Israel Admitted Some of the Festival Attendees Killed by the IDF and not Hamas

One marine has an opinion which he is entitled to. Hamas is the aggressor. And the state of Israel is defending its citizens.

 

Really?

 

Nope.

Here's a book to read about it.

 

Probably no one is particularly interested because Russian propaganda sources are highly suspect.

 

So you're denying the Holocaust?

 

Yes really.

 

Propaganda.

 

It is pretty muddy.

From what I can tell, Hamas attacked the Israeli military and the Israeli military border forces caved immediately. This meant that other Palestinians some who were members of other militant groups. as well as civilians briefly poured out of Gaza after finding out the concentration camp walls were breeched. This is where you get pictures of completely unarmed Gaza's standing on top of defeated Israeli tanks. Those weren't Hamas.

So who did what when is a question mark. Seeing the high proportion of deaths of armed combatants, Hamas was obviously focusing on military targets.

Most of the children listed as dead on the "Israeli" side died due to rockets and not Hamas gunfire. Now, I'm having to mostly take Israel word for it so who fired those rockets and why they ended up killing mostly Palestinian children is something to investigate.

Regardless, Israel set up the concentration camp and then blamed the concentration camp for rebelling.

 

So you admit you're just making stuff up.

 

Not according to the op..

 

Are you denying 10,000 dead palestinians?

 

The OP describes an incident in which the IDF was defending it's citizens against attack from Hamas. And therefore Hamas is responsible for any deaths which may have happened. The Israeli government will/has investigated the incident.

 

Ad-hominem

 

Not according to the op and it's already been documented that Israelis have a Hannibal directive, kill any Israeli on sight if they are captured.

This is bad

 

Yep, just stand aside and let the Israeli government handle it.

 

Anyone with half a brain understands that the Gaza Strip is not a concentration camp. It is a self governing entity controlled and governed by the terrorist organization Hamas who is waging a homicidal war against the citizens of Israel. Hamas cares nothing about the citizens of Israel (obviously) and also care nothing about the women and children living in the Gaza Strip. They launch rockets and mortars from civilian zones in Gaza into civilian zones in Israel. The IDF fires back in defense of their citizens. Why doesn't Hamas launch from zones free of Gaza women and children?

 

The OP is propaganda. It is a lie purported by an anti Israel news organization who does not believe that Israel has a right to defend and protect its citizens.

 

Not only is Gaza a concentration camp but the biggest palestinian population is in West bank where Israelis enact an apartheid type regime, whereby Arabs are forcibly evicted from their homes at gunpoint by white settlers, much like what the afrikkkaners did to the Xhosa.

 

That's what liberal democracies do. And that is what international law prescribes. When is the last time that Hamas investigated any incidents in which rockets and mortars were fired into Israeli citizen zones?

Reagan's words are not applicable in this situation.

 

That's ridiculous. Israel left Gaza decades ago. They have no capability to control how Gaza is governed. They do however have the right to blockade Gaza in order to prevent arms, rockets, and other weapons from entering Gaza via the sea. They do not have any control over the southern border of Gaza and Egypt.

 

so why did the IDF allegedly kill so many Israelis?

 

Allegedly.

 

Ok, let's test this out.

Were the residents of this "not-a-concentration-camp" allowed to leave and enter freely?

Did the residents of this "not-a-concentration-camp" have control over the identity papers or did Israel?

Did the residents of this "not-a-concentration-camp" have the ability to trade with whomever it chose?

Did the residents of this "not-a-concentration-camp" have control over its own water and electric system as well as the right to build and improve them?

Did the residents of this "not-a-concentration-camp" have the ability to import as much fuel and building material as it wanted?

Did the residents of this "not-a-concentration-camp" have the freedom to protest and not be shot?

 

You deny any Israelis were killed by IDF?

 

What you describe is not a liberal democracy. You describe a racist socialist nightmare.

Israel is a socialist country based on the "Jewish" tribe. The government owns the means of production and only the Israeli "Jews" are allowed the full benefit of this production.

Once again, Israel is a socialist country. Many socialists including North Korea and the Nazis consider themselves to be a Democracy.

This is why intelligent, educated U.S. citizens know that their country will only work as a Constitutional Representative Republic - not a democracy. Democracy is evil. Democracy destroys the rights of individuals and results in Mob rule which eventually leads to totalitarianism. The U.S. Constitution is all about restricting government to allow the freedom of individuals.

I'm hoping you're a European.