Islam has no case

And I know all that already... That is common knowledge.

The divinity of Jesus was presented by the early Catholic. Both the Cathar and the Aryan rejected that notion and they were slaughtered for that.

That being said there are incompatibility with Islam and both the OT and NT.

For one, Mohamed was "inspired" after both the OT and NT was written. It was easy for him, well not really him since he was illiterate, to create a document that could be used to control the masses just like the Catholics did with the Bible.

First of, he had to discredit the jews. He does that by pretending that Ishmael was the chosen son and not Isaac. By doing so, he just erased all the original covenant and laws. Or more precisely he was able to modify them to fit his agenda.

Second, he had to diminish the role of Jesus, to remove from him what would place him on top of the food chain. So, out goes the crucifixion and resurrection.

Also don't forget to mention that both the NT and OT were perverted by the evil joooozzz no less, it has to have it's own flavor of anti-semitism to whip the follower into religious frenzy.

As for Mohamed being a prophet... Nah... He was a warlord first and foremost. His follower built a myth around him after his death. This isn't uncommon, even in europe such things happened, Like Louis IX, who became a saint.

Note: I'm not a southern USA evangelist. Hell I'm not even a true christian. I was baptized and raised a catholic but I've stop practicing quite a while ago. I just like to hang around here and have a little fun arguing with y'all...

 

Be careful not to pop a vein...

 

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Common knowledge aint all that common !

Very true .. He saw how successfull Constantines creation was and how well the concept of fear was used to keep the raging masses in check.

It was one thing to question "Gods word" as dictated by the King or Religious leader in the old days. Egyptians believed your deeds were weighed on scales in the afterlife and if you were found wanting you were thrown to a monster and eaten .. but that was the end of it.

It was a completely different thing to question the word of the King or Religious leader when you were to be tortured for eternity !!

This idea was the best control mechanism ever !!

For this reason Muhammud ramped up the "fear factor". Every second page of the Koran is "do this and burn forever" "dont to that or suffer eternal torture"

Complete and utter brainwashing .. folks so afraid to question anything because deep in their subconscious is implanted since birth the fear .. over and over .. page after page.

One thing I will say for the Jews is that they are raised to Question. This probably has alot to do with their concept of hell as something like a dark place or a deep pit called Sheol.

Christians and Muslims is the reverse .. Do not Question or suffer eternal pain and torture.

I do get a chuckle out of the idea that the Angel Gabriel dictated the Koran to Muhammud over 25 years .. what .. did he give him only 2 words a day ?

 

The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) wasn't inspired by Christianity or Judaism.... He was told he was a Prophet by a Christian Monk, he didn't just wake up one day and say "I want to start a religion"....

And the most probable reason why the Quran was given to Muhammad (PBUH) in 22 years - not 25 - was probably so his companions could remember the verses one by one, instead of being thrown at them all at once. He could not read or write, so he couldn't write everything down at once and it would of been nearly impossible to remember every verse if Gabriel gave it all to him at once....

Muslims are free to question what is in the Quran... Why do you think there are differnt understandings and interpretations of it? There isn't one universal meaning of the verses in the Quran. If we weren't allowed to question it, there would be.

Salam

 

My theory is right then, Mohammed was suppossed to be a Christian prophet to bring the message and word of Jesus Christ to the desert tribes but some how along the way he lost his focus and become the anti Christ instead.

That is why the Quran is so much lacking in chronological order and had 40+ writters that later on many of the writtings will be burn. Just a reminder the Muslim-Gabriel is not the same as the Christian-Gabriel.

Muslim-Gabriel was angry, intimidating, aggressive and very unassuring. Christian-Gabriel is very polite, very re-assuring, not intimidating and very calm.

Maybe MUslims should be asking the right question, it seem they are asking the wrong question about the Quran.

Such as the character of Muslim-Gabriel.
The Ishmael-Isaac story, according to the Quran both Ishmael and Isaac were chosen and yet the Quran was very clear it mention only SON not SONS, why?
Jesus Christ, Islam strongly do not believe He is God even though Gabriel announce it to Mary that the son will be Holy and He will be the Son of God, the Quran recognize Mary's virgin birth and Gabriel's message and yet it contradicts by not accepting Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
Then the story of Mohammed
The story inside the Kabaa and the black stone

I cannot help notice that Muslims do not want to learn about this truths.

 

Actually, the evidence is that Islam began as a heretical Christian cult.

Muhammad accepted almost the totality of the Christian conception of Christ except for his divinity. He accepted the Virgin Birth. He accepted that Jesus was "The Messiah." He accepted that Jesus will return in a second coming. And he accepted (but explained away) the Resurrection by insisting that Jesus was never actually crucified in the first place.

Once he began to hear voices and was convinced by his wife that they were not the voices of demons or djin, Muhammad understood himself to be initially just another Judeo-Christian Prophet in the tradition of Moses and Jesus and did not consider what he was doing to be a "new" religion... until he was rejected and opposed by the Christians and Jews with whom he was in contact. The turning point was the experience of the Hijra... and the decisive conflict between the Muslims and the Jews of Yathrib.

The initial sanctuary Muhammad was offered by the Jews of Yathrib rapidly deteriorated into warfare and ultimately ethnic cleansing. He arrived in Yathrib in September of 622. Within a year and a half, relationships with the Jews had deteriorated so badly that he changed the Qibla from Jerusalem to Mecca.... almost certainly the point at which he formally broke from Islam's parent religions. By April of 627 Muhammad had managed to exile, enslave or execute every one of the remaining Jews of (by now) Medina. From then on, Islam was not only its own religion, but a driving force behind one of the most amazing examples of Imperialist expansion in all of human history.

But in the same way that Christianity is a syncretic faith that fuzed Judaism with Hellenistic paganism, Islam is a syncretic faith fuzing the earlier Abrahamic faiths with Arab paganism. Almost all of Islamic ritual (the Haj, the circumambulation of the Ka'aba, the "stoning of the devil," the drinking of Zam-zam water) was taken directly from pre-Islamic Arab paganism. Much of Shari'a hails directly from the Old Testament. And Islam's exclusive monotheism, salvation scheme and imperialism are an inheritance from Christianity.

The idea that Muhammad could not read or write is doubtful. Not only was he a successful merchant prior to his prophet-hood (a profession that requires at least some level of literacy and numeracy) there are Sahih ahadith that are clear that he could actually write.

From Sahih Bukhari we read, "When Allah's Apostle was on his death-bed and in the house there were some people among whom was 'Umar bin Al-Khattab, the Prophet said, "Come, let me write for you a statement after which you will not go astray." 'Umar said, "The Prophet is seriously ill and you have the Qur'an; so the Book of Allah is enough for us." The people present in the house differed and quarrelled. Some said "Go near so that the Prophet may write for you a statement after which you will not go astray," while the others said as Umar said. When they caused a hue and cry before the Prophet, Allah's Apostle said, "Go away!" Narrated 'Ubaidullah: Ibn 'Abbas used to say, "It was very unfortunate that Allah's Apostle was prevented from writing that statement for them because of their disagreement and noise." "

We find essentially the identical Hadith in Sahih Muslim. In that version Muhammad even explicitly asks for a quill and paper.

So he almost certainly could read and write.

A better explanation for the incremental 'revelation" of the Qur'an becomes clear when it is actually put in chronological order of revelation and put in the context of its time period. The Qur'an was almost invariably "revealed" when it was needed to solve problems, settle conflicts, or meet immediate exigencies of Muhammad and the companions. The Qur'an was "revealed" when it was needed.

 

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAPKYKhTp8U&feature=feedrec_grec_index"]Arab Intellectual - Muslim Failure - YouTube[/ame]

Here is a good video about a Muslim talking some real sense, I like to point out what he said "Muslims are very selective in their history"

One Muslim that makes sense, I wish there are more like him.

 

He sure spent alot of time with Gabriel then. Regular visitations over 25 years is quite something. Unprecidented in religious history in fact, so unprecidented that it is "almost" unbelievable.

Do you think Muhammad invited others to witness these regular visitations ?

Salamon Rushdie questioned the Quran.. Fatwa time !! This is what happens to those who "seriously" question the faith.

Muhammad wrote the Quran over 25 years because it took time to write. Plain and simple. He had to gather stuff from the Bible, from Persian myths, and other places and make it look real scriptural.

Still he managed to write 4 or 5 books a year which makes sense. 25 years you get the 114 books of the Quran.

What does not make sense is that it would take the Angel Gabriel that long to dictate it. The books are rather short so he should have been able to bang the entire Quran off in a week.

25 years is absurd.

There is a clear ideological path, as I described previously, that underlies the use of fear of eternal torture in the afterlife in a religious monotheistic context.

The objective of this path is to control people and it had been shown to work very well with Christianity and Zoroastrianism prior to that.

It was the ideas of Zoroastrianism that Constantine copied for his template for Christianity.

This methodology was well understood by many that were "enlightened"/ rose above the dim witted intellect of the raging masses aka sheep.

Muhammad must have understood the formula well because he really ramped up the fear factor. The Quran really stresses ye old eternal punishment on pretty near every second page and sometimes multiple times per page.

Perhaps he had an unusually chaotic rabble to deal with and this is why he figured he needed such emphasis on fear.

 

What a great vid .. everyone should watch it. I like the part when he says religious leaders should stay out of politics and things to which they are not experts .. mentioning economic "fatwa's"

 

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAPKYKhTp8U&feature=feedrec_grec_index"]Arab Intellectual - Muslim Failure - YouTube[/ame]

I can't help notice that Islamic (religious) leaders are trying to hide the truth, they have basically made Mohammed totally and absolutely infallible, Mohammed is off limits and untouchable, unlike Christians we are allow to examine the Bible, examine Jesus Christ, examine Biblical artefacts etc. But Islam are totally against any examination of Islam records especially the rock inside the Kabaa.

Another thing that was mention in that interview was the USA, he was bang on the USA has not hurt Muslims in fact if it was not for the USA Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia would be like Somalia.

He talk about the nijab, he talk about women's rights everything makes sense and makes no sense of the Islamic leadership.

What he has been saying is very much identical to what Dr. Jasser has been saying.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P35E31THd8"]Zuhdi Jasser - Oslo Freedom Forum 2010 - YouTube[/ame]

 

1. So you actually believe this fairy tale ? Upon what evidence ?

2. Funny how you turn up with statements that are contrary to what is well known about Islam. Of course Muslims are NOT free to question the Koran. It's considered to be the word of God (by Muslims). Why do you think not one word of it has been changed in 1400 years ?

 

The very fact that he uses the word "Islamaphobic" shows what a programmed robot he is. There is no such thing as Islamapohobia. A phobia is an irrational fear based on things that don't exist. THIS exists :

The 1991 Explanatory Memorandum...for North America, discovered by the FBI in 2005, and declassified in the Holy Land Foundation, Hamas terrorist funding trial in 2007 & 2008.

The key words from it are :

"The process of settlement [of Islam in the United States] is a "Civilization-Jihadist" process with all that the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood in North America] must understand that all their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" their miserable house by their hands, and the hands of the believers, so that it is eliminated, and Allah's religion is made victorious over all religions."

Mohamed Akram, "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America" May 22, 1991, Government Exhibit 003-0085, United States vs. Holy Land Foundation, et al. 7 (21).

PS - nothing in the world is more "ethnocentrist" than Islam.

 

They can be called anything but Islam is not a religion, it's a con job.

 

You miss the point. The actual ideology (masquerading as a religion) is not what's important to Americans wishing to protect our culture, and not have Muslim screwballs imposing their culture on us. That imposition (AKA Islamization) is what matters, not what is or isn't in the big book of hate.

 

Didn't I already say that my knowledge of Islamization comes mostly from books and their hundreds of footnoted reports ? I (and anyone else reading this thread) am detecting deceit from you (well why not, if you're a Muslim).

1. They Must Be Stopped by Brigitte Gabriel

2. The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades) by Robert Spencer

3. Stealth Jihad by Robert Spencer

4. Infiltration by Paul Sperry

5. The Day of Islam by Dr. Paul Williams

6. Sharia: the Threat to America by the Center for Security Policy

7. The Third Jihad (DVD) by Dr. Zuddhi Jasser

8. Muslim Mafia by P.David Gaubatz & Paul Sperry

I've read many more than these, but just the 1st 2 are enough to get a very good grasp of Islamization in North America and Europe. Read these and come back and report to me. That's your assignment.

As for your imbecile statement > "There is nothing you have written here that deserves to be taken seriously,", there are HUNDREDS of things I've written that deserve to be taken seriously, and they already have been taken seriously by the US Justice Dept., the US State Dept, the US Congress, and law enforcement oficials and protectionist organizations.

Like THIS :

the 1991 Explanatory Memorandum...for North America, discovered by the FBI in 2005, and declassified in the Holy Land Foundation, Hamas terrorist funding trial in 2007 & 2008.

The key words from it are :

"The process of settlement [of Islam in the United States] is a "Civilization-Jihadist" process with all that the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood in North America] must understand that all their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" their miserable house by their hands, and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated, and Allah's religion is made victorious over all religions."

Mohamed Akram, "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America" May 22, 1991, Government Exhibit 003-0085, United States vs. Holy Land Foundation, et al. 7 (21).

If anybody would be looney enough to try to refute this, the US Justice Dept. is the source of the information, and they will back it up. So will the 5 or 6 Muslim Brotherhood leaders convicted in the trial, and now rotting in prison, for the rest of their lives.

 

Here's some more of what I've written that needs to be taken seriously. Very seriously.

Names associated with Stealth Jihad (AKA Islamization)

Ibin Taamiyah, the Madhi, Sheik Ahmed Yassin, Sami al-Arian, Ramadan Abdallah Shallah, Mazen al-Najjar, Richard A. Clarke, Imam Muzzamil Siddiqui, Susan Douglas, Peter DiGangi, William Bennetta, Gilbert Sewall , Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, al-Hajj Talib'Abur, Rashid Sahmsi Ali, Khalid Latif, Omar Mohammedi, Joe Kaufman, Chantal Carnes, Hasan al-Banna (creator of the Muslim Brotherhood-I'll give you that one), Tariq Ramadan, Siraj Wahhaj, Mozen Mokhtar, Nouman Ali Khan, Abdul Malik , Imam Jamal Badawi, Br. Jawad Ahmad, Hassan Abbas, Mullah Abdul Rashid Ghazi, Sheik Mjed 'Abd al-Rahman al-Firian, Prince Sultan Ibn Abd al-'Aziz, Ali al-Ahmed, Itamar Marcus, Barbara Cook, Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab, Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, Mohammed Osman Idris, Mohammed el-Yacoubi, Abu Abdullah, Baitullah Mehsud, Yunis al-Astal, Zeyno Baran, Aaron Klein, Muhammad Abdel-El, Sheik Yasser Hamad, Nur Mohammad, Ahmed Yassin (deceased), Sheik Abdel Rahman, Sheik Mohammed bin Rashid AL Maktoum, Abdullah Azzam, Fazlur Rehman Khalil , Mohammad Elachmi Hamdi, Bat Ye'or, Max Steenberghe, Anders Fogh Ramussen, Paul Jeeves, Yusuf al-Qarodawi, Bashar al-Assad, Robert S. Leiken, Theo Van Gogh, Michel Gurfinkel, Imam Ahmed Salam, Piet Hein Donner, Miguel Angel Toma , Salah Yassin, Hassan Nasrallah, Ahmed Assad Barakat, Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, Bashar al-Assad, Adolpho Aguilar Zinser, Joseph Farah, Nabil al-Marabh, Raed Hijazi, David Harris, Syed Mumtaz Ali, Omar Ahmad, Ibrahim Hooper, Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani, Dr. Paul Williams , Hassan al Turabi, Clement Rodney Hampton-El, Kevin James, Warner MacKenzie, Sayeed Abdul A'la Maududi, Abdullah Yusef Ali, Mohammed Marmaduke Pickthall, Nessim Joseph Dawood, Mohammed Habib Shakir, Arthur John Arberry, Aqsa Parvez, Atefeh Rajabi, Francis Bok, Michael Coren, Homaidan Ali Al-Turki, Sheik Saleh Al-Fawzan, Paul Marshall, Koenraad Elst, Tom Clancy, Phil Alden Robinson, Michael Graham, Thomas Klocek, Stephen Coughlin, Hasham Islam, Steven Emerson, Mordechai Nisan, Abduraman Alamoudi, Ramadan Abdallah Shallah, Musa Abu Marzook, Keith Ellison, Abdullah al-Arian, ,Jamal-al-Din al-Afghani, James Woolsey, Walid Phares, Guy Rodgers, Brigitte Gabriel, Robert Spencer, Paul Sperry, P.David Gaubatz, Chris Gaubatz, Stefanie Creswell, Charety Zhe, Adnan el-Shukrijumah, Jaffar the Pilot, Mohammad Weiss Rasool, Brian P. Fairchild, Peter M. Leitner, Sergeant Naveed I. Butt, Bill Bratton, Jamal Barzinji, Ingrid Mattson, Safaa Zarzour, Khalid Iqbal, James "Yousef" Yee, Ahmed Alwani, Taja Alwani, Warith Deen Umar, Tom Harrington, John Guandolo, Patrick Sookhdeo, Gaddoor Saidi, Muhammad Usmani, Mahdi Bray, Ali al-Timimi, Maulana Abdul Ala Maududi, Sayyid Quth, Zaid Shakir, Hamdan al-Shalawi, Muhammed al-Qudhaieen, Omar Shain, Hani Hanjour, Kenneth Williams, Edward Sloan, Ismail Elbarasse, Sheik Omar Abdul-Rahman, George Sadler, Mohammed Akram Adlouni, Zeid al-Noman, Shukri Aby Baker, Mohammad El-Mezain, Ghassan Elashi, Sayyid Syeed, Bassem Osman, Ahmed Elkadi, Mahboob Khan, Suhail Khan, Mufid Abdulgader, Abdelhaleem Ashqar, Frank Gaffney, Sue Myrick, Abuhena Saifulislam, Ali "the American" Mohamed, Juan Zarate, Hisham Altalib, Mohammed Shamma, Ahmad Sakr, Abdullah bin Laden, Mohamed Jamal Khalifah, Ahmad Mohamed Ali, Joey Musmar, Lina Morales

Things associated with Stealth Jihad (AKA Islamization)

Hijra, jizyah, Istanbul, Al-Quds, Al-Aqsa mosque, , treaty of Al-Hudaybiyah, Oslo Accords, the Mahdi, Al-Ansar, 2006 Pentagon report : "Motivations of Muslim Suicide Bombers" ), "The Project", the Muslim Brotherhood, the Ikhwan, Taqiyya, Da'wa, Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), Holy Land Foundation trials - 2007 & 2008, Khalil Gibran Academy, US Treasury Dept. (Office of Foreign Asset Control), Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), Muslim American Society (MSA), United States Counterinsurgency Manual FM 3-24, US Justice Dept. report - 2004, US Justice Dept. report - 2007, abeds, North American Islamic Trust, Islamic Council for North America, United Association for Studies and Research, Muslim American Youth Association, the Hamas Charter, Islamic Academy of Florida, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, American Youth Academy, New Horizons Schools, Islamic American University, DawaNet-to link • to serve: Home with sections entitled "How to Make America an Islamic Nation" and Da'wa in Public Schools, Excelsior Elementary School, Thomas Moore Law Center, Islamic Saudi Academy, "The Islam Project" by the Council on Islamic Education, the Arab World History Notebook, "Across the Centuries", California Academy of Sciences, "World Cultures : A Global Mosaic", American Textbook Council, "Islam and the Textbooks", Arab American Family Support Center (AAFSC), Mosque of Islamic Brotherhood's Boy Scout program (MIB), Americans Against Hate, CAIR Watch, the Young Muslims, Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), Jamaat-e-Islami, Young Muslim Sisters (YMS), Middle East Media Research Institute, US Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF), Freedom House, Institute for Gulf Affairs, Palestinian Media Watch, "Contemporary Problems", "History of the Arabs and the World in the 20th Century", Reading and Text Part II, Association of Independent Schools, ISA accreditation, Center for Religious Freedom, Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islami, Islamic Party of Liberation, Al-Aksa TV of Hamas, Hudson institute, Popular Resistance Committee, "Schmoozing With Terrorists", US House of Representitives, Abu Dhabi Investment Authority, "Eurabia, the Euro-Arab Axis", European Union, the Arab League,"Foreign Affairs" - "Europe's Angry Muslims", Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), Sharee Council of Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, Immigration and National Security Program at the Nixon Center, Sukuk, Sharia compliant banks, Saxony-Anhalt, piggy banks in England, foot washing basins (Kansas City Airport & University of Michigan), "Britain's Daily Mail" - "Multiculturalsim Drives Young Muslims to Shun British Values", Nationa Intelligence Council, www.islamonline.net, "Valeurs Actuelles", the triple border region, UN Security Council, House Homeland Security Committee subcommittee on investigations report : "A Line In the Sand: Confronting the Threat At the Southwest Border", OTMs, Jamaat ul-Fuqra, Muslims of the Americas, the FBI, Canadian Security Intelligence Service, "TD Monthly", halal chicken, ACLU, the Date Frappuccino, Open Society Foundation, Whiting Foundation, hijab, Transportation & Safety Admin. (TSA), "New Media Journal" report - "In the Belly of the Beast: Jamaat ul-Fuqra, Jamaat ul-Fuqra mosque (Brooklyn, NY), Koran: 4:34, honor killings, the Alec file, Jamiyyat Ul-Islam, It's the Ideology Stupid,Tad-ru-bu-hu-nna, Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, UN Children's Fund, the Population Council - 2003 survey, m'uta, Haratines, Janjaweed, Dinka tribe, "Escape From Slavery", Toronto Sun online - "Slavery Lives in the Sudan", Middle East Forum - "The Problem with Slavery", Saudi Arabia Senior Council of Clerics, Human Rights Watch, Middle East Forum, Copts, Baha'i sect of Islam, "Islam : From Toleration to Terror", Hizb ut-Tahrir, Jyllands-Posten, "The Sum of All Fears", University of South Florida, Palistinian Islamic Jihad, "Future Jihad", Mosque Census Project, Eid al-Adha, Shahada, Mahram, FBI's Arab/Muslim Sikh American Advisory Committee, Higgins Center for Counterterrorism Research, Jamaat e-Islami, Samah, Tarbiya, Dar al-Arqam, SWICK, Policy-net

As you do your reading assignment, you will slowly come to be familiar with who these people are, and what these things are. You start to realize what an empty box you are right now, and become amazzed at all that has gone on right under your nose and you had no clue about it.

 

Here's more stuff that I've written that needs to be taken seriously.

More reading assignment for you. You have a lot to learn. Forget about "first hand experience with Muslims and Islam". That doesn't change the Islamizing that's going on. You'll probably need to read the books (and their footnotes) to even understand what I'm talking about. Here's just some good information about Islamization. LEARN IT.

Facts - briefly, follow them up in the books I recommended (and stop talking!)

1. Lina Morales - was fired from her job at Muslim-owned company for eating a bacon, lettuce & tomato sandwich, and a pizza with Canadian bacon & sausage.

2. Muslims who kill goats each November on Eid Al-Adha as a religious ritual. Normal in the Isalmic world. Earth to Islamapologists : This is the USA. Killing animals here is a CRIME (Animal Cruelty). Every Novemeber my neighbors who are Muslim, and have a few acres have goats, and I hear the poor animals crying out when these savages are slitting their throats (the method to get "halal" meat), another barbarism of them.
If I see them and can video them, I'll have them arrested.

3. Major Stephen Coughlin, the Pentagon's top expert on militant Islam and Islamic law, was fired just because a high ranking Muslim complained about him (telling the truth). After storms of protest, Coughlin was rehired, but in a different position.

4. Countless textbooks in schools have been removed because of false information glorifying Islam, while denigrating Christianity & Judaism. See Islam and the Textbooks, by Gilbert Sewall (American Textbook Council). an example of this was the Arab World History Notebook, in which Muslims had claimed that they settled in North America as early as 889 AD, and become chiefs in the Algonquin tribe of Eastern Canada. This was exposed by Peter DiGangi, Director of Canada's Algonquin Nation Secretariat in Quebec in an interview with the Washington Times, he staed these claims were outlandish and preposterous. Eventually, the misinformation was removed from the textbook, but by then 1200 teachers across America had used the text for 5 years. Students who were taught the Muslim lies graduated and went on to higher grades and other schools never having known of the corrections. I occasionally come across some people who believe this malarky, from having had it taught to them when they were kids in school. LOL.

5. Always be aware that unlike Christianity & Judaism, which forbid lying, Islam encourages it as long as it is to further the cause of the "Caliphate" (establishment of a world-wide Islamic state) - this is called "taqiyya".

6. Sura 4:34 of the Koran advocates for husbands to beat their wives. Five different translations say this, including the one accepted by CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations), one of the main Muslim Brotherhood front groups, always pretending to be "moderate" and friendly.

7. Islam wrote the book on racism. For 1300 years before slave ships arrived in America, Arab Muslims were going into north and central Africa, raiding black Africans' villages, and kidnapping blacks to be transported north to become slaves for Muslims. Black people are very low regarded in the Islamic world, and are thought of as dirty.
A typical view among Arab Muslims is that Allah created blacks for one reason - to be slaves. In fact, in some areas of the Middle East the word abed or abeed (black) also means > slave. That's how deeply entrenched slavery (of black Africans) is in the Islamic world.

This abomination continues now into modern times. For a real-life personal account of it from someone who lived through it read the book "Escape From Slavery" by Francis Bok. At age 7, Bok, a black African, was kidnapped by Muslim slavers and taken north to the farm of a Muslim family. When he arrived there, the children ran out of the house toward him. Bok smiled, thinking the Muslim kids were eager to meet him.
Instead, they picked up sticks and started beating him, yelling "Abed! Abed! Abed!"
There is no greater level of racism than in the Islamic world, and Muhammad himself had dozens of slaves from his captured lands.

I could go on and on, but I've got other things to do. YOU'RE WELCOME.

 

Too late. You have demonstrated yourself unworthy of serious attention.

There are only so many minutes in a hour. I really can't afford to waste any of them on what you write.

 

The only thing too late, is your failure to educate yourself about Islamization, MR QUIZ ZERO, and that's obvious to anyone reading this thread, combined with your obvious dishonesty. (for example : referring to US Justice Dept reports as "unworthy of serious attention").

 

You should seriously consider removing the foil hat. The drivel you post demonstrates that you should not be taken seriously.

Really? Ever hear of bow hunting?

Odd, Jews do the same for the meat to be Kosher.

Good luck with that. Let us know how you made out.

Can yo point out where in the Bible is anything said against slavery?

Really not necessary, you have been most convincing already.

 

And you have convinced us that you are a jerk.

 

You do think that this is BAD, correct?

Muslims are like an iPhone user who would want to kill Apple for daring to come out with a new improved version of the iPhone.

Religion has stopped more potential human progress than anything in world history.

I can think of thousands of obvious improvements to the Qur'an:
1. Teach to not kill homosexuals. (Jesus got this wrong, too.)
2. Not teach that "Christians and Jews are the sons of apes and pigs".
3. Not say women are worth 1/2 a man (Jesus is no better than Mohammad, as Jesus didn't renounce this concept, either.)
4. Teach that Jews are equal to Muslims (judging by number of Nobel prizes won per capita, obviously at least equal.)
5. Teach that women's testimony is not worth 1/2 that of a man.
6. Teach that rape of captives is wrong.

7. What else can we improve on, gang?...

 

Protectionist: is the wording in the Bible, specifically regarding slavery, more for or against slavery?

If the Bible was moral, then the correct answer would of course be "it never once gives any indication that it approves of slavery in any way, and claiming to be a moral guide, it also strongly rails against slavery". Is that your answer?

 

How about:
taking 9 years old girls to bed is Rape and pedophilia.
beating your woman for disabaying you is wrong.
Don't kill all the Jews and christians until they submit to you and pay ransom for their life.
Don't make a big slaughter of prisoners of war for god.
Don't fight and kill all non muslims until none of them is left.

 

Of course I not. If it's not broken, don't fix it. And Islam isn't broken.

1. The Quran doesn't say to kill homosexuals. Homosexuality is a sin in Islam, but there is no verse in the Quran saying the punishment is death. It isn't specific on the punishment.

There are Hadiths talking about killing homosexuals, but most scholars consider them weak Hadiths and not reliable.

2. The Quran doesn't teach that Christians and Jews are sons of pigs and monkeys.

The verses you are referring to aren't talking about all Jews, it's a group of them who sinned. Read the entire verses.

And it doesn't say they are sons of pigs and monkeys, but that Allah SWT (God) turned them into pigs and monkeys as punishment.

Calling all Jews sons of pigs would be insulting Moses (PBUH) and Jesus (PBUH) which is a sin in Islam.

3. The Quran doesn't say women are worth half a man either.

I'm sure I know which verses you're talking about, and they are talking about how to split inheretance, not the general worth of a man and women.

4. Where does it put Muslims ahead of Jews?

In Islam, good people of all of the Abrahimic faiths will go to Heaven. That incudes Jews.

Moses (PBUH) and Jesus (PBUH), both Jews, are Prophets of Islam with their own relevations from Allah SWT.

5. Islam doesn't teach a womans testimony is worth half of a mans.

Again, like in #3, this is referring to a specific situation: dealing with loans.

And there are two women to avoid any bias between them, and also at the time women weren't involved in finances.

6. Quran doesn't allow rape of any kind.

A Muslim is given permission to have sex with a slave woman in the Quran, but this doesn't mean he can rape her, because Muslims are suppose to treat their slaves with kindness, dignity, etc.

If you'd like, I can post Quranic verses for all these. If that would make a difference...

Salam