Islam & Christianity the same tradition ?

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  1. Moshty

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    Nonsense. The Koran itself is a miracle. Then there's Moses..
     
  2. Moshty

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    It was when the idea of crusades appeared that it at the latest stopped being spread by "the word". Islam was just a big excuse for all the mess they made.
     
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    The so called Christians that do not believe Jesus is God don't believe Scripture. The first chapter of the book of Revelation clearly states Jesus is God, the First and the Last, the Alpha and Omega.
     
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    It's no miracle. A human writer collective created the Quran. Editor in chief was Uthman ibn Affan, 3rd caliph of the Muslims, also a normal human being.
     
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    You referring to the same god responsible for mass genocide and ordering a man to kill his son??
     
  6. Moshty

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    Jews never recognized him as a prophet.
     
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    It was recited by Muhammad. After he died the people were asked to bring the verses they had written down. Then they chose those most reliable who knew the Qur'an by heart the best and constructed the actual book. So the words were written by other people and again copied by other people, but the words were the ones recited by Muhammad. After all was done the verses written that didn't match what they concluded to be the correct version of the recitation were destroyed.
     
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    Maybe the person who wrote it isn't necessarily right.
     
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    Not genocide, but judgement. God was showing Abraham what God would do himself, sacrifice his own son. God stopped Abraham and provided a lamb for sacrifice. Jesus is the Lamb of God. You twisted and tortured Scripture. Shame on you.
     
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    You mean like you did?? LOL at the hypocrisy

    All religions are efforts to lead sheep. And your ignorance of Islam is not unexpected
     
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    And who wrote that piece of fiction?

    (Hint - it wasn't god)
     
  12. Moshty

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    What you're doing is inventing interpretation because it supports the theory of Jesus being the son of God.
     
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    So exactly the same as the bible and torah?

    Got it
     
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    Real Christian's believe the Apostle John was right, that's why they included the Book of Revelation, his three letters and his Gospel in the Bible.
     
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    Real Christians?

    That like real aryans?
     
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    I'm providing Scripture. The Scripture is very explicit in the first chapter of Revelation that Jesus is God. The Scriptures clearly state that God is three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
    https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/bible-verses-about-the-trinity/
     
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    What was Islam's excuse?
     
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    Scripture is human and therefore flawed
     
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    Umm, they were attacked??

    History professor, huh?
     
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    Nope, Jews. Jesus, the Apostles, and the beginning of the Church were all Jews. You're confused.
     
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    Says you. Christians believe Scripture is inspired by the Holy Spirit.
     
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    They also believe the planet was created in six days, so not coming from a position of much credibility
     
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    The Bible says a day is like a thousand years in God's kingdom. You're understanding with your mind, not your spirit. God is a Spirit. Human and worldly knowledge can't understand God.
     
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    Got it. An excuse for everything. Sheep love to be led
     

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