Islam has no case

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  1. OJLeb

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    Should I even bother wasting my time here.....
     
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    Figured I should bump ththese posts....
     
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    Struck a nerve I see. Probably the one that makes bigotry and ignorance possible. It is OK, rubbing the place with a bit of knowledge lessens the pain.
     
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    Seeing as his only response to the post was calling you a jerk, seems you're probably right.
     
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    Why ? Do you thing that having sex with a 9 years old is not rape ?
     
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    I don't read any bibles.
     
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    No, it's because I'd be wasting my time with you.

    Thousands of years ago? No it wasn't considered rape thousands of years ago, and it isn't 100% she was even 9 years old at the time. Some think she was 9, some think she was older. Even as old as 17.

    But you can't compare today to the time of 1000's of years ago....

    My question for you, whats her name?

    Salam :)
     
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    That would explain why you have no clue about it.
     
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    And I'm suppose to believe you've read the Quran? And you believe the teachings of Jesus (PBUH) without reading the Old or New Testaments?

    Lol
     
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    I'm not talking about 1000's of years ago.
    I'm talking about today.
    Accepting Sharia law means it is legal today, not in history of which I don't realy care.

    Now answer the question, you try to avoid:
    Is having sex with a 9 years old, rape or is it legal ?
    Is it legal under Sharia law ?
    What is the legal age for marriage in countries that accepted Sharia law ?
     
  11. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    You said it your self Islam has not change since its inception, a thousand year ago and today are still the same.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I8K1PDoVxU"]Muslim Girl Married At 12, Fears For Her Life From Her Husband. ABSOLUTELY SHOCKING - YouTube[/ame]
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BRzhB1BjKQ&feature=related"]Mass Wedding Organized By Hamas in Gaza 450 girls 6-9 years old. - YouTube[/ame]
     
  12. junobet

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    Mmmh, mass wedding of little girls organized by Hamas? I wondered why I hadn't read of such a thing in any mainstream-media. So I looked it up and it turns out it's been internet hoax and never happened:

    http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=106002
     
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    Upon what do you base the "conclusion" that it never happened ? On the words of an Islamist organizer of the event (Ahmed Jarbour, a Hamas official in Gaza) ? Real non-partisan, disinterested party, huh ? Sure looks like it happened. So the little girls didn't say anything. Of course not. They're probably scared to death to say anything.
     
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    I know enough about Jesus and his teachings without reading a Bible, as do most people. Ho Hum.
     
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    He thinks that until he sees the Quiz. Then he'll know what the knowledge is, and that he doesn't have it. He'll find out - just like you did MR QUIZ ZERO. LOL.
     
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    Yeah ? Well here's the "knowledge", and if you think you have it, show it. Identify these hundreds of names & things associated with Islamization. No fake answers. I know who/what they are. Every single one. Don't worry about a bad grade. Best Islamapologist grade so far has been 5% (most got zero).

    Names associated with Stealth Jihad (AKA Islamization)

    Ibin Taamiyah, the Madhi, Sheik Ahmed Yassin, Sami al-Arian, Ramadan Abdallah Shallah, Mazen al-Najjar, Richard A. Clarke, Imam Muzzamil Siddiqui, Susan Douglas, Peter DiGangi, William Bennetta, Gilbert Sewall , Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, al-Hajj Talib'Abur, Rashid Sahmsi Ali, Khalid Latif, Omar Mohammedi, Joe Kaufman, Chantal Carnes, Hasan al-Banna (creator of the Muslim Brotherhood-I'll give you that one), Tariq Ramadan, Siraj Wahhaj, Mozen Mokhtar, Nouman Ali Khan, Abdul Malik , Imam Jamal Badawi, Br. Jawad Ahmad, Hassan Abbas, Mullah Abdul Rashid Ghazi, Sheik Mjed 'Abd al-Rahman al-Firian, Prince Sultan Ibn Abd al-'Aziz, Ali al-Ahmed, Itamar Marcus, Barbara Cook, Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab, Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, Mohammed Osman Idris, Mohammed el-Yacoubi, Abu Abdullah, Baitullah Mehsud, Yunis al-Astal, Zeyno Baran, Aaron Klein, Muhammad Abdel-El, Sheik Yasser Hamad, Nur Mohammad, Ahmed Yassin (deceased), Sheik Abdel Rahman, Sheik Mohammed bin Rashid AL Maktoum, Abdullah Azzam, Fazlur Rehman Khalil , Mohammad Elachmi Hamdi, Bat Ye'or, Max Steenberghe, Anders Fogh Ramussen, Paul Jeeves, Yusuf al-Qarodawi, Bashar al-Assad, Robert S. Leiken, Theo Van Gogh, Michel Gurfinkel, Imam Ahmed Salam, Piet Hein Donner, Miguel Angel Toma , Salah Yassin, Hassan Nasrallah, Ahmed Assad Barakat, Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, Bashar al-Assad, Adolpho Aguilar Zinser, Joseph Farah, Nabil al-Marabh, Raed Hijazi, David Harris, Syed Mumtaz Ali, Omar Ahmad, Ibrahim Hooper, Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani, Dr. Paul Williams , Hassan al Turabi, Clement Rodney Hampton-El, Kevin James, Warner MacKenzie, Sayeed Abdul A'la Maududi, Abdullah Yusef Ali, Mohammed Marmaduke Pickthall, Nessim Joseph Dawood, Mohammed Habib Shakir, Arthur John Arberry, Aqsa Parvez, Atefeh Rajabi, Francis Bok, Michael Coren, Homaidan Ali Al-Turki, Sheik Saleh Al-Fawzan, Paul Marshall, Koenraad Elst, Tom Clancy, Phil Alden Robinson, Michael Graham, Thomas Klocek, Stephen Coughlin, Hasham Islam, Steven Emerson, Mordechai Nisan, Abduraman Alamoudi, Ramadan Abdallah Shallah, Musa Abu Marzook, Keith Ellison, Abdullah al-Arian, ,Jamal-al-Din al-Afghani, James Woolsey, Walid Phares, Guy Rodgers, Brigitte Gabriel, Robert Spencer, Paul Sperry, P.David Gaubatz, Chris Gaubatz, Stefanie Creswell, Charety Zhe, Adnan el-Shukrijumah, Jaffar the Pilot, Mohammad Weiss Rasool, Brian P. Fairchild, Peter M. Leitner, Sergeant Naveed I. Butt, Bill Bratton, Jamal Barzinji, Ingrid Mattson, Safaa Zarzour, Khalid Iqbal, James "Yousef" Yee, Ahmed Alwani, Taja Alwani, Warith Deen Umar, Tom Harrington, John Guandolo, Patrick Sookhdeo, Gaddoor Saidi, Muhammad Usmani, Mahdi Bray, Ali al-Timimi, Maulana Abdul Ala Maududi, Sayyid Quth, Zaid Shakir, Hamdan al-Shalawi, Muhammed al-Qudhaieen, Omar Shain, Hani Hanjour, Kenneth Williams, Edward Sloan, Ismail Elbarasse, Sheik Omar Abdul-Rahman, George Sadler, Mohammed Akram Adlouni, Zeid al-Noman, Shukri Aby Baker, Mohammad El-Mezain, Ghassan Elashi, Sayyid Syeed, Bassem Osman, Ahmed Elkadi, Mahboob Khan, Suhail Khan, Mufid Abdulgader, Abdelhaleem Ashqar, Frank Gaffney, Sue Myrick, Abuhena Saifulislam, Ali "the American" Mohamed, Juan Zarate, Hisham Altalib, Mohammed Shamma, Ahmad Sakr, Abdullah bin Laden, Mohamed Jamal Khalifah, Ahmad Mohamed Ali, Joey Musmar, Lina Morales

    Things associated with Stealth Jihad (AKA Islamization)

    Hijra, jizyah, Istanbul, Al-Quds, Al-Aqsa mosque, , treaty of Al-Hudaybiyah, Oslo Accords, the Mahdi, Al-Ansar, 2006 Pentagon report : "Motivations of Muslim Suicide Bombers" ), "The Project", the Muslim Brotherhood, the Ikhwan, Taqiyya, Da'wa, Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), Holy Land Foundation trials - 2007 & 2008, Khalil Gibran Academy, US Treasury Dept. (Office of Foreign Asset Control), Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), Muslim American Society (MSA), United States Counterinsurgency Manual FM 3-24, US Justice Dept. report - 2004, US Justice Dept. report - 2007, abeds, North American Islamic Trust, Islamic Council for North America, United Association for Studies and Research, Muslim American Youth Association, the Hamas Charter, Islamic Academy of Florida, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, American Youth Academy, New Horizons Schools, Islamic American University, DawaNet-to link • to serve: Home with sections entitled "How to Make America an Islamic Nation" and Da'wa in Public Schools, Excelsior Elementary School, Thomas Moore Law Center, Islamic Saudi Academy, "The Islam Project" by the Council on Islamic Education, the Arab World History Notebook, "Across the Centuries", California Academy of Sciences, "World Cultures : A Global Mosaic", American Textbook Council, "Islam and the Textbooks", Arab American Family Support Center (AAFSC), Mosque of Islamic Brotherhood's Boy Scout program (MIB), Americans Against Hate, CAIR Watch, the Young Muslims, Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), Jamaat-e-Islami, Young Muslim Sisters (YMS), Middle East Media Research Institute, US Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF), Freedom House, Institute for Gulf Affairs, Palestinian Media Watch, "Contemporary Problems", "History of the Arabs and the World in the 20th Century", Reading and Text Part II, Association of Independent Schools, ISA accreditation, Center for Religious Freedom, Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islami, Islamic Party of Liberation, Al-Aksa TV of Hamas, Hudson institute, Popular Resistance Committee, "Schmoozing With Terrorists", US House of Representitives, Abu Dhabi Investment Authority, "Eurabia, the Euro-Arab Axis", European Union, the Arab League,"Foreign Affairs" - "Europe's Angry Muslims", Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), Sharee Council of Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, Immigration and National Security Program at the Nixon Center, Sukuk, Sharia compliant banks, Saxony-Anhalt, piggy banks in England, foot washing basins (Kansas City Airport & University of Michigan), "Britain's Daily Mail" - "Multiculturalsim Drives Young Muslims to Shun British Values", Nationa Intelligence Council, www.islamonline.net, "Valeurs Actuelles", the triple border region, UN Security Council, House Homeland Security Committee subcommittee on investigations report : "A Line In the Sand: Confronting the Threat At the Southwest Border", OTMs, Jamaat ul-Fuqra, Muslims of the Americas, the FBI, Canadian Security Intelligence Service, "TD Monthly", halal chicken, ACLU, the Date Frappuccino, Open Society Foundation, Whiting Foundation, hijab, Transportation & Safety Admin. (TSA), "New Media Journal" report - "In the Belly of the Beast: Jamaat ul-Fuqra, Jamaat ul-Fuqra mosque (Brooklyn, NY), Koran: 4:34, honor killings, the Alec file, Jamiyyat Ul-Islam, It's the Ideology Stupid,Tad-ru-bu-hu-nna, Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, UN Children's Fund, the Population Council - 2003 survey, m'uta, Haratines, Janjaweed, Dinka tribe, "Escape From Slavery", Toronto Sun online - "Slavery Lives in the Sudan", Middle East Forum - "The Problem with Slavery", Saudi Arabia Senior Council of Clerics, Human Rights Watch, Middle East Forum, Copts, Baha'i sect of Islam, "Islam : From Toleration to Terror", Hizb ut-Tahrir, Jyllands-Posten, "The Sum of All Fears", University of South Florida, Palistinian Islamic Jihad, "Future Jihad", Mosque Census Project, Eid al-Adha, Shahada, Mahram, FBI's Arab/Muslim Sikh American Advisory Committee, Higgins Center for Counterterrorism Research, Jamaat e-Islami, Samah, Tarbiya, Dar al-Arqam, SWICK, Policy-net
     
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    Well, dear, how about basing it on Sky News reporter Tim Marshall, who actually attended the event:

    http://blogs.news.sky.com/foreignmatters/Post:dcc9d723-8046-4857-b618-5c1135ba6417
     
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    Sorry, my foil hat is out for cleaning and without it I can not tune in all the correct answers white shutting out the waves.
    In any case if you are right, then by the looks of it this is a done deal and as they say, resistance is futile, you too will be assimilated.
     
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    Yeah ? How about him ? How is he supposed to know what's really going on when all the organizers of the event are lying about it ? (if they are) What is Tim Marshall, a psychic ? Did he follow all those people home ?
     
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    Many people already have been "assimilated" or harmed in various ways.
    Here's a few examples :

    1. Lina Morales (a Catholic) was fired from her job at a Muslim owned company for bringing a bacon, lettuce and tomato sandwich to work. Before that she was threatened for bringing a frozen pizza containing Canadian bacon/sausage.

    2. Major Stephen Coughlin was fired from his job as the Pentagon's top expert on Islamic law because a Muslim aide to the Deputy Defense Secretary (Gordon England-a Muslim ass-kisser) crabbed about Couglin's truthful writings about militant Islam.

    3. Students at Univ. of Michigan had to pay higher tuition, so that Muslims could have prayer rooms and footwashing basins installed.

    4. Blind people and others with dogs were refused taxi rides by Muslims who refused to accept passengers with dogs.

    5. People carrying alcoholic beverages were refused cab rides (even during the Christmas holidays) by Muslims refusing to accept them.

    6. Muslims refusing to obey safety rules (against head coverings) for riding on a roller coaster started a riot, where dozens of cops had to be called and numerous Muslims were arrested.

    7. Thousands of schoolkids were misinformed about Muslims presence in North America until the Arab World History Notebook was corrected of Muslim propaganda. Numerous other textbooks have been found to be deliberately written to falsely glorify Muslims.

    8. Talk show hosts have been forced to apologize to pushy Muslims demanding that talk be confined to pro-Muslim speech, because of spineless radio owners who feared lawsuits, and costs of it even if they won.

    9. Screwball imams on airplanes have blocked aisles and annoyed passengers with their loud yammering, during their prayer recitals.

    10. Thousands of praying Muslims have blocked traffic in New York City (a place with severe traffic headaches to begin with) and disregarded No Parking signs, when the ass lifters spilled out into the streets because of overpopulation at their mosques.

    This is just a small sample. The list goes on and on and on. Resistance is not futile though. In most cases, the Muslims lost the exchange and were forced to comply with the law. It's up to American citizens to inform themselves of what's happening, and be ready to stop Muslims when they attempt to ram their nutcake way of life down our throats (which is pretty much all the time).
     
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    1/2; I agree that a company should not be allowed to fire people just because they don't adhere to the owners' religious believes.....Though many Christians would have no problem with a Christians owned company firing Muslims.

    3; The Muslims students should have to pay for the additions themselves, and I would say the same thing about any Christian students who want Christian related rooms and additions built.

    4; Lots of non-Muslims taxi drivers do not allow pets as well. A cab passenger does not have the right to bring his pets along. A cab driver is a business owner, or at least an employee for a business. They have the right to refuse to pick up anyone they want. Dogs leave hair all over a vehicle and the drivers have to clean it up. I would not allow people to bring any pets into my vehicle if I was a cap driver.

    5; In my state, a driver can be given a ticket for having an open container in their vehicle, even if they are not the ones holding it. I see nothing wrong with not allowing open alcoholic beverages in the vehicles. Again, just like pets, it's the cab drivers right to refuse service to anyone. I know some Christian cab drivers who refuse service to Jews if they don't take off their yarmulke.

    6; I see many people who don't follow safety rules in theme parks. They refuse to take off sunglasses and jewelry, and hats all the time. It has nothing to do with religion. it's because they are stupid.

    7; There is lots of Christian propaganda forced in schools as well. For years, many school refused to teach the fact that Christian explorers like, Colombus, murdered anyone who refused to convert to Christianity, which is a fact.

    8; I have never seen that once on any tv or radio program that can be viewed as credible.

    9; Personally, I don't mind when someone practices their religion, and if you do, you should move away from America, because we have the freedom to practice any religion we want here..and if you don't like it go (*)(*)(*)(*) yourself.

    10; Most new yorkers pay little attention to traffic laws....that is one of the biggest problems about the city....Everyone is an (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*). Claiming that it's only Muslims makes you see even stupider than I already assume you are.
     
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    1. Who said anything about an open container ? I'm talking about bottles of licqour in holiday gift cartons where the box with a Christmas bow on top isn't even opened.

    2. So you see people who don't follow safety rules in theme parks. That's nice. What does that have to do with what I'm talking about ? I'm trying to get it into your thick skull that there is Islamization going on. Muslims who insist on things being done their way. Who insist that Americans change their American ways, and conform to those Muslims. Is this beginning to sink in ? This applies to every thing you just said.
     
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    1; Would you have a problem with a Christian cab driver refusing to allow a non christian to use their cab for the same reason as you claim muslims one refuse non-muslims? If not, then your opinion is meaningless, cause it's already biased...

    2; So it's ok for non-muslims to wear hats and other head coverings on roller coasters, but you have a problem with Muslims doing it.....
     
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    Your whole post here is the biggest pile of pure BULLSH-T I've ever seen.
    And Islam is not a religion, and even if it was, it is not protected under the 1st Amendment (as many things are not) because it is unconstitutionally in violation of the US Constitution (Article 6, section 2 AKA the Supremacy Clause). In case your schoolteachers forgot to tell you, no one (religions included) may put themselves supreme above the Constitution. Problem with Islam is, it does just that.

    And you're also full of sh-t about New Yorkers and traffic laws. I was born and raised in New York City, and lived there for 30 years. Drivers there observe traffic laws the same as anyone anywhere.

    You say > "Christian explorers like, Colombus, murdered anyone who refused to convert to Christianity, which is a fact." Since you call it a "fact" that means you can substantiate it with proof. Let's see that proof. Here/Now.
     
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    1. What a stupid question. Of course I would have a problem with it. Why wouldn't I ?

    2. Are you retarded ? Where did I say it was OK for "non-muslims to wear hats and other head coverings on roller coasters" ? Answer. Nowhere.
    Of course they can't wear hats - it's a safety violation. Problem with the Muslims is (as usual), they put their culture and their ways of doing things above American culture and rules and laws, and even have the gall to expect Americans to conform to their goofball practices.
     
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