Is World Terrorist Vladimir Pootin the modern Adolph Hitler?

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  1. Curious Always

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    Can you clarify? You say he's no Hitler and immediately point out characteristics he has in common with Hitler.

    Putin is a completely undemocratic authoritarian propagandist and liar, but the man is no fool imo. Are you suggesting Hitler was a fool?
     
  2. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So Putin announced that he had clearance from his cabinet for the actions. Hmmm. Who does he think he's fooling? I'm not going to pretend Putin's cabinet has any authority whatsoever.
     
  3. Chuck711

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    Ukraine destroyed its Vast nuclear stockpile 30 years ago with the understanding other countries would step in to help if need arises
     
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    Which active oil production and natural gas did President Biden shut down ?
     
  5. Toggle Almendro

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    They may try to reverse that decision.


    The Keystone XL pipeline.
     
  6. AmericanNationalist

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    The problem for the French weren't so much their spine, as much as it was outdated material and strategies from WWI, and Ardennes which was thought to be impenetrable was in fact penetrated by the Nazis. What French was to the allies, Italy was to the Axis. Unprepared for modern times of warfare.
     
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    Epic post, nothing more to say then that's common sense in a world commonly devoid of it.
     
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    Having something in common with Hitler doesn't make another state leader the "new Hitler" imo.
    Putin doesn't have the Weltanschauung that Hitler and the Nazis had, and I don't think he intends to gas a couple of millions or commit a genocide of unprecedented scale either. His ideological frame is not like Hitler's, and despite being an authoritarian undemocratic country, Russia is still not as totalitarian as the Nazi-Reich. His bizarre speech yesterday revealed an absurdly constructed tie to the Russian Empire under the tzars combined with some late Soviet Union bits and pieces on top. He's an aggressor, has broken international law, doesn't recognise other countries' sovereignty, and seems to be desparate to go to war. Many of those things are true for GW Bush and we wouldn't call him the new Hitler. I for one find this Hitler comparison rather meaningless; Saddam Hussein wasn't, and Putin isn't the new Hitler.
     
  9. Joe knows

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    Tell that to the maquis… they never gave up and god bless them. The rest of the French I can’t say much. I would rather die free than what they done
     
  10. AmericanNationalist

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    Mussolini had the Grand Council in Italy, which yes kowtowed to his wishes, but up until the final moments when the war fortunes turned on Italy then the Grand Council(as well as the King) made the decision to go the allies and ousted Mussolini. So never say never with these authoritarian structures.
     
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    No. Putin is a greedy amoral oligarch but he has yet to categorically and systematically annihilate a race, ethnicity or religion. Very very few in our history, no matter how power hungry, are as utterly depraved as Hitler was.
     
  12. Chuck711

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    You made it sound as if President Biden shut down Dozens of oil and gas projects.

    The XL pipeline shipped the majority of its dirty oil sands oil overseas which would do nothing to help Americas oil independence

    Just keeping the Facts ...............
     
  13. pitbull

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    I pray to God that you're right. But that doesn't prevent Comrade Pootin from setting the whole world on fire. He doesn't need Jews as enemies of all mankind. His enemy is the free western world which he wants to destroy. :(
     
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    As I recently heard: Ukraine's got many weapons from Canada and the UK. Many Ukrainian civilians are military-trained and willing to fight for their country. Pootin might win, but it would be very hard for him.

    I don't think Ukraine's ruled by a corrupt elite, but Russia is led by gangsters for sure since Pootin is their leader. :(
     
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    Selling oil overseas still helps prices in the US.

    Adding to overseas sales helps to reduce the price of oil worldwide. Reducing the price of oil worldwide, reduces the price of oil in the US.
     
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    I think you may have been responding to Russian spam. I notice on a few sites very pro Russian scripts with "German" names.
     
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    You may be. Trump cultees were and are ok with Trump calling Putin a genius and licking his boots 's and that fat boy in North Korea and Erdogan's petunias. Hey you maybe think Kanye West (Ye) is a genius too....

    Point is what you are ok with is not the issue. Its whether the world and other ordinary Joes are ok with unstable people having their finger on nuke buttons.

    Is it Joe as in Stalin or GI Joe or Smokin Joe or Joltin Joe?
     
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    See, I think when people say Hitler, they are comparing a type of person. Egomaniacal narcissist who dreams of world domination. If Putin takes Ukraine, it's only a matter of time until he pushes on to Poland. We can't let this guy loose, to prevent a Hitler like takeover. (Even if there's no gassing of Jews; not the point.)

    Like frog legs; tastes like chicken. NO, they are NOT chicken. No, they aren't, but they have similar characteristics.
     
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    Ukraine is not sovereign if it allows the US and NATO to dictate what it does.

    The Imperial Roman Catholic Church killed 100x more people than Hitler did.

    And the US lies all the time so it's hypocritical to accuse Putin of what the US does.
     
  20. Death

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    Yes I agree with you. I think most us know he has similarities to BOTH Joseph Stalin and Adolph Hitler and even Trump but most of us know its common characteristics or personality traits but not identical ones and like you say for example I can see a parallel between Putin invading Ukraine the way Hitler invaded Sudetenland but it is not quite the same, Like you said we are describing an ego maniacal narcissist and what some would also phrase as "malignant narcissist".

    Here is an interesting psychological note to what you said and I have read it in a few articles about him. On the one hand he poses as a stronger than life powerful man who crushes Ukraine and anyone who gets in his way. He carefully constructs an image of a brutal strong man. Yet in every meeting in the last two years he insists people sit at least 30 feet from him because apparently he is a germaphobe obsessed with catching Covid 19. He actually makes people who meet him take tests and and give blood samples and take certain medication.

    So the question is what kind of stable person does that? Is he paranoid thinking someone is trying to poison him as he has done others or is it a type of hypochondria based paranoia or is it just paranoia.?

    What I found disturbing is the French President basically reported back he spent 5 hours in a diatribe about past Russian history. So his here and now awareness, his actual connection to the present tense and his ability to assess current risk, all come into question whether they are being done based on a rational analysis of the here and now situation or are being distorted though some kind of narcissistic perception where he feels out of control and is lashing out to try control that which he thinks is beyond his control.

    The French President said he saw a totally different personality then when he last met him. Those in person meetings are very important. One of the reasons the French President went and stayed so long is to sit and observe and then report back to his experts on psychology as to certain things he observed. Its not as good as the psychologists being right in the room but its still better than speculating at a distance and it will help build a more up to date psychological profile on him. You bet Marcon would have been debrief by behaviour experts.

    Today forensic psychology knows a lot more than we used to during WW2 in terms of analyzing the behaviour of political leaders. WW2 was the first time such profiles were done and the profile done by the US psychologist from Harvard on Hitler proved remarkably accurate. When they analyze Putin from feedback there are many things they can analyze. I was trained to observe some of them in my work but believe me I am no expert. Things like repeat patterns of physical body behaviour, can tell certain things. Subtle things like the colour of a person's finger nails, their skin complexion and texture, eve movement all can show things. I do not doubt Marcon was asked to measure trigger points that would set him off, and length of time between certain behaviours and frequency of the those reactions. They probably have Marcon what we call cue words-words designed to see what themes or thoughts Putin is provoked by.

    Something has triggered Putin and no its not Ukraine. Its never that simple. It could have been something internal. It could have been anger at losing Trump as his controlled puppet in the US and his trying to compensate for that loss.

    However it could be many things. For all we know someone may have tried to poison him inside the Kremlin. He certainly shows a range of inconsistent behaviour as to who is allowed to sit near him or at what distance. Some think he is a germaphobe afraid of Covid 19. Might be but he allows different people to sit closer than others which might indicate its not Covid he is afraid of but being poisoned.

    I think Putin is suspected to have some sort of mental illness. What it is-may be hard to diagnose but you can be sure people are working on it to see what is different now then say two years ago in his behaviour.
     
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  21. pitbull

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    Only in your wet dreams. :(
    Ukraine is not a NATO member but will soon attend the EU.
     
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    Much of America agrees with you.

    He's a bumbling idiot without a brain. Biden not trusted on secret Iran deal: Poll.
    America gets it.
     
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    America gets it?

    If you think alienating NATO and acting as a sock puppet to Putin was and is preferable say so.You are not "America" and are not much of America. You are in a cult. That cult is shrinking daily. Hang in there though. Donny will ask you to drink koolaid soon enough.

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    YES!
     
  25. Hey Now

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    The criminal lobbyists feeding Washington and the real Nazis are Putin's 'earners'. The Russian oligarchs.
     

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