Israel is National Socialist

There are two primary aspects to National Socialism.

The first is a state established by and for a race, The following is from the nation-state law of Israel: "The right to exercise national self-determination in the State of Israel is unique to the Jewish people." The fact that Israel is based on race is well-established.

The second is state ownership of property. 93% of Israel is owned and directly controlled by the state of Israel. This is a pretty easily verifiable fact.

So why would anyone object to calling Israel National Socialist?

 

What race is that?

 

The ADL? Or maybe AIPAC?

 

Because it is an obvious reference to Nazis and would likely be said only for that reason? Though I suppose context could make a difference.

 

You do realize that one can become a Jew by converting to Judaism right. There are Jews in Israel who happen to be black.

 

One of these days I hope lefties can learn the simple difference between RACE and RELIGION

 

The simple difference being that there is no such thing as "race". Except in politics. And the concept is only kept alive by the influence of white supremacists.

However, there are MORE genetic similarities within the Jewish population throughout the world than within people everywhere who identify as black. That has NOTHING to do with "race" but with religious restrictions in the past of Jews being allowed to marry other Jews, and the traditional difficulty to convert to the Jewish religion.

Having said that, the idea that this makes Israel "National Socialist" is absurd.

 

That is an emotional rather than a rational viewpoint.

 

Dude white nationalism is nothing more than a convenient leftist trope to make sure black people continue to vote Democrat. It has little to no real existence out side of the leftist circle jerks where the norm is an attempt prove that you are the least white. It's all stupid on steroids.

 

You're saying this from the fictional viewpoint which believes all religions are the same. In reality, religions are not the same.

There are global religions like Islam and Christianity and there are national religions like Judaism and Hinduism.

Hinduism is interesting because if you ask what it means to be Hindu, a Hindu would respond being Indian. The culture and the religion are one and the same. This is why the conversion of a Hindu to Christianity is considered illegal with actual anti-conversion laws on the book.

So, in national religions there is not a difference between religion and race. Just read the Pentateuch.

 

Ethno-nationalism

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/jun/12/what-does-it-mean-to-be-genetically-jewish

Not race.

Jewish is both a ethnic and religious as their culture and religious views put a lot in heritage passed down through generations as God's chosen people.

They are extremely resistant to assimilation in the cultures they live in. Ethnicity is religiously important to them.

 

Very true. Race was and always has been a social cultural and political construct to justify all sorts of things - usually evil.

Ever heard of La Raza?

I guess not.

The restriction on Jews marrying non-jews is in the present and the law in Israel . . .

https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...s-law-barring-palestinian-spouses-2022-03-10/

A response not based on any stated facts.

 

Ethno-nationalism = race.

https://www.nationalgeographic.co.u...scientific-basis-for-race-its-a-made-up-label

 

White nationalists like to think that but they are wrong. The are not Ethno-nationalists. They are just racists.

Ethnicity has a basis in shared heritage and the passing down of culture, soil, and industry, paid by the work and blood, sweat, and tears of ones forefathers. And is real.

Race is based on shared looks and is baseless but originally shared a similar concept of breeding.

 

Have you told the Israeli's?

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...-60-days/0000017f-e723-da9b-a1ff-ef6f82f60000

https://www.forbes.com/sites/elisek...ant-women-with-birth-control/?sh=375b60d267b8

Seriously though, they are dramatically ostracized from the rest of the Nation. While I'd rathe be an African Israeli than a Palestinian any day of the week in Israel, but the redlining laws are in full effect.

Israeli's can declare anyone they want a Jew if it serves the needs of the state. Just like Emil Maurice and many others.

 

Where did you get that from? Where did I say "all religions are the same"? STRANGE!

No , sorry, there's a difference. You can't just change the definition of something when you feel like it. **finger snap** time to get back to reality. Also, shame on you for trying to group all people form India into ONE religion. Yes, most of them have the identical one but they are not all the same (Sheesh, what do you lefties have against INDIVIDUALITY? always trying to group people like they are some kind of product or something). Sad!

 

Hitler would agree except he would call ethnicity, race.

You're using doublespeak to try to avoid a difficult truth. Don't you think that someone said my wife doesn't look Jewish, don't take her away? Do you think it mattered?

 

Where did I say that you said that?

 

Where did I change the definition of something?

 

Calling them National Socialists is an emotional rather than rational tactic.

 

Shaming me for something I didn't do.

Yes, true. Doesn't discount what I said though.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...s-and-national-identities-are-closely-linked/

Using this logic, you believe most of India are lefties?

BTW, I don't ascribe to a national religion, so I have nothing against individuality. However, National Socialist states definitely do oppose individuality such as an individual right to life and property.

 

So why do most Ashkenazi say they are the lineal descendants of the biblical ISRAELITES if as you say "anybody can become Jewish"?

 

I'm pointing out who they are. One can't solve a situation if one does not know who one is dealing with. A very rational approach

 

The israeli govt would rather accept white Jewish ppl though since their duel citizenship would allow the Israeli govt to call on the support of their original nation (UK, USA etc) in terms of cash and tech.

 

What difficult truth? You are the one who is having emotional difficulties over something. I just stated facts.