Is Zimmerman Guilty?

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Is Zimmerman Guilty?

  1. No. Although he issued poor judgement, he is not guilty of the charges against him.

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    46.2%
  2. Yes. His actions were unwarrented, he IS guilty.

    26 vote(s)
    40.0%
  3. IDK. I don't know or Maybe?

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    13.8%
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  1. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    There is a saying that 'dead men tell no tales' and that should not allow Zimmerman to avoid guilt.

    Zimmerman is guilty of something here, the jury has to find out what it is.
     
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    That's exactly what this has been, a Witch Hunt!
     
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    JohnnyMo Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    An unarmed 17 year old was shot and killed and you view this matter as a witch hunt?? That's an interesting view my friend.

    Unless the George is freed, as a result of his affirmative defense hearing, this one will be decided by a jury of his peers.
     
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    John, the guy was attacked, he has a witness. He shot the attacker and the State has shown [so far] they have nothing on this guy. I call it a Witch hunt because they made it a media circus about race. The guy was only arrested because they came up with this girl, had the guy he shot been white none of this would have even started.

    What proof do they have that's a fact John? what? Anything they have they have to make up a story to match their ''evidence''. So, if they have nothing now then what did they have when they started? The prosecutor had to do something, she had to satisfy the race baiters. Now she is stuck, and a much lower charge will be offered,,they got squat on this guy.
     
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    George is not guilty:

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    Game over....
     
  9. doombug

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    Witnesses back up George's account of what happened:

    [video=youtube_share;Ecn31v71aEs]http://youtu.be/Ecn31v71aEs[/video]
     
  10. JohnnyMo

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    Where is the cold hard proof the George was attacked?? If we knew this to be absolute George would not be out on a mil in bail facing trial.

    I don't agree with your view this is about race baiters any more than I believe that this was motivated by race. This case will be decided by experts, the credibility of George and other factors. . This is what the jury will rely on. I have a hard time understand how so many here see this as such an open and shut case. In my view, it;s anything but that.
     
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    I do not believe you are understanding the situation,,he does NOT HAVE YO PROVE IT, they have to prove he was not attacked,,follow?

    Again, the State has to prove he is lying and as I have said time and time again,,where is this proof? where are these other factors? Dont you see they do not have any? If what we have seen is all they have then they have no facts. The Jury will use the facts they have,,Zimmerman has the injuries, Travon does not. The witness has Travon on top and Zimmermon on the bottom. How John, how do they get around that,,these are the facts.

    So if what you are telling me is ''I have no idea flounder but they ''might'' find something'' then John that is no kind of case at all my friend, it's a witch hunt, they are looking for something, anything, to try and justify their case. John, you have to give me something, some reason connected to a fact that makes you believe this. Not guesses.

    Because John, if you truly understand the burden is on them then you will understand why people are saying that. They like me are asking...
    ''What proof do these people have that contradicts his story with FACTS,,We want to see their FACTS..
    If they do not have any, it's pretty much over. It's an extremely weak case, cant you see that?

    If you tell me ''No they have facts'', then please share them with us. Please however, no made up stories just facts that prove it did not happen that way.
     
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    I leave you with this.

    George's story's contradict themselves. BTW, I'm not the one here claiming to know all of the facts. I don't.

    Enjoy the discussion. I'll wait for the trial.
     
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    It seems that NONE of the Trayvonistas have the intelligence to understand that the onus of the proof is on the prosecution.

    I can see NO chance that in this highly racialised debate that the prosecution will get a unanimous vote on the jury. They just can't win.
     
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    I'll leave you with this,,,,according to them there are contradictions, just like some here have posted. People here have batted down these contradictions, and they are not even attorneys.
    If this is all they have,,it's Ova.
     
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    Angela Corey's only goal is to make sure that the trial goes ahead. I think she knows that she can't win. She is looking for re election but she may well find that the majority population of the county are disgusted with her.

    Ideally Zimmerman would run against her and win.
     
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    Thank you for allowing one of your Martin haters to call all of the members who disagree with his (and your ) stand unintelligent.

    I guess it is fine to call member stupid when they don't agree with you?

    Yes, I agree with Johnnymo, I'll leave you here, and will wait for the trial.

    A last thought though. I believe that ALL of you KNOW that Zimmerman was not afraid for his life, and that he had Several opportunities to de escalate the situation. But you all prefer to see a man who used unnecessary deadly force against an unarmed teenager go totally free than to see your dear gun laws and SYG laws revised so that teenagers no longer need to die for a suspicion and a "maybe" hit on the nose.

    And you may have it your way! It is obvious that the social media propaganda is working, and that Zimmerman may continue to be a hero to all the gun addicts.

    And still he will be guilty of the killing of that teenager. And still, even if he gets off with nothing, he will pay, one way or another. And I think, in some way all of those who have negated the fact that that killing was NOT necessary, will some day, somehow, regret their blind acceptance and their defense of this kind of senseless killing.

    Now, the next step will be the SYG hearing.
     
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    You have been "leaving this" to wait for the trial for days now...HAHAHA!

    I am sure Trayvon supporters are waiting for the unfair trial George will get. If Judge Neslon has any courage and integrity she will grant immunity. I doubt that she will be willing to stand up to the corrupt political forces at play though.
     
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    You clear;ly aren;t leaving this for trial sad annie. You are constantly commenting.
     
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    The religiously devout liberals want to crucify Zimmerman because Zimmerman killed someone that looks like the son of their messiah, King Obama, Fascist and Traitor.
     
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    Well, real trials are performed to determine the truth. A real trial is out of place in the Zimmerman case, because people who voted for Obama are the people in the world least likely to ever have an interest in the truth. Their master has told them what to believe, so they believe it. That's all. Many of them can now name all 57 states, too.
     
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    yes and no. Based in what I learned when I took my ccl class here is what i think

    To me he was right to shoot as he felt his life was in danger however he followed treyvon with his gun drawn making him somewhat of an aggressor and he should not have done that especially when the police told him not to. So he is guilty

    If I were on the jury I would not convict him of murder but some degree of manslaughter I dont know the specific degrees and punishment that comes with them.
     
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    I hate to tell you this but there is zero proof George followed Trayvon "with his gun drawn". It didn't happen.
     
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    Exactly where do you get this idea Zimmerman followed Martin with a gun drawn?

    Are you claiming that the Police gave Zimmerman a lawfulll order that he disobeyed? Please prove that i) The police ii) Issued a lawfull order and iii) Zimmerman disobeyed it.
     
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    This is the thing, if people would just go by the facts and not have some agenda to hang this guy they would realize how little they have. Which amounts to nothing as far as I have seen. They have plenty of ''ifs'' and ''could be's'' but little else. With all of this ''forensic'' evidence it's the same thing. They use it in the worst way possible to hang the guy but ignore all the other possible reasons that it could be.
    That's not fact or science,,that's agenda speaking.
     
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