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Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by ConShawn, Dec 28, 2011.

  1. Leffe

    Leffe New Member

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    NO one said what you claim. You simply stop funding them and they look after themselves. If their country does not have a large enough GNP to sustain itself, they have to change their immigration policy (yes, the one that US GOPers talk about all the time), they need to ensure that their people can find work, before allowing more immigrants to enter.

    Essentially, they need to act in the very same way that the GOP professes the US should be run.

    But don't tell me, Israel is "different" somehow - right?
     
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    How do you know that? You don't, as you're basically buying that friendship atm. End the funding and find out how brutal Israel will be in defending its own interests.
     
  3. ConShawn

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    SO.....given the chance to lay out your thoughts and plans of how Israel should be handled, you just blame the US and/or say the US is stupid for supporting Israel.

    I asked for specific idea's on how to deal with the situation and the only answer was to allow the Palistinians back into Israel and hold fair elections. That was tried severel times and what happened.......suicide bombings...

    Again I ask.....how should the world handle the situation?
     
  4. fredc

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    No, it hasn't been tried, the Palestinians who were ethnically cleansed in 48 and 67 have never been allowed back.

    A Jew from any country in the world can walk into Israel and claim Israeli citizenship but someone who's ancestors lived on that land and worked it for centuries can't.

    Give the Palestinians justice and they won't need suicide bombers.

    I've told you the solution, give Palestinians the basic rights under international law that they are entitled to, it's simple enough but it seems it isn't what you want to hear.
     
  5. loong

    loong Banned

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    Yep.

    We have had an UNDECLARED WAR with the Iranian Islamist Swine for NINE YEARS and I doubt if it's over ..... and these buttholes are getting hysterical support from our ENEMIES WITHIN, and their braindead liberal supporters every time the correct decision to counter this Islamic Sleaze developing the nukes is discussed.
     
  6. loong

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    The bottom line is that Israel is our ONLY TRUE ALLY in the F-up (F for Fig) Islamic Mid East .

    Whether it is because we aid Israel, or not, is IRRELEVANT.

    We must ensure that we have a TACTICAL & STRATEGIC BASE in the F-up (F for Fig) Islamic Mid East.
     
  7. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    How many troops do we have stationed at that "tactical & strategic base" again?

    How many operations have we launched from it?
     
  8. loong

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    The Islamist Swine attacked Israel in 5 or 6 WARS vowing TOTAL ANNIHILATION OF ISRAEL & ITS POPULATION !!!

    Israel wiped the ground with that Islamic Swine......and secured for itself ONLY the borders as a DEFENSIVE BUFFER ...... otherwise ....... as in the 1973 War, Israel woulda been ANNIHILATED.

    And, STILL some BUTTHOLE ISLAMIST SWINE & THEIR IDIOTIC ISLAMOAPOLOGISTS howl & yowl about the NON- DEMOCRATIC ways of Israel when Israel is threatened DAILY with its TOTAL ANNIHILATION by the ISLAMIC SWINE !!!

    These F-ing (F for Fig) Islamists, and their Braindead Liberal supporters have the ABSOLUTE UNMITIGATED & UNADULTERATED GALL to question Israel's constant battle TO EXIST in this sea of ISLAMIC HATRED when WITHIN ISRAEL 1/2 of the population is composed of ISLAMIC SWINE hell-bent on destroying Israel with daily threats or, actual suicide bombings and lobbing of missiles.

    UNF-ING (F for Fig) BELIEVABLE !!!

    BTW, I am not a Jew. I'd feel the same way if ANY of our allies would be threatened on a DAILY BASIS the way the gallant Israelis are.
     
  9. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    See? Right there's your problem.

    You think Israel is our ally.

    How many of our allies spy on us, sell our technology to the Chinese, and never aid us when we are attacked or go to war?
     
  10. thediplomat2.0

    thediplomat2.0 Banned

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    If the United States stopped supporting Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu would likely continue development of the nation's defense capabilities. Our funding and their committment to a strong national defense has made them one of the most tehnolgically advanced nations when it comes to weapons technology. Many of their advancements have led to our acquisition of Israeli military technology.

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/israelisystems.html

    I would say that Israel largely has the ability to defend itself against any threat.

    By the way, Benjamin Netanyahu spoke to Congress a while back stating that Israel can defend itself:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51-KA-Nc3_k"]Ron Paul and Benjamin Netanyahu - Israel can defend itself - YouTube[/ame]
     
  11. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    Israel had advanced technology prior to our aid. They have very good engineers and designers.

    Our aid has had a far more telling effect on their budget. Because we subsidize their defense, they can afford a massive socialist welfare state.

    Every single Rightwinger who supports giving money to Israel is supporting socialism.
     
  12. thediplomat2.0

    thediplomat2.0 Banned

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    Correct. However, our subsidies have allowed their military technology to go through the roof.
     
  13. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    And we could have instead invested those wasted billions into our own defense industry and cut out the middle man.
     
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    thediplomat2.0 Banned

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    I agree. We are utilizing Israel as a supplier of our own military technology. Please refer to the link in one of my above posts.
     
  15. loong

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    EVERY Nation spies on each other if it is important enough ..... whether friend or foe.

    Even every political idiot knows that.

    "Selling our technology to the Chinese" is a very inclusive indictment; Example: we might have invented a special kind of salt-shaker which was sold to the Chinese by the Israelis, etc. And, in any specific case, the Israelis probably had the permission of America because it would be ridiculous to assume that Israel would purposefully hurt its greatest benefactor.

    As to going to a War with us, let's say with the Iranian Islamist Swine, the participation of Israel, a minute country under constant threat by the Islamist Swine .....that would have been counterproductive for at least two all-important reasons: (1) Israel's participation woulda inflamed the situation more than it did good. And, (2) Israel's forces with respect to the daily dangers it faces from the Islamist Swine is more appropriately confined to its borders.

    Islamist Swine, and/or their braindead apologists know all that.

    It's obvious that all America's enemies want to do is weaken America, and/or its True Allies.
     
  16. loong

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    The above was in response to assertions by what seems to be an Islamist or, and an Islamist Supporter, i.e., a braindead liberal:

    "See? Right there's your problem.

    You think Israel is our ally.

    How many of our allies spy on us, sell our technology to the Chinese, and never aid us when we are attacked or go to war? "

    Thus, one can conclude the OBVIOUS:

    IRREFUTABLE FACTS are IRREFUTABLE.
     
  17. Questerr

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    Clarification: Israel has sold American WEAPONS technology to China.

    If you think that all they've sold them is salt shakers, then you are an idiot.

    Israel has never once sent troops to aid us in warfare. They are not allies. They are parasites.
     

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