. The statute, read as written, gives the Secretary broad authority to relieve a national emergency’s effect on borrowers’ ability to repay their student loans. The Secretary did no more than use that lawfully delegated authority. So the majority applies a rule specially crafted to kill significant regulatory action, by requiring Congress to delegate not just clearly but also microspecifically."
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/30/...eness-opinions-dissent-scotus-highlights.html

It's one thing for Repubs to be pleased to see Biden's policy be reversed because....................Biden. Pretending there is legal justification for it is another thing.

 

The Student Loan Case’s Unwilling Participant

Internal documents from the company at the heart of the Supreme Court case on student debt cancellation reinforce that it did not file, did not solicit, and indeed had nothing to do with the case at all.

The documents are internal emails from the Missouri Higher Education Loan Authority (MOHELA), a student loan servicer that conducts day-to-day operations on federal student loans. Its role in the student debt case is central: The state of Missouri, one of the plaintiffs, is claiming that MOHELA will lose revenue as a result of debt cancellation, and therefore would be unable to repay money into a Missouri state fund that funds in-state schools.

That claim has been called into question. In Supreme Court oral arguments, it was revealed that MOHELA hasn’t made a contribution to that fund in 15 years; MOHELA has also said in its own financial documents that it doesn’t plan to make any payments in the future. Furthermore, an analysis from the Roosevelt Institute and the Debt Collective shows that MOHELA stands to gain revenue if debt cancellation goes forward, because it received additional servicing rights and its liability on certain accounts would be extinguished.
https://prospect.org/justice/2023-06-19-student-loan-cancellation-supreme-court-mohela/

Then who is the harmed party with grounds to sue if not MOHELA? The taxpayer? Sorry, law prevents taxpayers from suing the government in such matters as disagreeing with the way tax money is spent for obvious reasons. The state of MO has no standing to sue. Add to that the Heroes Act without question gives the government the statutory power to forgive the debt and we have yet another ruling by the Roberts court flying in the face of law.

 

You asked -- Well I attended some college, dropped out. But I paid every penny of my own tuition by holding down a full time job, plus as a veteran I never even asked the VA to pay for me. I hope you like my answer.

My son went to truck driving school -- cashed in an insurance policy to pay his tuition. Didn't ask the government/citizens to pay his tuition. You seem to think all truckers will be replaced in 10 years. Please explain what will replace them.

 

Automation is going to replace them. Just like it’s going to replace most of us.

 

Call it intuition...... not like a sheep going to the slaughter.

 

Conservatism belong in 17th century when people with power, means survived and weak and poor were left out. In 21st century civilized world there is no room for conservative ideas. They belong in museum.

Off course, smart kids regardless their financial situation belong in top university. But an average kid with money belong in top university and the answer is “That’s life get used to it”. That’s the conservative idea which doesn’t belong in 21st century.

If the civilized society and the “ rule of law or the constitution ” can’t make it same playing filed for “Average rich kid” and “ an average poor kid”, maybe we don’t need that kind of society. It’s time to break down the society and re-build it.

 

And you think average C student in top University don’t contribute to society like other smart kids with top grades?

 

Lol...no monopoly. Cons are free to pursue higher education but they tend to be anti-intellectual and anti-science, so they don't have what it takes to succeed there.
Maybe we should extend affirmative action to them to encourage diversity on university campuses, eh?

 

What you need is diversity among so=called educators instead of "actual indoctrinators"! Those with diversity of thought are canceled.