Israel vs. Palestine

Well, let me see.

Let's say that I came to your door, whinge, whine, whine.

'Please let me cry on your shoulder', Mr and Mrs Daybreaker, 'I am persecuted, I am humble, I am in need'.

And so, after much whining you give me a nice room, at the back.

I can even stay there, as long as I like, no pressure.

One day you come home.

I have some friends round. And they ain't going away.

I need to make room for them.

There are three of them, and they all need a room.

So, you and Mrs DB are forced to sleep in the kitchen, and the kid has to go there too.

That is our suggestion.

When you take issue, my two 700lb gorilla's will slap you in the mouth, and threaten to rape your wife, and kill your kid, if you don't take the kitchen, and live in it.

You can call the cops, and the cops WILL admit it is illegal...but there hands are tied, as someone has just vetoed any action.

You cannot leave for work now, nor your kid go to school. Too much risk to our home security, to have you moving around so free.

You can apply for a permit.

I would not bother.

You will never get one, and, if you do, we will punish your wife and child for being successful in your application.

Some more friends are moving in, by the way.

See, I actually found a penny that belonged to me, when I first came to your house.

My friends and family have always owned this house.

Title deeds? Let me get my lighter. Now. What fecking title deeds, son.

Anway, that kitchen is going to need you to decant.

Attic? No. I found a button there, that I am sure is my uncle's. His side of the family are converting that.

I know.

How about the rat infested cellar?

Come on, we are letting you stay, what is the problem.

Btw, if you do ANYTHING we do not like, and sometimes we just make stuff up for you, we will put your kid in a cell, and never let you see him.

Remember.

Some of my friends like torturing kids.

It is not five years later.

How do you think you feel?

 

Pretty hostile.

 

Hostile?

Why?

You have a place to live.

Your early aggression to us, it forced us to enable these new measures.

I have to protect my people.

Your child threw a stone at my door.

If he is old enough to do that, he can go in a cage.

Btw, some fresh supplies arrived from you.

We destroyed them.

Btw. All of my friends are now in the police.

So don't be thinking of holding on to that pretty wife, for long.

She is trouble.

A possible threat...to our home.

How do you feel now?

 

You know I'm real tempted to put you on ignore. Not many people on my ignore list. I'm just getting tired of reading your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) opinionated biased made up trash.

 

But...what then?

I mean...with no you...what then?

Ta ta

 

Just FYI.

 

Increasingly hostile.

But will acting on that hostility help or hinder the cause of peace?

 

Sometimes, though not often, violence is the only avenue towards true peace.

The Virus must be eradicated.

It's that simple.

 

This is false. Palestine belonged to the citizens and residents of Palestine regardless of any ethnic/racial/religious criteria. Somewhere between 400,000-700,000 or more Arab-Muslims that were citizens/residents of what because Israel have had their homeland stolen from them as they and their heirs have been taken from them. They fled to avoid acts of terrorism that included murder and because of the fear of being caught up in a war started by the Zionists in 1948 and have been denied the Right to Return to their Homeland. "Zionists" like to talk about "patrimony" but don't respect the "patrimony" of the Arabs that have been denied their homeland by the Zionists controlling the Israeli government.

Patrimony, by definition, is the handing down of legal property rights from one generation to the next. It is my understanding that 18% of Israeli territory proper (not including the occupied territories) belonged to Arabs and was confiscated from them without compensation. The owned this land legally but there land was taken from them wrongfully by the "Zionists" in 1948 and their "Right of Patrimony" was violated. Not a single immigrating Jew from Europe had a Right of Patrimony to land in Palestine unless that land was acquired by a voluntary transaction with the legal owner.

There is no Right of Patrimony related to government. Governments have no Rights. When the Rights of the Individual are violated in the creation of government then the government lacks ligitimacy. Israel was founded upon the violations of the Rights of the non-Jewish population and lacks true ligitimacy because of that. Until it recognizes the inalienable Rights of the non-Jewish population in Palestine allowing those non-Jewish citizens and residents, including their heirs, to return to their Homeland which is Israel today then the government will continue to be illegitimate. Until it allows those whose Property was confiscated access to the Courts where they can re-establish their Right of Property (patrimony) the Israeli government remains illigitimate. Until Israel withdraws from the territories it illegally occupied by acts of war in 1967 respecting the Rights of the People that lived in those territories the Israeli government remains a tyrannically oppressive government.

I'm often critisized for condemning Israel so I will bring up one more point unrelated to Israel. Those Jews that lost property in Europe during WW II need to have the access to the European Courts to present their evidence of loss and to either have their property returned or receive just compensation. For the most part European Courts are allowing and addressing this issue of Property Rights. Those Jews that lost property in the Arab-Muslim nations like Jordon also need access to the Courts to present their evidence of loss and to either have their property returned or receive just compensation. The Arab-Muslim countries are not allowing this and it reflects tyranny by those government which is unacceptable. All People should have access to the Courts where they have a claim of violations of their Right of Property.

 

Over developed theory that does not mesh with reality!

The Jews are the owners of their Land and not the Arab marauders!

What you describe above, sadly is exactly a fiction that you have accepted... repeat the same lie often enough, ends up to be a fictitious mantra.
Go open a book on Jewish history, go open a book on the Roman Empire... Jews my friend even fought Pharaoh before that. While the Phallustinians were not even featured anywhere during that time until 1964. What you are describing is a fantasy that never happened.

The Land of Israel is peppered with Archeological sites... while the Arab squatters are amazed at the idea that they are alien in the country of the Jews... What you are trying to inculcate the readers with, is a FICTION! Have a nice life!

 

Archaeology? Is that all you haVe? Guess what, England is peppered with Roman, Viking, Norman archaeology but the world has moved on, and finding a Roman coin does not entitle the Italians to a claim on the land.

UN242 is no fiction and evidently the truth and fact is unacceptable to you. 'There are none so blind as those who won't see'. Israel, as a member of the UN is as bound by its laws as any other member state. Don't like it? Fine, ask your representative to lobby for Israel's resignation. You won't be missed...

 

Nooooooooooo... what you are proselytizing above is fiction! First there was no country of Palestine ever! Palestine is the name of an area and not a country, it was recognized at some time as part of Syria... so what you describe above is wrong! Because the Brits accepted a Mandate for Palestine that included Cisjordan and Transjordan, they also received a Mandate for Mesopotamia that is called Iraq today... Please do not be under the impression that because the Brits received a Mandate for Palestine means that it was a country before that.

There is no occupied territory per se, Jordan of today in addition to present day Israel is Mandatory area and not a country!
What you are rehashing in your mind might be right in theory based on the fact that the US was taken away from the natives...
In Israel there are no Canaanite looking to open a gambling Casino.

Go read the Mandate Articles... this is becoming too tedious.

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There is no 'JORDON' probably you mean 'JORDAN'... There was very few concentration of Jews in Jordan, when the King Hussein of Jordan invaded Israel in 1947 he threw all Jews over the Armistice line that everyone and his brother call 'BORDER' today... All Jews that lived in East Jerusalem were chased out of their home and hundreds, and I mean hundreds of Temples and Synagogues were burned/destroyed and turned into sheep enclosures and domesticated animal parking places... in addition to all of this ... head tomb markers were uprooted exactly like what the Lybian did as of late (watch this on the link in my signature) and used to pave roads and latrines for the Jordanian Army.

 

Only when that land is acqured based upon a voluntary transaction.

At least 18% of Israel was acqured by force and not voluntary transactions.

None of the occupied territory belongs the the Israeli Jews as those territories were acquired by an act of war and the Geneva Conventions of 1949, which Israel is a signatory of, prohibit the "pillaging" of lands by an occupying nation. Additionally UNSC Resolution 242, which Israel is REQUIRED to comply with as a treaty member of the United Nations, directs Israel to withdraw it's military forces from the territories occupied in 1967. The West Bank, Golan Heights, and E Jerusalem are being illegally settled by Israel in violation of International Law and Israel's treaty obligations. It is an illegal occupation which violated the Rights of the citizens and residents of those territories.

 

I do not deny that the Roman took part of perfidious Albion this is why you find here and there Roman Coins... Your (now) country my friend was a country of savages in history... Guess what? They have not changed.

 

Notwithstanding the above impressive legal verbiage, the Arabs ownership with an Ottoman Khushan (Land ownership document) is practically nil the Ottoman Empire controlled this area for 400 years... Israel bought most of the Land from Arab Absentee Owners and paid for it sometimes in Gold... Very few amongst the Arabs can prove ownership of a parcel of Land... Thus the Land belong to the owners, the Jewish Government and its Jewish citizens.

 

Your declaration of hostility has been noted, and, owing to it, it is important that I protect my home, and that of my friends.

Owing to your aggressive and hostile position, despite our giving you a place to live, there is no doubt that you, your wife, and your child are now a threat to peace, a threat to democracy, and a threat to our home, which, as explained before, has always been our home.

Your wife troubles us the most.

We are going to take her away now, for extensive questioning, after which she will be incarcerated, in the garage.

You cannot visit it. And neither can your kid. You had also best tell you kid to stop shouting abuse at us, from your cellar. It is an act of aggression, and will not be tolerated.

How are you feeling about now..?