She is not an Arab. Get it? Nor is she the subject. Get that? Good. Now I suggest you remember this. Do go on...
Of course they fought before 48 as well and were themselves well massacred before. Obviously as it was there homeland and suddenly in the 30's there is this massive influx of European Jews saying they want their homeland, they were going to fight. As I said, anyone would and before that there were incidents, though at the Hebron massacre, arabs, both Christian and Muslim protected their Jewish villagers so that most were saved so we can see that certainly at the beginning people's first loyalty was to those they had lived with. Many indigenous Jews were as against Europeans taking over their land as anyone else. You really cannot be surprised about this happening. Ireland carried on fighting for hundreds of years, if it has even yet completely stopped. Out of interest. When did your grandad arrive? Why did he move to Palestine? Did he ever tell you anything about it? Well, lets just begin with new settlement building before we talk of removing old. When you are putting up new settlements you are giving the whole world including the US the message that you have no intention of allowing the Palestinians a State. That is why the whole world, including the US and all of Europe know there is no Israeli intention on 2 states. Apart from that it is a war crime which is why it looks like Israel will be taken to the ICC. The only country which thinks it is legal is Israel. come on now, think on that. Settlement's themselves are a war crime. They are against International Law as has been stated many times so they never should have been put there. Never mind two states, they make the possibility of any Palestinians, apart from their leaders, having any human rights impossible. Their orchards are burned by settlers and hence their livelihood lost, their water stolen, their own homes sometimes taken. They do not have free movement and suffer daily humiliating and waste of time going through checkpoints which far too often result in someone unnecessarily being killed. Never mind the eyesore of the illegal wall which has taken even more Palestinian lands and lost more people their homes and way to earn a living. Here is my idea for what I think could be a workable solution. Let settler Jews who wish to stay as part of a Palestinian State who have committed no crimes or born the animosity of the Palestinian community stay as part of the Palestinian State. Obviously this requires consultation and agreement but I know there are some Jews who would like to do this who are currently working with Palestinians on healing relations. All the other settlers back to Israel but leave the houses there. The Palestinians can choose to bulldose them if they give them bad memories or use them in particular for refugees. Israel will need to accept a small percentage of Palestinian refugees - possibly as low as ten thousand and they aren't fussy about getting Israeli citizenship, just about the right to live there and own property there - so a solution to that side of things ought to be possible - with financial compensation where necessary. Apart from that Israel will have the same population which includes some arabs. It would be hoped that with both states having both Jews and Arabs that this would be an incentive for peaceful co-operation and making sure all the citizens of both states have equal rights and equal citizenship. The feelings from the past need to be dealt with and Israel needs to be honest about what happened in 48. That is demanded by the Palestinians on all grounds but not least psychological healing. Among the refugees this seems to be the greatest need. There is unlikely to be peace without this honesty. It has then been suggested that something like the system which happened in SA be adopted so that other grievances can be met, worked through and left behind. With the right attitude peace and harmonious conditions could be achieved with both states working closely together for their common good.
"Settlers" Hate Tour in Hebron 20-08-2011 [video=youtube;2ZqS7GZTMZk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=2ZqS7GZTMZk[/video]
no one is taking your capital Tel aviv from you. It has the best whores in the region - - - Updated - - - zionist have made all jews look bad
if the hope of israel becoming a democracy did ever occur, jews would eventually be voted out of office.
you post the anti semitics that discredit most anything good of the jewish believers the ONLY true NAZIS on this earth are the ashkenazi of zionism They are the bigots of the middle east divide, making every jew the world over, have a hard time correct the ashkanazi will take down each and everyone, if they dont get their way see samson option as the only way the bigots could win
I INTEND TO GO ON. Thank you for your personal comment. noted. Please be so kind and explain the fact that Between 1948 to 1973 arabs brutalised and robbed 1000000 jews from their homes in the arab countries. You cannot say it is not a pure historical fact !!
I know only what I read and were told by my grandparents, without goind in land ownership that goes beck to the Ottomans, lets say both sides were not innocents, I know of both atrocites carried by both sides from 1st eye witnesses. I started to film them on my smartphone a few weeks ago because that is a piece of history, My Grandpa came from Romania in 1936 at the age of 17, he said he came out of zionist idiolegy to build a home for jews, they knew there is a big settelment in Palestina that needs working hands he met my Grandma at the orange orchards, she was born in Rishon Le Zion and raised in Jerusalem orphange, she had two brothers one was at the Ezel and the other at Hagana, both didnt know about the other actiuvitees because at the time Hagana and Ezel were rivals, Hagana used to sneech on Ezel to the Brits - as they told me, My grandma own words were the Ezel were terrorists, she thinks her brother participated in a Brit police head Q bombing, he was arrested for it. they have many stories very intersting. I mostly agree execpt when talking about Jerusalem, I know to you its contrevecial, its not for us, when ppl jump 10 ft high when we build there, Im not excited, sorry. The rest of the settelments need to be withdrawn, there only justification in my eyes are for security, actually a breech of law on behalf of security but my point is - when we have an agreement they are gone as far as im concerned. Again, mostly agree but it doesnt mean I support withdarw on the good faith in Hamas, because I dont have any. Sounds reasonable to me but you left Jerusalem out..., I think the Israeli guy problem is not a few more or less meters in the WB, its about trust. see, if we could jump forward in time and we have peace, real peace, than I dont think we would care if Palestinians got 85% 95% or 100% of the WB, the problem is getting there.
you and I are articulating as a 'light upon mass'. "We" are alive, today. Are other human beings, as capable of Love as you? Is everyone ever born conscious, equally capable, in the eyes of 'god' (per se)? What would make someone overcome their commitment to their ideology for another life? Kind of like, choosing not to shoot your enemy laying on his back defenseless, no matter what the orders are.
Regarding other human beings , i cannot free my self thinking once every few days about the Poor Israeli family that an arab terrorist murdered her five children in their sleep. Those thoughts do not make me "alive".. Sorry.
Hallo, Everyone! Nice to read you are all wide awake and enjoying a lively discussion. Thanks to those who supported and defended me - - poop on you who can't take a bit of truth! Only the suffering of Jews is real, everything else doesn't matter. The anti-Semite and Nazi club is always omnipresent! A normal and neutral observer does not exist in the Zionist/Jewish/Israeli vocabulary. But let's not waste time in the past, which is done and over, rather pay attention to the present! Israel is marching on, now also openly attacking Syria, in their quest to achieve what Rabbi Fishman declared to the UN on 9 July 1947: "The Promised Land extends from the River of Egypt up to the Euphrates, it includes parts of Syria and Lebanon." Taken from the link below is a reader's comment, C Moore · 9 weeks ago: Rachel Corrie tried... http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article33220.htm
The sickness has even trained Americans to hate their own, so much, I have read them speak ill of her, of course, fanned by the Jew owned media, it is really disgusting the things I have read, yet in reality, she had more bravery than any 'IDF'. Americans need to wake up. They have created the proverbial frankenstein monster, and it does not care who it kills, them too. [video=youtube;x30-2JD5lqU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=x30-2JD5lqU[/video]
Yes they do and we support them. They are our shield in the Muslim jungle. It's not easy for them but soom it will be better ( When Jordan transforms to Palestine ).
is that a random guided rocket Or did human beings go face to face and murder as you claim? ie... are you suggesting that them children are why you have your life on the line? (i would love to think that you will defend the children) quite the opposite. it is them thoughts that prove you are. Again, the problem is not you being capable, it is your pride and ignorance that has your head up your yahoo.
And that is the wrong choice Are you using people? What will be better if there are no zionist in palestine? Jordan already control tel megiddo (the mount), so it does make sense that the zionist will be leaving.
They won't leave and you know it. You can write 1 million comments in forums ... it will only grow white hair on your lovely head. The change will come soon... nobody can stop the train now... Assad - on the way down King Hussain - After Palestinians will take over Jordan and stick their flag upon Amman.
The grilling Hagel received from Republican Zionists (McCain is an absolute sell-out) for comments he made about being an American senator and not an Israeli senator made me sick. How could it be? Israel's founding fathers were Bolsheviks and Trotskyites. Can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
Exactly! Jordan's Hashemite own the single most important land to all of zionism, the mount and nothing in all the world is going to change that without ww3. and you're on the wrong side! i already did what i am to do. The knowledge of how life works, to the letter, is already running thru this world (see the sciences) I just dont want what the prophets claimed to happen. What 'they' want is the name of god. If you comprehend what that means, it is the universal quest of mankind; knowledge of how it all works and you are assisting the wrong side. The way to measure is with compassion. Then see who is actually being taken advantage of and actually being oppressed. The nasty ones are the oppressors. Then to find out it is over 'tel meggido' (the mount) and then to comprehend why, what for and as much information of the intentions................... it is so honorable in one sense but in the current form, the most horrid embodiment of atrocities that this earth has ever experienced. notice how many 'kings' are raising, dying and have died in our generation. To the king of rock, the king of pop to even a king having already been buried in the rock. perhaps read some of the old theology since it is theology that is sustaining the whole of your argument for israel. Pay attention to what babylon actually is within mankind (gate of god) tel megiddo is what?
Israel and USA are so much interwoven one might as well call this new identity ISUSA. Check this out: US awards Israeli Chief of Staff Gantz with 'Legion of Merit' Israel's Chief of Staff Lieutenant Benny Gantz (R) and his US counterpart Martin Dempsey (C) arrive at a ceremony at the Rabin military base in Tel Aviv, January 20, 2012. (Looks like big grandpa showing his little boy around) The award was given to Gantz on behalf of US President Barack Obama, during a ceremony at the Pentagon, for what Washington called an outstanding and noteworthy command. During the ceremony, the Israeli military chief praised the cooperation between Israeli and US militaries. The US award and praise for the Israeli army chief comes a week after an Israeli airstrike on a Syrian research center in Damascus, which left several people killed and injured. The Israeli official who is in Washington for a five-day visit held a series of work meetings with his American counterpart and other American officials. The Syrian army said on January 30 that two people were killed and five others injured in an Israeli airstrike on a research center in Jamraya, near the capital, Damascus. The violent attack drew international condemnation, from countries including Iran, Turkey, as well as the Organization of Islamic Cooperation denouncing the move as a violation of international law. The United States remains the biggest contributor of military aid to Israel, amounting to three billion dollars per year. http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/02/06/287544/us-awards-israeli-military-official/ Yup... together they are deadly. I have this new light bulb going on in my head: They are banding together in order to secure the oil, gas and other resource rich area for themselves. By doing so, they will be able to sustain their dominance over all the other nations, but especially Russia and China. I'm not even sure, if those two countries banded together, they could defeat ISUSA. I also start to understand why Canada sides with ISUSA: We Canadians have figured out whom to support in this race for world power in order to stay alive for a while longer... we love our stolen country, oops...given to us by the Queen of England. Let's be merry and sing and dance while we still can > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zey8567bcg P.S. Another light bulb: US, Canada and Israel are all stolen from the indigenous people. In a few hundred years we may be kept on reservations or are killed off. Islam with its sharia will likely be the ruling force. Allah is great! Jaweh is greater! Christ trumps them both!!!
No - this does NOT end well for Americans. Okay, I do not usually do media catchphrases, but remember when it became the thing to talk about the 1%? The implication being that this tiny minority had gained dominion over most of the wealth. It is true. Who do you think they were speaking about? See, that is where they got stage fright, they too have been so conditioned, that even when you lay it all lay, they will refuse to admit that this tiny % of greed bastards, and quite often criminals in how they gain their assets, are mostly Jews. They know it is true, but they do not want to SAY the truth, tis like being a heretic. They fear the gyser of denial, abuse, threats to job, threats to themselves, that is how they have, like a lab mouse, been trained to react to certain stimuli. Thus, any mention of the J word, of them being absurdly over represented as media owners, international bankers, whatever, causes people to react the way they have been programmed to - and that is to take it that by stating what is true, it is hate. It's not. If there is any hate, it is by those that are greedy, criminal and subversive, then hide behind 'anti semitism'. So brainwashed are about 75% of Americans, that even when you put one of the chosen if front of camera ADMITTING IT IS A PSY OP TRICK...the American viewer will watch...but they cannot HEAR. And anything they do hear, is forgotten, as they go get a 'root beer'. The education system and curriculum was dumbed down, at some point there, imo. Esp at state schools. At some point in the past say 45yrs, there has been a wicked and deliberate dumbing down of their education, and ignorance and capitalism are things to be revered, and that is all. No room for critical thinking, be honest, it is surely lacking, you MUST see this. There are no lateral thinking skills, a miserable grasp of history, a terrible grasp of geography, and a truly stunningly simple Worldview. Even a moral anchor was muted, not that I am religous, however, LOOK what they did, they set about not just removing Christianity from all state schools, in any form, but they perverted it, they took the Jesus of of it, they have JUDIFIED it, over there. Christian Zionists? For the love of god, just listen to ANY of them, some Jews are cunning and devious, but FFS, those CZ's are all morons man, they know NOTHING, and they all sound the same, absolute retards. They are a perversion and an insult to the message of Jesus, but that suits Jews, because as their book the Talmud clearly states, he is a magician, a son of a whore, a bastard, and boiling in a vat of his excrement. Nice, right? And THIS and these people are what CZ's have replaced the messages of Jesus with, no wonder they all sound twisted, like demons man, a couple of millenia ago, they would have been called POSSESSED. They would probably be induced into murdering real Christians, if the Jews wanted them to. Why not? Jews murdered Christians in Lebanon and Palestine, and Russia (by the tens of millions there), and what do Americans 'Christians' know about any of this? And if they know, why is their allegiance NOT with them, rather than this synagogue of satan, and these Jews who say they are Jews, but whom are not? Jesus would have been hated by Christian Zionists, and if he were in Germany, they would lock him up. The CZ's would be the new Romans, and induced into crucifying him all over again, by the Pharisees(sic). But they are doing it anyway. Jesus does not need to come back, for them to be doing it. If you see him as a methaphor for goodness, forgiveness, etc, then by virtue of their support for the synagogue of satan, they are murdering love, decency, ethics, everything, and replacing it with darkness, greed, averice, malice, and sadism. But many of that 99% are going to get murdered and take away, in the US. Many changes to come. When more Americans, or the first one you know that laughed in your face, knows someone that is dragged off, and never seen again, when stories start going around the streets of this happening more and more, when sections of Americans are painted as domestic terrorists, and that can be ANYONE THAT DISSENTS, then you will see what is done to Americans. They will get down on their knees and wish they had done something sooner. Most will not even know or realise, even at the point the ice pick smashes their skulls in two. They should have listened to.. Why NOT listen to HIM???? [video=youtube;1YrgtUQl38M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YrgtUQl38M&feature=player_embedded[/video] Or him.. [video=youtube;zQln33B9urg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQln33B9urg&feature=player_embedded[/video] Or him... "I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy [in the Middle East] not approved by the Jews..... terrific control the Jews have over the news media and the barrage the Jews have built up on congressmen .... I am very much concerned over the fact that the Jewish influence here is completely dominating the scene and making it almost impossible to get congress to do anything they don't approve of. The Israeli embassy is practically dictating to the congress through influential Jewish people in the country" Sec. of State John Foster Dulles quoted on p.99 of Fallen Pillars by Donald Neff 1957 Note how they could at LEAST SAY IT THEN??? "The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate." Senator Fullbright, Chair of Senate Foreign Relations Committee: 10/07/1973 on CBS' "Face the Nation". TRUMAN FELT GUILTY AND LEFT THIS LEGACY Former US President Harry Truman described Jews as "very, very selfish" in newly-discovered diary notes that have surprised scholars. "They [the Jews] care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as D[isplaced] P[ersons] as long as the Jews get special treatment," he wrote in 1947. "Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political, neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the underdog. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3059087.stm
I dont understand where's the problem? 1,000,000 Jewish troops to divide 500,000,000 Arabs comes to 1 soldier to every 500 Arabs, they will do as to or that soldier will make them pay. Not the shinest star in the sky are you?
As usual, Zionists count all arabs as combatants. I'd remove that insult if I were you. Danger of ricochet.
