Islam Has No Place in America

Unlike Islam, the ideologies that you mention, as they are organized in the US (ex. Communist Party USA), do not advocate destroying America, and abolishing the Constitution. In contrast, they stress DEMOCRACY as one of their prime positions. Thus, they are not viewed as supremacist.

http://www.cpusa.org/party-program/#3b

 

No, you cannot change my mind, because I am fully aware of this :

A religion is a system of belief or worship which includes a code of ethics. The Koran is a book of hatred, genocide, wife-beating, misogyny, pedophilia, and many more vile UNethical things. Exactly the opposite of a religion."

And because I am fully aware of this :


It's obvious how Islam came to be purported as a "religion". When the founders of it were espousing imperialist genocidal mass murder, extreme misogyny, rape, pedophilia, kidnapping/slavery, torture/mutilation, racial and sexist discrimination, animal cruelty/killing, and other vile things, and were looking for troops to join them in their conquests throughout Asia Minor, they needed something very powerful and extreme to offset and shield them from the severe condemnation they were sure to get.
The answer was religion. By pretending that the Koran, and all of its hatred and immorality was the word of God, they forced the people to accept it. After all, nobody wants to go against God do they ? As this grandiose con job spread, over time, it became deeper and deeper entrenched as a religion, and more and more difficult to abolish or reform.
And it spread only because the murderous Muslim marauders who spread it, killed 270 million people around the world to do that. Many, if not most, Muslims living today, trace their ancestry back to people who were non-Muslims and were forced to become Muslims. Hell of a way for someone to call himself a Muslim.

 

Google search (Islam - not a religion) >> 242 Million results.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&...d527eb822d82db0&bpcl=38625945&biw=925&bih=535

Here's just a few :

http://blogs.ssrc.org/tif/2010/07/28/islam-not-a-religion/

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/27211

http://loganswarning.com/2011/02/19/“allah-is-dead-–-why-islam-is-not-a-religion”/

http://catchkevin.com/islam-not-protected/

http://www.islam-watch.org/IW/aboutus.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0XQYteCu6E

http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2010/islam-and-the-definition-of-religion.html

Millions of people all around the world agree that Islam, of course, is NOT A RELIGION. SInce the 7th century, Billions of people have known that. It is very common to find people who share this view. When Islampologists come in here and pretend that this is not the case, all they do is make themselves look foolish, and reduce their credibility to ZERO (the same level as their knowledge of Islamization, as they show by their bewilderment when confronted with the Islamization Quiz, containing real knowledge of Islam at work in America and Europe).

These deluded people think that by coming into a thread and ganging up on one protectionist, they somehow show their
totally wrong views to be correct. All they do is demonstrate one more way in which they are wrong.

 

the supremacy clause has no relevance to your argument, and you come off as a whackjob when you continue to cite it for your arguments after having it pointed out to you.

 

how is the religous institution of islam trying to take away your free speech?

 

islam, judaism and christianity all share the same god of abraham. all three holy texts overlap. all three are religions. and the supremacy clause has nothing at all to do with any of them. everyone is well aware of who the fool is in this thread.

 

neither does the religion of islam.

 

no standard of ethics or morality is placed upon any religion in order to obtain religious status.

 

(realistic answer) ...you view of Islam is biased and based upon a truly irrational animus that few would be able to or seek to fathom. 99.9% of the rest of the world realizes and accepts that "Islam" is a RELIGION; it is reasonable to literally SAY that YOU ARE JUST PLAIN WRONG.

Now, we at least agree... that 'I' will not try to change your mind; and in turn, I'll continue to bat-down the bigotry you are trying to promote as "knowledge". (Got it?)

I'm not buying your BS and neither should anyone else.

 

Wow, you really got your head in the sand!

 

How is observation of Islam and the way Muslims conduct themselves constitute bigotry? Since when is telling the truth bigotry? Only to a rank Leftist to whom all truth is bigotry would this be the case.

 

So NOW in the final analysis, as this thread concludes, being over 500 posts already (I told you the Islamapologists would come out of the woodwork and throw their tantrums), let's see want can be done about the problem of Islamic supremacy, and its violation of the Constitution (Article 6, Section 2, the Supremacy Clause) as well as the Sedition law, US Code 2384, as well as the law > Advocating overthrow of Government, US Code 2385.

Here are some suggestions:

Outlaw the Muslim Brotherhood and all of its fronts groups as defined by the US Justice Dept (CAIR, ISNA, MSA, FCNA, NAIT, MAYA, AEF, UASR, IAP, HLF, BMI, IIIT, IMANA, AMSE, ICNA, Islamic Institute, AMC, AMC Foundation, Success Foundation, MAS, GSISS AKA Cordoba University, NAIF, IIFTIKHAR, AMSS, TIAA, IRO, African Muslim Agency, Safa Trust, SAAR Foundation, MMCT, Dar El-Eiman USA, ADAMS, IANA, GRF, MWL, WAMY, MYNA, HHT, Islamic Academy of Florida,
Fairfax Institute, AMTCRE, IIFSO, AMCE, AMAFVAC, CISNA, IMF, et al.)

Even if outlawed, the Muslim Brotherhood, through its fanaticism will likely continue to work "underground" similar to organized crime groups. One thing that is important is to recognize who they are and be sure to not do anything that would increase their strength. An example of this is keep far away from NAIT (North American Islamic Trust). Keeping a low profile, NAIT fronts as an investment bank, managing the financial accounts of most of the organizations in the Brotherhood network, and providing the capital that has helped the Islamofascist movement expand from college campuses to major cities, including Washington DC.

The Chicago-based trust is at the center of a broader scheme to create a parallel economic system in America, cpmplying with Sharia laws against interest, credit, and other "impure" Western finacial practices. The ultimate goasl is to Islamize the banking industry and Wall Street. This is part of the "grand jihad" mandated in the Muslim Brotherhood's primary manifesto (the Explanatory Memorandum) uncovered by the FBI, and now declassified after its exhibition in the US vs Holy Land Foundation trial. Deep inside the 18 page document is a section calling for an "Islamic Central Bank", and an organization for interest free loans.

A letter intercepted by (I think it was) Chris Gaubatz, when working undercover at CAIR (and later published in the book Muslim Mafia) from one of the boxes of files that CAIR had marked for shredding, provides clues. I reveals a strategic partnership between NAIT and CAIR to bully publicly traded American firms to conform to Sharia rules or face punishments (shareholder resolutions, divestments, boycotts). And these rules are ? In accordance with Islamic law (putting itself SUPREME above American law and the Constitution), it forbids any business dealing in >> conventional Western banking, alchoholic beverages, pork products, tobacco, Western aerospace & defense, movie production & theaters, music, hotels & casinos, any other entertainment, business with Israel.

In a letter written by Omar Haydar (director of fund operations for the NAIT subsidiary Allied Asset Advisors, Inc., to CAIR's national operations director, Khalid Iqbal, Haydar outlined his plan to destroy Wall Street, or at least Islamize it.
After mentioning some 400 US equities held by NAIT (a few eaxamples > Walgreens, Cisco, Exxon-Mobil), Haydar laid out his MO plan, to bully firms into adopting Sharia finance. It would work as follows :

1. Pressure the matter quietly through their public relations/press office.

2. Draft shareholder resolution.

3. Submit resolution as a shareholder, for annual shareholder meeting.

4. Issue press release statement on stance and issue.

5. Divest holdings and pressure Dow Jones to remove company from index with your assistance.

Patrick Sookhdeo, a London scholar and Sharia finance expert, says such pressure tactics have worked frighteningly well for the Brotherhood in Britain, which has become a mecca for Sharia finance, while suffering rapid Islamization.

Together with this business world offense, Brotherhood front groups are hard at work lobbying Congress and the Treasury Dept. to change banking rules to accomodate Islamic financing principles in you name it (stock investments, mortgages, insurance, etc) The Treasury Dept, like the rest of the Obama administration leans well toward them, if not has them working there themselves.

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...-obama-administration-muslim-brotherhood.html

http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...tories-than-patreus-bur-no-press-why-not.html

http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/273673-youre-not-ready-vote-if-you-dont-know-about.html

 

no, I just haven't detached myself from reality like some in this thread.

 

the supremacy clause has no relevance to your argument. the religion of islam is protected by the first amendment, just like judaism, christianity, hinduism, satanism etc.............

 

Continue ? HA HA HA HA !! You haven't batted down a doggone thing up to now, and THAT is what will continue in the future. I don't care how many Islamapologists and Islamists come in here and try to squash the truth, YOU CAN"T DO THAT. Because the truth will be stated,a nd people will see it and know it, and I will continue to do THAT.

 

Actually, you have. You're dangerously naive. You're the type that lets the alligator play with the chickens and then is shocked every time a chicken disappears in a cloud of feathers.

 

Do you know any Muslims?

I always wonder about people who have never lived in the Arab world who make such idiotic statements.

 

Or he's one of the ones (AKA Islamists) who PRETEND to be shocked.

 

No. Some people just know how you push the "crazy" aside, so that they might maintain a functional view of reality. That's all it is. You and others saying crazy things, bucking up against a reasonable view or what Islam is... might as well go to the beach and bang your heads in the sand.

Just GET REAL please.

 

OFF TOPIC !! This thread is about America, not "the Arab world".

 

You want "REAL" ? See post # 512 (including the links)

 

This post is being reported to the forum for repetition of content. And this is not your first offense doing this.

The fact that you repeat yourself over & over, like a parrot, shows you have nothing to say. You're just throwing around talking points you've been fed. Want to debate in this forum ? You think you have what it takes ? Or any of the rest of you Islamapologists ?

Then respond to Post # 512 about NAIT and CAIR, and the rest of the Muslim Brotherhoods grand jihad plan. What do you have to say about THAT ?

 

Someone said this in post #1:

While I think that is ludicrous overall and MOST sane people know better, you for some reason have gone afar from the reality most people have grounded their feet upon.

I've heard many things in my lifetime, things worth checking out, studying. But for Pete's sake, the LUDICROUS premise in post #1 isn't hard to reject immediately and completely (with little more than a 3rd grade education).

I'm virtually certain that the rhetoric shared in post #1 was created to promote irrational animus toward Muslim people in the world. And I don't think people should do much but REJECT it out of hand. Anything else is a waste of time and likely opens the door to various evils I'd rather not list.

 

Your intellectual ship sunk, back at post #1. (Ha-Ha... indeed.)

 

No. You cannot promote bigotry and distortions of reality, and expect reasonable people to get anything out of it.

Is Islam a 'religion' or not?