Israel comes under heavy rocket fire from Gaza, suspected terror infiltration

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  1. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    She also said "the world has seen the pictures of the beheaded babies"

    No lie. She actually said this ..
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, I totally respect REAL black Jews. There are hundreds of thousands in Israel. But REAL black Jews dont go around claiming they are the only true legit Jews.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so she is a liar and a fool.
     
  4. Esau

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    The only black Jews that the WJE respect are ones who dress in polish garb and adhere to Yiddish customs. Black Jews in America don't acknowledge the WJE for these reasons.
     
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    She is the Israeli spokesperson. Her words reflect ALL OF ISRAELIS.

    this is why opinions are split on who is in the right and wrong and who is the good and evil. Those are evil comments that accompany evil actions like blowing up hospitals and killing 300 innocent ppl in Gaza.
     
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    For one, the Zulu never had any chance to acquire nuclear and biological weapons in their endeavors to retake power, and if that possibility existed, the situation would have dramatically escalated my curiosity.

    If South Africa had nukes, I would be very interested in the statements and ideology of anyone assuming control of them, because as a human, I want to live. If I'm indifferent to a group, who openly profess me as an enemy, acquiring the capability to kill me at their discretion, I don't have a good survival instinct.

    As an American, I have an interest in the fate of Israel's weapons in the unlikely event (right now) of a collapse of the Israeli security state. I'm aware of an effort by multiple countries and nongovernmental organizations, to varying extents or degrees at different times, over the decades, to destabilize the Israeli security state.

    Our leaders' jobs are to let these outside actors know, this isn't like Iraq, Afghanistan, or Vietnam. This is existential to the US. We aren't going to allow any actor to upset the balance against the Israelis; your efforts will be in vain over the long term.
     
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    Which has nothing to do with What Israelis are doing is no different to what happening South Africa. For 20 years nobody spoke out in Europe, then finally the "free Nelson Mandela" movement gained traction. Eventually the South African "terrorists" were praised as heroes and the Zulu fought back and gained back their country and freedom.

    There is really no difference atm. Israelis have to come up with a genius plan if they don't want to go down in history as just another afrikkkaner white supremacist state.

    So why quote me?
     
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    100% false, made up silliness.
     
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    she is one of 165 official Israeli foreign representatives.

    once in a while you get a bad apple, she is one.
     
  10. Esau

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    The only black Jews in your country (USA) that you respect are the ones that follow your Yiddish tradition. Fact
     
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    They are all like her.
     
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    So you're saying all Jews are alike?

    LOL!!!
     
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    She is their ambassador to THE UK.

    you don't understand the brevity of this, clearly.
     
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    do you want Hamas to kill her?
     
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    Because as I said, there is a major difference. I'm trying to do what I believe Putin was doing before the Ukraine invasion when he was basically saying that if you continue to ignore that this is an existential threat to a great power, and you continue to push your own narratives as to what should guide action on the situation (and I agree with you the situation the Palestinians have been put in by this conflict is tragic, disgraceful, and in need of rapid remedy) only escalation and death follow.

    The Biden administration didn’t seem to understand the concept of existential threat to a great power. I would beg of Israel's enemies not to make the same mistake, before this escalates into something horrendous, that nonetheless, the US will end.
     
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    You don't seem to understand that Putin is full of ****.
     
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    You can keep telling yourself that the Russians continue to hold in Ukraine because they are evil. It's not going to change the fact that that's not why a few hundred thousand people have died there, and it's not why Russians are fighting. I can see clearly that these people feel they are under existential threat. They also have great power. Therefore, when I just dismiss their motivations without consideration, there is high potential I'm going to get a lot of people killed.
     
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    Don't waste my time with straw man arguments. The Russians in Ukraine are a mix of Soviet-minded imperialists who believe the crap that Putin feeds them, mercenaries earning good money, and poor conscripts who have little choice in the matter.

    Putin himself is arguably evil because he does not care about human life and is throwing it away in droves to achieve his personal ambitions and avoid being deposed.
     
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    Israel blames Palestinian Islamic Jihad for explosion at Gaza hospital

    The Israeli military issued another statement Tuesday saying that “intelligence information” indicated that the deadly explosion at the hospital in Gaza was caused by a failed rocket launched by Palestinian Islamic Jihad, a Hamas-aligned Islamist group in Gaza.

    According to the statement from the Israel Defense Forces, its intelligence analysis shows a barrage of rockets fired by militants in Gaza passed in close proximity to the hospital at the time of the strike.​

    Live updates: https://news.yahoo.com/israel-hamas-war-live-updates-humanitarian-aid-gaza-strip-124334532.html
     
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    Hamas Hijacked Victims’ Social Media Accounts to Spread Terror
    Sheera Frenkel and Talya Minsberg
    Tue, October 17, 2023 at 1:16 PM CDT

    Shortly after Hamas attacked Israel on Oct. 7, friends and relatives of Gali Shlezinger Idan, who lived in a kibbutz near the Gaza border, received frantic messages to check her Facebook page.

    What they found shocked them. Hamas members were using Idan’s Facebook account to livestream themselves holding her and her family hostage. During the 43-minute broadcast, gunmen forced Idan and her family to crouch on a tile floor as missiles and gunfire blasted their building.

    “I couldn’t believe what I was seeing,” said Keren de Via, a friend of the Idan family who watched Idan’s children hug their parents and cry during the livestream. “How could we watch them terrorize the family like this? How could I watch this on Facebook?”

    ... https://news.yahoo.com/hamas-hijacked-victims-social-media-181636480.html

    Good old Facebook.
     
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    Israel have missiles that can bring down 20 storey blocks to rubble. Hamas rockets can't bring down a wooden box. Highly likely that the hospital was hit by an Israeli missile.
     
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    South Africa had nukes. It's one of the characteristics of an apartheid government.
     
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    Well we do have American hostages involved.
     
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    Anytime you mention Israel.
     
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    Hyphenated Americans aren't Americans in my opinion even if they may have bought a way for them to legally call themselves such.
     
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