Israel Admitted Some of the Festival Attendees Killed by the IDF and not Hamas

https://globaleuronews.com/2023/11/...al-attendees-killed-by-the-idf-and-not-hamas/

No surprise there.
I would not be surprised if it soon turns out that the Hamas attack on Israel was also organized by the Israeli government.
The publicized and all-seeing eye of Mossad has this time overlooked the training of Hamas militant units. Who have been practicing on a specially designed training ground for two years.
Or the border of the Gaza Strip, which has minefields and is monitored around the clock, where the military is alerted even when a pigeon, a stork or a lizard violates the border, this time did not see Hamas militants on mopeds and tractors? Do you believe that?
And now it turns out that the music festival attendees were also shot by the Israeli military.
The pilot was supposedly confused. Are there idiots in the Israeli army? Or are the helicopters in Israel flown by monkeys?

 

I thought there was a tinfoil hat section for things like this. There is always the possibility of friendly fire during chaos. Are these comments supposed to make Israelis look bad?

 

Wow.

So along with the tank shelling and IDF crossfire victims, we have an Apache helicopter gunning down the ravers..

 

Big deal. Mistakes happen in war time

 

I'm not sure you realise the magnitude of this, if its accurate.

Or maybe you're not particularly interested in this region generally, so my bad if that's true.

 

This is the Pro-Israeli playbook.

1. It didn't happen
2. It did happen but Hamas did it - not Israel.
3. Ok, ok, Hamas didn't do it but it was an accident and Israel didn't mean to do it. Israel does evil things on accident and Hamas does evil on purpose.
4. Alright, Israel did in fact do it on purpose but it's been decades and nobody reads books anymore so nobody will care.
5. Why are we still talking about this? Are you and anti-semetic Holocaust denier?

 

Ones level of interest has nothing to do with accuracy.

 

Hey Bob. None of that supports the claim. Do you have anything more reliable? (that does not violate forum rules)

 

Hey Doof, can you point out you demanded the same evidence for 40 beheaded babies, gang rapes, etc. Or are you really biased for Israel?

You've got a video, You've got the Hebrew article claiming the Apache's were attacking within an hour firing nonstop, and reloading many times. You've got a ton of burned out cars with the charred remains within.

What do you need?

However, you don't need any proof for 40 beheaded babies, gang rapes, etc. That Doofen just takes by faith that Hamas must have done it.

Even Esau gives leeway for possible inaccuracy.

And I said nothing of the accuracy. But at the same time I'm not a mindless moron or a Satan-worshiper who simple screams "It must be Hamas."

How many 6-year-old Palestinian children do posters want stabbed to death from the hate they foment?

 

Wrong.

 

OMG..

you really nailed that one!

 

The whole picture is becoming increasingly muddy, one must admit.

It's just not as black and white as the naysayers portray, imo.

From the phone footage I'm just not seeing hamas gunning down innocents, what iam seeing is them apprehending all civilian Israelis in the midst of heavy crossfire.

 

All of these unfortunate fatalities are the result of Hamas fighters not wearing uniforms and using civilians as human shields. Israel has every right and indeed responsibility to defend and protect the lives of their citizens. The IDF is not confused about their primary responsibility. And will investigate any wrong doing which is their legal responsibility.

 

^^

Bob, on point as usual.

 

The reality is that Hamas us responsible.

 

There is no evidence of Hamas fighters using civilians as human shields.

Lots of evidence exists of Israel using human shields.





Now mind you, these photos are dangerous to obtain since Israel is known for assassinating and murdering journalists.

 

Do you really support self-defense or only government sanctioned murder?

 

A REAL Jew, one who is Torah observant will admit it was Israel's own fault that this happened. (7/10/2023)

P.s idont expect you to understand this if you are not a religious person.

 

There is decades of such evidence.

 

30 plus so far and that was last week's total.

 

Who cares. Israel has an obligation and responsibility to protect their citizens from attacks from Hamas.

 

That’s ridiculous.

 

It's important for observant Jews. Imean, there is no such thing as a secular Jew, right?

 

That guy killed it.

 

The IDF is protecting the lives of Israeli citizens. That is a liberal democracy state responsibility. It has nothing to do with religion.