Israel is under massive Palestinian terror attacks

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  1. MGB ROADSTER

    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    The Palestinian terror wave continues !
    2 knife attacks .. the victims included a 71 year old man and an 80 year old woman
    Palestinians are the source of violence in the Middle East !!
     
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    Yes stick to fact

    For the entire day of April 9, 1948, Irgun and LEHI soldiers carried out the slaughter in a cold and premeditated fashion...The attackers ‘lined men, women and children up against the walls and shot them,’...The ruthlessness of the attack on Deir Yassin shocked Jewish and world opinion alike, drove fear and panic into the Arab population, and led to the flight of unarmed civilians from their homes all over the country.” Israeli author, Simha Flapan, “The Birth of Israel.”


    “Joseph Weitz was the director of the Jewish National Land Fund...On December 19, 1940, he wrote: ‘It must be clear that there is no room for both peoples in this country...The Zionist enterprise so far...has been fine and good in its own time, and could do with ‘land buying’ — but this will not bring about the State of Israel; that must come all at once, in the manner of a Salvation (this is the secret of the Messianic idea); and there is no way besides transferring the Arabs from here to the neighboring countries, to transfer them all; except maybe for Bethlehem, Nazareth and Old Jerusalem, we must not leave a single village, not a single tribe’...There were literally hundreds of such statements made by Zionists.” Edward Said, “The Question of Palestine.”

    Notice who said this.


    This was of course following by the bulldozing of many villages

    Community from someone who obviously doesn't know what racit is. Talking about what someone has done and pointing it out does not make you racist.

    Racists-person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.

    2nd

    A group of people identified as distinct from other groups because of supposed physical or genetic traits shared by the group. Most biologists and anthropologists do not recognize race as a biologically valid classification, in part because there is more genetic variation within groups than between them.

    The whole notion of race is bogus.

    3rd Jew is not a race. It's a culture.


    4th talking about something that a group of people did wrong does not make you racist.


    What world do you live?
     
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    You still fail to provide evidence. And you are still ducking and doging


    You should look at the people who said those quotes I posted instead of judging the person who wrote the article. EVERYONE is biased. Isn't there a word for that

    An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is an attack on an argument made by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, rather than attacking the argument directly
    You still provide no evidence to support your counter claim.

    This seems to be your specialty

    0 credibility

    For all of your other unanswered questions, you will find that the reading covers it all.


    This makes me think that you are so close minded that you complete disregarded it. Why again? Because some pro Zionist called her racist for speaking out against them?

    People these day.


    I believe in fact. You provided none.
     
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    A world both of the denial of recorded and documented history and reflexive support for Zionism. Anything critical of Israel is 'garbage'. Anything critical of Muslims anywhere is worshipped.
     
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    You're in full troll mode now. Welcome to the ignore bin.
     
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    And being from the most evil country on earth and pretending to have the right to pass judgements on others nation, that my friend is what makes UK poster replies garbage. No amount of handwringing or screaming about the USA or the Zionist will ever change that.
     
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    Where are you from that you feel it appropriate to point the finger from? I'm quite prepared, as I often have done, to criticise my country's history. You, on the other hand, defend Israel at all costs and no criticism is permitted by anyone else. That, old chum, is called dishonesty.
     
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    I'm from Canada, the French part, you know the part that you screwed... As for you, no you never criticize your own (*)(*)(*)(*) instead you sidestep it and blames other of doing worst or doing now. Take the Mossadegh nonsense that was a purely UK move to protect her oil hegemony in the region.

    It is funny to see British accused others of doing so and so in the past 70 years while they did it themselves for over 500 years and built their country on the blood and bones of others. You were fed with the grains and produce from others, your ship were built with lumbers that belonged to other, you were dressed with linen that you deprived others from. You enslaved and exploited millions in India and Africa. You also made a mess in China. So forgive me if I take any accusation from UK resident with a big dose of scepticism and quite a few shovel of salt.
     
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    Mossadegh nonsense? Are you suggesting that the CIA did not orchestrate the coup despite their published admission? I already stated that Britain played a role and I have never shrunk from criticising Britain. It's about time you applied some of that same honesty but no, that would involve something called 'integrity'. You might be familiar with the concept. Then again maybe not...
    Oh, and by the way, after the Iranian coup the US and Britain split the oil proceeds between BP the US and eight European oil companies. Hardly the action of a country bent on hegemony.
     
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    The uk was the driving factor. The USA wrote check and provided propaganda. And all was done at the behest of the uk petroleum industry. You are also misrepresenting Mossadegh as some kind of saint. The guy was about to scrap the Iranian constitution and install himself as president for life under the thumb OS the Soviet Union.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre#Propaganda

    "The Jordanian newspaper Al Urdun published a survivor's account in 1955, which said the Palestinians had deliberately exaggerated stories about atrocities in Deir Yassin to encourage others to fight, stories that had caused them to flee instead."

    "They ran away from all our villages."[62] He told Larry Collins in 1968: "We committed a fatal error, and set the stage for the refugee problem."[65] A villager known as Haj Ayish stated that "there had been no rape". He questioned the accuracy of the Arab radio broadcasts which "talked of women being killed and raped", and instead believed that "most of those who were killed were among the fighters and the women and children who helped the fighters".[66] Mohammed Radwan, one of the villagers who fought the attackers, said: "There were no rapes. It's all lies. There were no pregnant women who were slit open. It was propaganda that ... Arabs put out so Arab armies would invade. They ended up expelling people from all of Palestine on the rumor of Deir Yassin."[67] Radwan added "I know when I speak that God is up there and God knows the truth and God will not forgive the liars."[67] "

    One that is fact-based, unlike yours, where nonsense claims like "all the violence was from the jews" take place.
     
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    So what? Persia's internal politics had nothing to do with the West-except, of course, when they threatened Western interests. Those 'interests' were 'our oil under their soil'.
     
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    Show us your posts where you were critical of muslims, those that were critical of iran and syria. I've yet to see any, despite most terrorism today being conducted by muslims, iran being the world's #1 sponsor of terrorism, and syria/assad slaughtering 300K people. Yet all we see are your relentless attacks on jews/Israel/US.
     
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    ...or ignores it. That poster is the first to attack israel for alleged racism, but refused to post in my thread about arab muslim racism, which is conducted on an immensely greater scale. No surprise there.
     
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    "The Irgun and Lehi wanted to frighten the Arabs into fleeing", (from your piece). One anecdotal news report quoting one Arab does not constitute the truth. But keep clutching at those straws.
     
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    So where is YOUR criticism of iran's overthrow of yemen's democratically elected government? Where is YOUR criticism of iranian interference in the functioning of the lebanese government? Where is YOUR criticism of iran's interference in the bahrain government? Where is YOUR criticism of iran's interference in the iraqi government?

    Yet you attack others for being one sided.
     
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    I have always condemned terrorism wherever it emerges. Do your own research of my posts; I'm not here to hold your hand.

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    This thread principally concerns Israel and Palestine. If you want me to comment on other matters feel free to open a thread.
     
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    Sorry dear, but that article is sourced from ARAB MUSLIM interviews.

    Keep attacking the source, it is doing wonders for your collapsing credibility.

    Here's some more sources, which you'll no doubt complain about as well:

    http://www.jewishpost.com/archives/news/dr-uri-milstein-dir-yassin-massacre-was-a-hoax.html

    http://www.dafka.org/news/index.php?pid=4&id=528
     
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    Yes, Israeli sources are naturally without bias and completely unimpeachable. How about Sabra and Shatila; were those massacres, facilitated by Israel, a "hoax" also?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre#Israeli_Kahan_commission
     
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    No you don't, and certainly not by muslims - and I've never seen you do anything BUT justify terrorism against Israeli jews.

    And you've never had an issue bringing israel into threads about other topics, all of a sudden remaining "on topic" is so critical for you?

    Here you go:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=431013&p=1065514524#post1065514524

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    Can't help but laugh when the jew-haters/Israel haters have to dig into their propaganda box to pull out Sabra and Shatila when their ammo box runs out; why don't you list for us how many arab muslims did jews kill that day....oh that's right - they didn't.

    But in your world, if something bad happens, a jew must have caused it somehow.

    By the way, its so cute how you attack Israeli sources for a lack of credibility - AND THEN USE AN ISRAELI COMMISSION'S FINDINGS to discuss Sabra and Shatila, just so, so hilarious.
     
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    Kahan was not journalism.
     
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    It was an ISRAELI source, which you latched onto - despite whining one post up about how Israeli sources are not acceptable. You are a HYPOCRITE.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel
    18,900 Rocket attacks made by Palestine since 2001. If the UK or the USA were hit by 18,900 rockets we would have run over a country by now. Personally I think Israel has done a pretty good job restraining themselves. If my neighbor fired 18,900 rockets into my yard I would surely kill him. According to this from 1985 to 2011 only 7,978 Palestinians have died to direct action by the Israeli military. Israel has lost 1503 people. So the narrative that Israel is mass slaughtering people is a false one. They kill an average of 300 people a year over the last 26 year (Not including 2012-Present)
     
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    Israeli media sources, like most media sources, all have a degree of partiality and need to be viewed with circumspection just like any journalistic reporting must. The Kahan Commission was not journalism and was as near impartial as you could get. Why is this so hard for you to figure out?

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/kahan.html
     
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    Rockets? They are not much more dangerous than fireworks. How about we compare Israeli deaths and injuries from these bottle rockets with those resulting from Israel's wholly disproportionate response (in the context of 'Cast Lead' even America condemned Israel)? Or would that be uncomfortable for you?

    From your link: "One joint Israeli-European study (2009) concluded that Israel is responsible for 79% of disruption of the lull in hostilities, while Hamas and other factions were responsible for 8% of such violations.
     
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