Israel - Palestine peace talks

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  1. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    Le Pen is respected? He is a Nazi apologist and Holocaust denialist for which he has several convictions.. Interesting sentiment from a Jew! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Marie_Le_Pen#Prosecution_concerning_Holocaust_denial
    He has also been accused of war crimes, including torture. He unsuccessfully sued various organisations against these allegations. But he is "respected", apparently! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Marie_Le_Pen#Allegations_of_war_crimes_in_Algeria
     
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    Nooooooooooooooo the majority are uneducated and they trumpet the garbage that they have been brainwashed with from crib to maturity...
     
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    ARE THESE THE PEOPLE WHO WILL KEEP A PEACE TREATY WITH ISRAEL?



    AN ANALYSIS OF OUR NEIGHBORS


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTsWSpGOWOg?
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    You didn't address the issue !! Again !!
    You took one word and twisted the subject.
    In 2007 they counted 53.7 million Muslims in Europe , today there are probably 70 Millions.
    Even if only 1.5% are illegal it's more than a Million !! ( some officials say 50% are illegal )
    Your answer indicates you addmitt there are more than 1 million illegal Muslims in Europe.

    I bet some Arabs voted for him.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Which 'officials'? If they're illegal how would they know how many there are? I have "admitted" nothing, so don't go putting words in my mouth.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    like always, you have no evidence.
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    In your opinion NONE of the 70 Million Muslims in Europe are illegal ???
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Sorry pal, you made the assertion so the burden of proof is on you to provide more than your just an opinion. By the way, you're not English, so prove to me that you're not in Britain illegally. See how this works?
     
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    You make me laugh... The USA is a right winger whatever you said about them... but the Le Pen walks with a halo on his head... You have to check what motivates you to think that way... I am not a psychiatrist but in my opinion you need help.
     
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    Do you have a problem understanding clear English? Where have I said anything but condemn Le Pen for his anti-Semitism or his criminal convictions?
    You need help with English comprehension. Now go away and read my post again.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you keep making baseless claims but refuse to ever support them.

    what percent of Muslims in Europe are illegal immigrants?
     
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    Don't answer a question with a question.
    In your opinion NONE of the 70 Million Muslims in Europe are illegal ???
     
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    what percent of them are illegal?
     
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    Only tiny tiny 1.25% ?
     
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    got evidence?
     
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    you're the one making the claim, not me.

    you have the burden of proof.
     
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    The Palestinians have officially suspended a fourth round of direct peace talks with Israel in protest of killing three Palestinians earlier Monday (Aug 26). The Palestinians were killed during clashes with Israeli soldiers who stormed Qalandya refugee camp in northern Ramallah.

    Some years ago, I had predicted in this forum that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict (or Arab-Israeli conflict) could never be totally resolved. The conflict dates back to Biblical times -- almost four thousand years ago.

    The conflict began when God told Abraham to leave his homeland, Ur Kasdim, and go "to a land that I will show thee." Abraham had such great faith and trust in God that he left his home and community. He was reassured by the divine promise, "I will bless you, and make your name great, so that you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, and him who curses you I will curse; and by you all the families of the earth shall bless themselves" (Genesis 12:2-3).

    Another of the many factors affecting the relations between Jews and their Arab neighbours is Judaism's chosen people concept which implies that Jews are superior to non-Jews. However, the Anti-Defamation League and other authorities assert that the concept of a chosen people within Judaism has nothing to do with racial superiority, but rather is a description of the special relationship between God and Jews.

    Avi Beker, a scholar and the former Secretary General of the World Jewish Congress, regards the idea of the chosen people as Judaism's defining concept which is "the central unspoken psychological, historical, and theological problem at the heart of Jewish-Gentile relations". Beker views the concept of choseness as the driving force behind Jewish-Gentile relations, which explains both the admiration and, more pointedly, the envy and hatred the world has felt for the Jews in religious and also secular terms. Beker argues that while Christianity has modified its doctrine on the displacement of the Jews, he accuses Islam of not reversing or reforming its theology on the succession of both the Jews and the Christians. According to Baker, this presents a major barrier to conflict resolution in the Arab-Israeli conflict.

    In conclusion, the total resolution of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict could be compared to the total removal of 26 sewing needles found inside a Chinese woman's body (Please read the story in the link below). Many of the needles have worked their way into the vital organs including her lungs, bladder, liver, kidneys, head, neck, shoulders and others. One needle in her brain had broken into several pieces.

    Removing all the needles from the woman's body could be life-threatening. The doctors may manage to remove some but not all the needles without endangering her life.

    Similarly, some issues of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict may be resolved in the direct peace talks. However, some core problems could never be resolved. In my opinion, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is just a small part of a larger, eternal conflict between Judaism and Islam.

    Woman lives with needles inside her body
    http://www.infoniac.com/offbeat-news/woman-lives-with-needles-inside-her-body.html

    Israel’s Destiny
    http://www.raptureready.com/soap/rr-terry-article.html

    Jews as the chosen people
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_as_a_chosen_people

    Palestinian people
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_people

    What is Palestine and Palestinians?
    http://www.science.co.il/History-Palestine.php

    In a Nutshell: Israeli Palestinian Conflict
    http://mideastweb.org/nutshell.htm

    Jewish and Arab terrorism in Palestine
    http://samsonblinded.org/blog/history-of-palestinians

    Israel and Palestine: A Brief History - Part I
    http://www.mideastweb.org/briefhistory.htm

    Palestinian history fabricated
    http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=495

    HISTORY of Israel & "Palestine"
    http://www.masada2000.org/historical.html

    3 Palestinians killed following clashes in Occupied West bank
    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/0...lled-following-clashes-in-occupied-west-bank/

    Three Palestinians killed in W. Bank clash: medics
    http://news.ph.msn.com/top-stories/three-palestinians-killed-in-w-bank-clash-medics-4

    In raging Middle East, Israel wins time with Palestinian peace talks
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/31/us-palestinians-israel-region-idUSBRE96U15U20130731
     
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    This leads us to the final conclusion - the Israeli-Palestinian conflict may be resolved when Jordan becomes Palestine !
     
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    Exactly as <Left Wing Tabloid and more> is/was...

    Anti Muslim agenda? One has to be blindfolded not to see/witness what is going on on this planet with the Muslims raping, killing, murdering, bombing, drive to conquer the west by sheer numbers.

    It is sad that one has to use untruths to put people with foresights on the defensive.
     
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    Neo-Zionist propaganda, trying to make Gentiles favor Jews over Muslims.
     
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    "Gentiles" in Europe do not favor nobody. to my opinion most don't like the Jews and all HATE the Muslims.
     
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    If Jordan becomes Palestine, it will eventually become part of Israel. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict may be resolved when both Jordan and the US become Palestine. The Palestinians will definitely like to reside in their "Promised Land" in the Western Hemisphere with one of their people becomes the US President. :unclesam:
     

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