ISRAEL PREPARES FOR ANOTHER WAR WITH HEZBOLLAH AS IDF PRACTICES LEBANON INVASION

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nobody concerns about Palestinians. Sad pawns in the games Arabs play they are.
     
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    I'm not sure I understand the question as I'm answering questions from several threads at the moment.

    The primary difference is that Israeli Occupation, land theft etc is only possible because of US Funding & committed by foreign individuals from Europe the US etc.

    My best guess is that Arabs don't resent being occupied as much by other Arabs as they do/did by foreign Zionist Terrorist Gangs etc from afar.
     
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    BINGO!!! We have a winner!!! Post of the year!!! :applause:
     
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    so, when will the Palestinians accept a decent peace plan?
     
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    If you're going to quote me please do so in context i.e.

    "My best guess is that Arabs don't resent being occupied as much by other Arabs as they do/did by foreign Zionist Terrorist Gangs etc from afar."
     
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    Nice article showing kids playing in a puddle. I suppose they could empower their people by spending locally, but unfortunately, they don't make anything. Please qualify your statement: "But you don't know that 72% aid to Palestinians is stolen by the Israelis:"
     
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    It was context enough. thank you for posting this gem again.
     
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    "Rejectionism is embedded in Israel's most primal beliefs. There, at the deepest level, lies the concept that this land is destined for the Jews alone"(3)


    When Israel stops rejecting Peace plans & stops building illegal US funded Settlements:
    I don't want to spend another afternoon proving that Israel prefers land theft & a brutal Occupation over Peace.


    1. Why Israel Doesn't Care About Peace
    Israelis feel prosperous, secure — and disengaged from the peace process with the Palestinians. Is that wise?
    http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2015789,00.html


    2. "Israel Does Not Want Peace"
    http://www.worldbulletin.net/author/gideon-levy/479/israel-does-not-want-peace


    3. "Israel Does Not Want Peace"
    http://www.haaretz.com/peace/1.601112

    EXCERPT "Rejectionism is embedded in Israel's most primal beliefs. There, at the deepest level, lies the concept that this land is destined for the Jews alone

    Israel does not want peace. There is nothing I have ever written that I would be happier to be proved wrong about. But the evidence is piling up. In fact, it can be said that Israel has never wanted peace – a just peace, that is, one based on a just compromise for both sides.

    The single most overwhelming item of evidence of Israel’s rejection of peace is, of course, the settlements project. From the dawn of its existence, there has never been a more reliable or more precise litmus test for Israel’s true intentions than this particular enterprise. In plain words: The builders of settlements want to consolidate the occupation, and those who want to consolidate the occupation do not want peace. That’s the whole story in a nutshell."CONTINUED


     
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    During the Ottoman rule Gaza had a thriving Jewish population.

    Where were the Jews of Gaza when Egypt occupied it in 1948?

    I wonder when will Hamas allow descendants of Jewish refugees from Gaza (from Kfar Darom, for instance) to return to their lands. Meanwhile, aren't those descendants supposed to resist Arab occupation of their lands by any means necessary?

    By the way, there were 356,261 Arabs in Gaza in 1967. There were 1,753,327 of the same in 2016. Can you define "decimation"?
     
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    Re:
    Try Operations "Cast Lead," "Pillar of Cloud", "Cutting Edge" etc plus unreported birth & adult deaths & malformations from D.U., N.D.U., D.I.M.E. bombs, Bio/Chem ordinance & Genotoxic Weaponry

    And:
    List of Israeli Massacres"
    http://hubofmiddleeastpolitics.blogspot.com/2011/09/list-of-israeli-massacres.html
    "A list of massacres caused by the Zionist forces leading up to and during the establishment of the state of Israel:


    The King David Massacre 1946

    Explosion at the King David Hotel by the Jewish Agency & Irgun resulted in the deaths of 92 civilians including Britons, Arabs and Jews; wounding 58.

    Baldat al-Shaikh Massacre 1947

    First Battalion of Palmakh and the Carmelie brigade launched a raid against 2 towns, taking the outlying homes by surprise as inhabitants slept. They pelted them with hand grenades and fired machine guns. 60 civilians including women, children and elderly were killed.

    Yehida Massacre 1947

    Zionists with machine guns sprayed bullets into a crowd gathered in a coffee house, while grenades were thrown into Arab homes. 13 civilians were killed in total throughout the day, and 23 wounded.

    Khisas Massacre 1947

    Two carloads of Haganah terrorists drove through the village firing machine guns and throwing grenades. 10 civilians were killed.

    CONTINUED

    Qana Massacre 1996

    Zionist forces bombed a shelter providing refuge to 500 Lebanese, mostly women, children and elderly forced out of their villages by Israeli raids. 109 civilians killed and 116 injured in a UN compound.

    Janta Massacre 1998

    Israeli warplanes attacked a mother and her 6 children when they had returned from the field. All had been killed.

    The 29 June Massacre 1999

    Israeli force targeted a building in Beirut. 8 civilians killed and 84 injured.

    Western Bekaa villages Massacre 1999

    Israeli warplanes fired on children who were celebrating the Eid festival. 8 children were killed and 11 others wounded.

    Al-Aqsa Mosque Massacre 2000

    Ariel Sharon entered Al-Aqsa Mosque with 3000 Israeli soldiers. Soldiers opened fire on Muslims worshipers before completing their prayers. 80 Palestinian civilians were killed and 1000's injured.

    Lebanon Massacre 2006

    There were more than 94 cases of Israeli air and artillery attacks on civilian homes and vehicles . Of the 1,109 casualties, approximately 900 were civilians, and most of the targets were roads, residential buildings and civil buildings that had no evidence of combatants."
    CONTINUED
     
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    Nice.

    Now, here's an interesting statistics from wiki

    ...A study by the American organization Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting monitored the use of the term "retaliation" in the nightly news broadcasts of the three main American networks CBS, ABC, and NBC between September 2000 through March 17, 2002. It found that of the 150 occasions when "retaliate" and its variants were used to describe attacks in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, 79 percent were references to Israel "retaliating" and only 9 percent were references to Palestinians "retaliating"...

    Now, what does it tells you? That's right, it tells me, Israel mostly retaliates to the terrorist attacks by Palestinians and these from surrounding neighboring countries. Collateral damage is ****ing unavoidable.

    Your list is interesting nonetheless. Here's what I've found when searched " Janta Massacre 1998"

    December 22, 1998 (Lebanon): Israeli warplanes waited for the children to come home from the field to embrace their mother when they carried out this savage attack. Mother and her 6 children were killed.

    What did Israeli warplanes do, waited in the bushes by the road till children come home to embrace their mother, let them do that, and then carried out an attack? :roflol:

    I'm not laughing at that family misfortune... I'm laughing at the poor, naive Israel haters, who read this **** and believe in it.
     
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    I thought we'd gotten past the "Israel haters" rhetoric when one brings up the actions of Israeli government and the atrocities committed by Zionist Terrorists. I don't use the term "Palestinian hater"

    #1: [Retaliation] I'm far from alone in my distrust of the fairness of MSM when it comes reporting ANYTHING to do with the Israel - Palestinian for good reason (1),(2),(3). Therefore, the language they use is meaningless.


    #2: [Warplanes] I, too don't believe that the Israeli planes "hid in the bushes" but believe that the incident happened as I've read of it elsewhere.




    (1)“Studies continually show strong pro-Israel bias in western media”

    http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/studies-continually-show-strong-pro-israel-bias-western-media-881718416

    EXCERPT “Mainstream western media outlets are, by and large, infused with a pro-Israeli ideological bias that colors nearly all mainstream Western reporting on Israel-Palestine.

    Israel is assumed to be good, peaceful, and like ‘us’. The Palestinians, meanwhile, are backwards, violent, and foreign. These are the assumptions that most western news outlets start with, and questions like Tapper’s follow naturally. One can easily imagine the media uproar if it were Hamas that struck a disabled center with a rocket, or killed 18 members of the same family, or four kids on a beach.

    Studies show that when Israel does commit atrocities, they are often justified by western news outlets, and sometimes altogether suppressed. As journalist Amena Saleem reported last August, BBC News instructed its reporters to positively spin stories about Israeli violence in Gaza during a November 2012 operation that killed about 200 Palestinians after Israel broke a ceasefire with Hamas.”CONTINUED


    (2) “Journalists blast NY Times for pro-Israel bias and “grotesque” distortion of illegal occupation of Palestine”

    http://www.salon.com/2016/05/26/journalists_blast_ny_times_for_grotesque_pro_israel_bias_and_distortion_of_illegal_occupation_of_palestine/

    EXCERPT “The Times regularly fails to mention that the Palestinian territories have been illegally occupied by Israel since 1967. It often uses euphemistic language to describe Israel’s illegal activity, dubbing lands unlawfully seized by Israel in violation of international law “disputed” territory.

    Rights activists have been so frustrated by the publication’s skewed reporting that, in February, activists from progressive Jewish human rights groups created a very convincing-looking fake edition of the Times to protest its coverage of Israel-Palestine.”CONTINUED


    (3) “U.S. media coverage reveals a pro-Israel bias”

    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2014/09/01/commentary/world-commentary/u-s-media-coverage-reveals-a-pro-israel-bias/#.WMLm5mafK_U


    EXCERPT “Why does TV news look like a Netanyahu ad?” asked Chris McGreal of The Guardian on July 31, in his article on the “notoriously pro-Israel mainstream media in the U.S.”

    In fact, three main dailies here from mid-July to mid-August easily gave the impression that U.S. President Barack Obama, not Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, was prosecuting a war against the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. The U.S. State Department continues to list the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) as a terrorist organization.



    Meanwhile, the Wall Street Journal dispelled any doubt about which side it was on. On Aug. 2-3, its Review section gave a two-page spread — “In Defense of Zionism” — against an oversize photo of a flag-raising ceremony in Israel, in 1948.”CONTINUED
     
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