Israeli elections

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  1. Gilos

    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    "predetermined" my foot, all accounts prove th eopposite, the only "prove" you have is conspirecy theories with no evidence, the Jews dont need to appologize for winning.
     
  2. Indofred

    Indofred Banned at Members Request

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    I noticed a bunch of people are objecting to this cartoon, claiming its anti Jewish.

    TIMES-CARTOON-e13593581196941.jpg

    Personally, I think it's anti evil bar steward with murderous policies, not anti Jewish in general.
     
  3. Gilos

    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    Its the "art" in my eyes more than the messege, personally im disgusted with this kind of "art", its monsterous way to post humans as monsters, most normal cartoon joke on human looks and in a way highlight their humanity, this kind creates a monster, it twists humanity to monstrosity, I hope kids are not exposed to that artist, his work in "the wall" and other cartoon are all a mockery to humanity, too groteqe, too bloody, shocking. like posting body parts on dayly news papers.
     
  4. Goomba

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    European Zionists were not interested in a small homeland for Jews; they wanted Palestine all for themselves. Palestine was populated at the time, so Zionist leaders had to lie of course- "A land without a people for a people without a land."

    The main founder Israel, Ben Gurion, advocated the transfer of Arabs to make way for the Jewish state:

    WWII was not the Arab's problem, but that of the West. It's natural for an indigenous population to reject the increasing presence of colonists.
     
  5. Gilos

    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    You actually need to prove what you said, unless you heard them first hand..

    The fact Zionists considered diffrent areas suggested they would satisfy of any land so entire Israel was not the objective at least back then, the fact Israel agreed to the partitation plan also prove the same thing, the fact Israel always asked for peace in historic doc's also a proof, the fact that Israel withdrew from Sinai! something it would never had done if taking Sinai was part of the objective - is undesputed fact.

    Please show me Ben Gurion source, there are many here that "cut and pased" things he said to match their propaganda.
     
  6. Goomba

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    Except they were busy ethnically cleansing Palestinians when they accepted the plan, and took more land than the plan had given them. With regards to Sinai, it was beneficial for Israel to withdraw in return for peace with Egypt.

    http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Famous-Zionist-Quotes/Story694.html

    You may disapprove of this source, but the quotes are substantiated on the same page.

    Here's another:

     
  7. Gilos

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    Oh? what village/area was "cleansed" when the plan was offered?

    No no, you cant say the objective was entire Israel and then it was "beneficial to withdraw from it for peace", either keeping the land the objective or peace with the Arabs is,
    Peace with the Arabs as objective is my point, and you can change your accusation to the plot of the Zionists to have peace.
     
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    The fact is Goomba that Israel has and always has had a sizeable minority of Arab Palestinians as was the intention in the partition plan the Jews accepted from the beginning. For there to have been a predetermined plan to cleanse the proposed state then there would be plenty of evidence of a change in plan, an internal conflict resulting in a very major policy change. There isn't evidence of such. What about the territories under Palestinian control in the same time period, what happened to the Jewish population there?
     
  9. Goomba

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    My mistake, villages were cleansed a few months after the plan was accepted.

    Well Israel at first did indeed intend to keep the Sinai for itself, but after the surprise war of 1973, they had to change policy.
     
  10. Tyrerik

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    There's a long tradition of antisemitic caricatures from long before the Nazis and now its mostly the Arabs keeping it alive as we see.
     
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    that type of win is like lance armstrongs win(s)
     
  12. Bishadi

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    what is an antisemitic caricature?

    Heck, any human being claiming to be better than another, by god, is more anti semitic than a nazi
     
  13. Tyrerik

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    The Arabs went to war and both sides had refugees. In any case "cleaning" villages does not equate to clearing a land!

    You make a lot of assertions without providing evidence.
     
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    Does'nt it ? hmm.

    Well according to Moshe Dayan - "

    Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you, because these geography books no longer exist; not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahalal arose in the place of Mahalul, Gevat — in the place of Jibta, Sarid — in the place of Haneifs and Kefar Yehoshua — in the place of Tell Shaman.

    There is no one place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population
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    Evidence? Proof?

    jerusalem has never been israel

    It still aint (UN Res 181, 476, 478) and the ONLY reason the bigots consider jerusalem is israel, is based on torah (belief), lies and force (oppression-genocide). If you do not comprehend nor note these facts, then anyone here can see that genocide is just OK to some people.
     
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    If Israel was to have a overwhelming Jewish majority, it was necessary to cleanse the Arab inhabitants from it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ethnic_Cleansing_of_Palestine#Finalising_a_master_plan

    I assume they went to Israel.
     
  17. Gilos

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    You need to correct yourself a bit more that these attacks were in reply to Arab attacks a few days after the refusal of partitation plan.

    Actually the Arabs changed policy after 73, they were willing to make peace.
     
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    Both Arabs and Jews attacked each other.

    Well before the war Sadat indeed wanted to make peace, but Israel was not interested. Hence the war.
     
  19. Tyrerik

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    Try these, they you might get the idea: Nazi antisemitic propaganda

    So you would agree you are no better than the guy who published these caricatures right?
     
  20. Bishadi

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    well no wonder you talk about that stuff. You look for it, represent it and now sharing it again with others.

    did you see the war crimes?

    [video=youtube;e0AZY7_b9UU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0AZY7_b9UU[/video]

    You might like cartoons, i like to see what I can do to stop oppression, war crimes, genocide and atrocities against human beings.


    I am worse.

    I am the guy the whole world has been awaiting; the name holder
     
  21. Jack Napier

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    It's accurate and with shock value. Where did you get it?
     
  22. Jack Napier

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    Any cartoon or animation which Jews do not like. Anything which Jews do not approve of is 'anti semitic'.

    It will only be a matter of time before you can be deemed to be stretching in an 'anti semitic' manner.

    And then they have the gall to feed out their filth about everyone else. :roll:
     
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    Here :

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    Did we hear any objections from you at the Mohammed caricatures ? or earlier ones by Jews about Yassa Arafat . etc.etc ?
     
  25. Jack Napier

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    I can't make out the name of the artist though.
     

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