Israeli plan to ethnically cleanse Gaza

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by notme, Nov 2, 2023.

  1. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2009
    Messages:
    25,506
    Likes Received:
    6,751
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Prove it please.
     
    AFM likes this.
  2. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    64,187
    Likes Received:
    13,629
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You prove it please :) 1) that you know what a human shield is to begin with and then 2) that Hamas has used Human Shields more than Israel.
     
  3. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    64,187
    Likes Received:
    13,629
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Hamas uses human shields ?
     
  4. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    36,672
    Likes Received:
    8,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That’s what I thought. You claim that Israel uses human shields but cannot back it up.
     
    Dayton3 likes this.
  5. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    64,187
    Likes Received:
    13,629
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That's what I thought .. you claim that Hamas uses human shields but cannot back it up .. unable to even define your terms and state how you are defining human shield ?

    The onus is yours not mine to define .. what on earth you mean by "human shields" as it is your claim that this is responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent children .. indiscriminately slaughtered by the IDF.
     
  6. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2020
    Messages:
    28,522
    Likes Received:
    18,047
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Here you go.

    ". . . But Hamas does use civilians as shields, and it is crucial to understand that fact. As a Nov. 5 Post editorial observed, the group “has consciously exposed noncombatants to danger by provoking Israel militarily — while protecting its own leaders and fighters in tunnels.” In 2014, The Post reported that al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, now the site of Israeli-Hamas fighting, “has become a de facto headquarters for Hamas leaders, who can be seen in the hallways and offices.”. . . "
    We can't ignore the truth that Hamas uses human shields
    upload_2024-1-21_12-47-7.png
    Washington Post
    https://www.washingtonpost.com › 2023/11/14 › ham...


    Nov 14, 2023 — But Hamas does use civilians as shields, and it is crucial to understand that fact. As a Nov. 5 Post editorial observed, the group “has ...
     
    AFM likes this.
  7. USVet

    USVet Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2018
    Messages:
    2,615
    Likes Received:
    2,198
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    141 pages and still no ethnic cleansing.
     
    Dayton3, AFM and Jack Hays like this.
  8. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    36,672
    Likes Received:
    8,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I and others have backed it up multiple times in this thread by quoting the exact words of Hamas stating that they, Hamas, uses Gazan civilians as human shields in Gaza.
     
    USVet and Dayton3 like this.
  9. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2009
    Messages:
    25,506
    Likes Received:
    6,751
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    i'm not the one making a claim
     
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2024
    USVet and AFM like this.
  10. Conservative Democrat

    Conservative Democrat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2020
    Messages:
    2,176
    Likes Received:
    957
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It has to do with the quality of the two nations competing for the same land. I prefer the quality nation.
     
  11. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    64,187
    Likes Received:
    13,629
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What claim are you referring to ? did you forget or not know to begin with ?
     
  12. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    64,187
    Likes Received:
    13,629
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Backed up what ? how can you back up something that you have yet to define ? What is your definition of "Human Sheild" .. if you don't tell us what that is .. then how we know that Hamas is engaging in such practice.

    If you have not defined your terms then you obviously have not backed up anything .. Logic 101.
     
  13. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    36,672
    Likes Received:
    8,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Hamas knows exactly what human shields are. And they self admittedly use human shields which results in Gazan civilian casualties. The quotes of Hamas leaders can be found upthread.

    You have claimed that Israel uses human shields. What is your definition of a human shield that allows you to claim that Israel is using human shields?
     
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2024
  14. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    64,187
    Likes Received:
    13,629
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Israel provoking Hamas militarily is not using Human Shields Jack .. This is obvious propaganda Jack that should be easy to spot.

    What is your definition of Human Shield ? What is the definition being used in this article ?
     
  15. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    36,672
    Likes Received:
    8,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You have claimed that Israel uses human shields. What is your definition of a human shield that allows you to claim that Israel is using human shields?
     
    Jack Hays likes this.
  16. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2020
    Messages:
    28,522
    Likes Received:
    18,047
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    From the linked article:

    ". . . This Hamas practice is not new, and neither are efforts to distract from it with spurious claims of racism. In 2014, a human rights lawyer on CNN said, “The idea that Palestinians use their children as human shields is racist and reprehensible.” To which host Jake Tapper responded: “We have video of the Hamas spokesman on television telling people to stay in their homes, that it’s an effective way to make sure to fight off the Israelis. That’s not racist. That’s just a fact.”

    This war tactic poses agonizing moral dilemmas for anyone concerned about protecting civilian lives. But Hamas itself makes no bones about how it fights Israel. One official of the terrorist group, Moussa Abu Marzook, recently stressed that Gaza’s tunnel network is for protecting Hamas fighters and declared the United Nations responsible for protecting Gazan civilians. Khaled Meshal, a Hamas leader, explained his openness to mass Palestinian death in pursuit of Hamas’s political aims, saying that millions were killed during the Vietnam War and other guerrilla conflicts. . . . "
     
    AFM likes this.
  17. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    64,187
    Likes Received:
    13,629
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You started out by claiming Hamas uses human shields .. giving no support for claim .. no definition of human shield .. and now you ask me for my definition of Human Shields. If you don't know what a human shield is then how can you claim Hamas uses human shields ? or ask me to support a claim counter to your human shield claim.

    Without knowing the definition of Human shields .. your claim that deaths are due to "Human Shields" is complete nonsense .. and I don't have to know anything about what a Human Shield for this to be true.

    Now .. tell us what definition of human shield are you using .. so we can make some sense of what you are trying to claim .. never mind show it to be true or false.
     
  18. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    64,187
    Likes Received:
    13,629
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Jack ..you keep failing to provide a definition of "Human Shield" and relying on the Jake Tapper clown's opinion on the news is not news friend . .. its propaganda .. racist propaganda in this case.

    None of these rabbit holes changes the the fact that Israel has been engaged in Ethnic Cleansing for 70 years .. now an evil occupier engaged in war crimes and crimes against humanity..

    We should be supporting the right to self defense of the Palestinians .. arm them up like we did for the Ukrainian Freedom fighters.
     
  19. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2009
    Messages:
    25,506
    Likes Received:
    6,751
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    don't believe us? google it
     
  20. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    64,187
    Likes Received:
    13,629
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Don't believe what Dayton ? You were asked for a definition of Human Shield .. and have failed to provide one. What is it that we do not believe ?
     
  21. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    36,672
    Likes Received:
    8,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sorry but I am done.
     
  22. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2020
    Messages:
    28,522
    Likes Received:
    18,047
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The Palestinians have been the aggressors since 1948.
     
    Ddyad likes this.
  23. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    64,187
    Likes Received:
    13,629
    Trophy Points:
    113
    you were the one that brought human shields into the arena .. It is you who needs to figure out what definition you are using if you wish your claim about the responsibility for the killing of innocent children has any merit.

    What ever you come up with for a definition . we know Israel is far worse .. Just how the demographics work out ..

    Your claim .. onus on you friend to support that claim tell us what you mean by "Human Shields" or just be with the fact that it is Israel who is responsible for Ethnic Cleansing .. War Crimes .. Crimes against humanity .. and not the other way round .. trying to blame Hamas for Israel's dirty deeds ... and collective punishment .. violating international law .. an evil Colonialist Apartheid Occupier.

    Are you as supportive of Vlad as you are Israel .. or does Orthodox not factor into the religious equation
     
  24. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    64,187
    Likes Received:
    13,629
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Have to give you a failing grade on that response. It has been Israel who has been doing the Ethnic Cleansing ... the Palestinians the one's being Cleansed from the Land .. As the Bibi and Biden Boys Club Charter says .. "From the River to the Sea"

    Now .. the question you avoided was if we should be arming these folks fighting against a foreign occupier raining war on innocent civilians indiscriminately ..
     
  25. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    36,672
    Likes Received:
    8,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sorry but you are on ignore. Good luck.
     

Share This Page