Isreal-Palestine

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  1. Marlowe

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    I crafty bit of distortion - the original documents is liberally sprinkled with "where-ases " There's no mention of the "State of Israel" or a separate "state " it was intended a "home " for the Jews + a solution to Europe's "Jewish problem" nothing more.

    However the precise wording : from :

    http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/palmanda.asp#art28
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    "Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917, by the Government of His Britannic Majesty, and adopted by the said Powers, in favor of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country; and

    Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country; and

    Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have selected His Britannic Majesty as the Mandatory for Palestine; and

    Whereas the mandate in respect of Palestine has been formulated in the following terms and submitted to the Council of the League for approval; and (followed by more "where-ases "


    My next post will contain more abt the Mandate document.
     
  2. Marlowe

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    The Covenant of the League of Nations which provided the international legal basis for establishing a British protectorate, or "Mandate" over Palestine was largely written by the Zionist agent, South African general Jan Smuts. The drafting of the language of the actual Mandate was written by U.S. Zionist and Harvard Law Professor Felix Frankfurter at the Paris Peace Conference in 1919. A MOVEMENT WHICH MADE FALSE PROMISES OF EQUAL TREATMENT The false promises of equal treatment for the Arabs are to be found in the Balfour declaration itself. This declaration was produced by many hands over many months with deception as its deliberate objective. "This too, memorable document is not so much a sentence of English as a verbal mosaic. Drafts for it traveled back and forth, within England or over the Ocean, to be scrutinized by some two score draftsmen half co-operating, half competing with one another, who erased this phrase or adopted that after much thought. At long last, out of the store of their rejections and of their acceptances the final miscellany was chosen, ratified and fixed. There never has been a proclamation longer prepared, more carefully produced, more consciously worded." Whatever is to be found in the Balfour Declaration was put into it deliberately. There are no accidents in that text. If there is any vagueness in it this is an intentional vagueness. "....this nationally issued and nationally endorsed document was nothing but a calmly planned piece of deception." (Palestine: The Reality, J.M.N. Jeffries, pp.)


    The entire Balfour Declaration cannot here be analyzed. A few illustrations of its deceptive character will suffice. "...it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious nights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine..." "At the time of the Balfour Declaration the population of Palestine was 90% Arab and 10% Jew.

    By an altogether abject subterfuge, under colour of protecting Arab interests, they set out to conceal the fact that the Arabs to all intents constituted the population of the country.

    It called them the 'non-Jewish communities in Palestine'! It called the multitude the non-few;
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    "As soon as the Zionists set up shop in Palestine they made clear the real relationship of Jew to Arab. The formal government authority in Palestine, 1918-1920, was rested in the British Military Government. A competing, and in fact superior form of government existing side by side the British Military Government was the Zionist Commission.

    The attitude of the British Military Government and of the native Arab population was summed up by Sir Louis Bols:

    "It will be recognized from the foregoing that my own authority and that of every department of my Administration is claimed or impinged upon by the Zionist Commission, and I am definitely of opinion that this state of affairs cannot continue without grave danger to the public peace and to the prejudice of my Administration." "It is no use saying to the Moslem and Christian elements of the population that our declaration as to the maintenance of the status quo on our entry into Jerusalem has been deserved. Facts witness otherwise: the introduction of the Hebrew tongue as an official language; the setting up of a Jewish judicature the whole fabric of Government of the Zionist Commission, of which they are well aware; the special traveling privileges to members of the Zionist Commission; these have firmly and absolutely convinced the non-Jewish elements of our partiality. On the other hand, the Zionist Commission accuses me and my officers of anti-Zionism.

    The situation is intolerable, and in justice to my officers and myself must be fairly faced.
    " "This Administration has loyally earned out the wishes of His Majesty's Government, and has succeeded in so doing by strict adherence to the laws governing the conduct of the Military Occupant of Enemy Territory, but this has not satisfied the Zionists, who appear bent on committing the temporary Military Administration to a partialist policy before the issue of the Mandate.

    It is manifestly impossible to please partisans who politically claim nothing more than a "National Home", but in reality will be satisfied with nothing less than a Jewish State and all that it politically implies." "I recommend therefore, in the interests of peace, of development, of the Zionists themselves, that the Zionist Commission in Palestine be abolished." (ibid,p.359)

    A MOVEMENT WHICH DISCARDED ITS OWN SPONSOR

    The British Mandate existed only to protect the incoming Zionists from the native Arabs. Mr. Vladimir Jabotinsky makes this clear in his 1923 title The Iron Wall (We and the Arabs):

    "Zionist colonization must either be terminated or carried out against the wishes of the native population. This colonization can, therefore, be continued and make progress only under the protection of a power independent of the native population - an iron wall, which will be in a position to resist the pressure to the native population. This is, in toto, our policy towards the Arabs... A voluntary reconciliation with the Arabs is out of the question either now or in the future."


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    ""If you wish to colonize a land in which people are already living, you must provide a garrison for the land, or find some 'rich man' or benefactor who will provide a garrison on your behalf. Or else-or else, give up your colonization, for without an armed force which will render physically impossible any attempt to destroy or prevent this colonization, colonization is impossible, not "difficult', not 'dangerous', but IMPOSSIBLE!.."
    ." ( Jabotinsky )
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    The British soon realized what a grave problem they had created for themselves by sponsoring Zionism in Palestine. The Arab riots of 1920, 1921, 1929 and 1936-39 brought one British investigating commission after another to Palestine, all reaching the same conclusion - the cause of unrest in Palestine was massive Jewish immigration into a land already inhabited by Arabs.
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    In 1944 the terrorist underground Jewish group, the Irgun Zvai Leumi, began a partisan war to drive the British out of Palestine. The many bloody misdeeds of this group included assassinating British Soldiers, raiding British military depots, assassinating the British High Commissioner in Egypt, dynamiting the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, etc. until the British finally quit Palestine on May 15, 1948.
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    Zionist collaboration with fascist .

    "Zionism was founded on the mutual incompatibility of Jew and Gentile. As such it had a built in incentive for collaborating with another ideology built on the incompatibility of Jew and Gentile - Nazism.

    Zionist collaboration with National Socialism dates almost from the inception of the Hitler regime. The Ha'avara, or Transfer Agreement dates from May, 1933. Under this arrangement approximately 10% or 50-60,000 of Germany's 500-600,000 Jews were sent to Palestine with their assets minus an exit tax. This fulfilled the Zionist desire to reroute Jews to Palestine while promoting the Nazi desire to rid Germany of Jewish influence. Zionism enjoyed the official favoritism of the Hitler government. Numerous articles praising Zionism appeared in the German press. Dr. Joseph Goebbels, Reich Propaganda Minister, commissioned a special medallion commemorating Zionism.

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    The Zionist blue and white flag was the only national symbol permitted to fly in Germany other than the swastika. More importantly, special Zionist training camps existed in Germany to train German Jews for agricultural work in Palestine.

    On at least one occasion, Chaim Weizmann the future first president of Israel vetoed the Rublee-Schact plan of January, 1939 which would have removed all Jews from Germany within a five year period. Weizmanns reason for so doing?


    He felt it was preferable to leave the Jews under German control so that they could later be sent to Palestine, rather that allow them to choose their own destination. In this regard Weizmann endorsed the thinking of his political rival, David Ben-Gurion: "If I knew that it would be possible to save all the children in Germany by bringing them over to England, and only half of them by transporting them to Eretz Yisrael, then I would opt for the second alternative. For we must weigh not only the life of these children, but also the history of the People of Israel." (Yoar-Gelber, Zionist Policy and the Fate of European Jewry (1939-42), Yad Vashem Studies, vol. XII,p.199.)

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    The above are just few facts I've recently come across + which I'm sure Israeli Zionists would prefer it to remain . hidden .


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  3. DrewBedson

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    From the book written by antisemitic Agent J.M.N. Jeffries.:clapping:
     
  4. Marlowe

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    IMO it doesn't matters where , its from , the fact remains that YOU cannot disprove it.

    btw - I see you've now got the CLAP - I advise you to seek medical advice on how to treat the CLAP .

    Go here :

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100126152722AAGhMVT




    :roflol:
     
  5. Marlowe

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    let's try again :

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    good luck - lol
     
  6. DrewBedson

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    Sure can;

    Marlowe "The Covenant of the League of Nations which provided the international legal basis for establishing a British protectorate, or "Mandate" over Palestine was largely written by the Zionist agent, South African general Jan Smuts. The drafting of the language of the actual Mandate was written by U.S. Zionist and Harvard Law Professor Felix Frankfurter at the Paris Peace Conference in 1919."

    Covenant of the League of Nations

    You see Jan Smuts name anywhere there Marlowe?:clapping:

    No, it is applause for me successfully destroying yet another of your hubraic posts. But don't let that stop you from thinking I have a disease as it seems to lower the romantic overtures you send my way in the form of winks.
     
  7. HBendor

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    Drew I just received this in the mail this instant... I think this is quite humerous besides being to the point, read on.

    AN OPEN LETTER TO THE PRIME MINISTER of the UK

    Dear Mr Cameron,

    After four years of the Smoking Ban, ten thousand pubs have disappeared in the UK.

    Just imagine what could happen if you banned Halal meat!

    Give it some thought please!

    Regards,



    A concerned citizen
     
  8. Marlowe

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    Wiki is best taken with a pinch of salt - not the most reliable source - considering how its regularly amended by Zionist Hasbarisst - or don't you know that ?

    You''ve got much to learn abt the role of Jan Smuts (a South African Christian Zionist ) + other Zionists played in the drafting of documents relating the League of Nations British Palestine Mandate .

    Go learn + go find a cure for your CLAP
     
  9. DrewBedson

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    Was taken from a book "Northedge, F. S. (1986). The League of Nations: Its life and times, 1920–1946. Leicester University Press. ISBN 0-7185-1194-8." which was never amended Marlowe.

    Oh, the guy who's name is not mentioned anywhere but in your anti Zionist heroes bookand yet is a key author huh? .:roflol:

    Sorry, thought you knew this already but I don't take orders from mistaken denialists on the internet. :clapping:
     
  10. Marlowe

    Marlowe New Member

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    #

    That goes to show how little you know and why your Zionist thought controllers never told you / mentioned the involvement / part played by the Boer Afrikaner - South African/ Christian Zionist Jan Christian Smuts.:roflol:

    Go learn..
     
  11. DrewBedson

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    Your source says he was an agent. Nowhere is this found to be supported.

    Go learn how to do your research please and stop wasting bandwidth.:roflol:
     
  12. Marlowe

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    Your handicap /problem is that you're too deeply entrenched closed minded and like a donkey too obstinate to examine any new information - counter to yr Zionists thought controller's indoctrination.

    Jan Christian Smuts was great supporter of Zionism who played an important role in drafting League of Nations documents regarding Jews and Palestine.


    Dumbo , Relax - keep calm and - Go learn ...



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  13. DrewBedson

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    Not an agent Marlowe. Perhaps you and your source need a dictionary prior to spreading your mIsinformation.
     
  14. Marlowe

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    Same difference.

    However , After displaying yr earlier ignorance , I'm pleased , that you've , finally - appear to have learnt the role of Jan Smuts (a Christian Zionist ) + in the drafting + conniving of the original League of Nations documents re: Palestine Mandate

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    tata ..
     
  15. DrewBedson

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    Marlowe, a supporter is hardly an agent. Your anti Semitic author is doing what all denialists are so fond of - finding a small tidbit and play it like it was the most important thing in the world. Smuts was not an agent. As for earlier ignorance, I take it you have come up with the source of shrunken heads and soap made of Jews and found it was not the Jews or have you finally admitted that Hoess was not tortured due to lack of evidence supporting this foolish contention?
     
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    Hmmm.. got rid of clap cool
    But what about that roflol , did not find a remedy for that dangerous situation ? ha.,ha..ha..
    I hope HA.. is not a sickness...yet ?
     
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    humanitarian crimes ... Like those we see in Syria 150000 murdered , and remind me what is the UN doing about it ?
    WHAT
    " property theft ... " How can we steal our own god given land ?
    . and ethnic cleansing " They dont like it here so they leave themselves " and more do u know how many thousands of arab women r marring beduim and staying in israel each having 10-14 children .. so as to balance that...we sadly need to let some go .
     
  18. Marlowe

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    Agent /supporter each word have several definition - i.e. "synonyms: advocate, backer, adherent, promoter, champion, defender, upholder, votary, partisan, proponent, campaigner, believer, apologist etc.etc take yr pick . He certainly worked in the interests of Zionism + his Jewish friends.


    Zionists + Yad Vashem finally admitted the Jew soap story was a lie after it was disputed by others several decades earlier.

    After the war, supposed Holocaust victims were solemnly buried, in the form of soap bars, in Jewish cemeteries. In 1948, for example, four such bars wrapped in a funeral shroud were ceremoniously buried according to Jewish religious ritual at the Haifa cemetery in Israel. Other bars of "Jewish soap" have been displayed as grim Holocaust relics at the Jewish Historical Institute in Warsaw, the Stutthof Museum near Gdansk (Danzig), the Yivo Institute in New York, the Holocaust Museum in Philadelphia, the Jewish Holocaust Centre in Melbourne (Australia), and at various locations in Israel."Jewish soap" - exhibited on Mount Zion in Jerusalem, 1972.]

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    Grave marker in Atlanta's Greenwood Cemetery. It reads, "Here rest four bars of soap, the last Earthly remains of Jewish victims of the Nazi Holocaust."

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    Romania, Postwar, The burial of soap collected by the Jewish community.
    Belongs to collection: Yad Vashem Photo Archive

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    Ya Arabs,
    You are modern nazi with lap tops.
    You want to occupy Europe and to take control over ALL Middle east.
    The world hates you, Allah hates you cause you are not true Muslims.
    Go play in the bathroom with soap..
     
  20. Marlowe

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    Mel Mermelstein, the former Auschwitz inmate who was featured in the sensationalized April 1991 cable television movie "Never Forget" (and who sued the Institute for Historical Review and three other defendants for $11 million), declared in a 1981 sworn deposition that he and other camp inmates used soap bars made from human fat. It was an "established fact," he insisted, that the soap he washed with was made from Jewish bodies.


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    Renowned "Nazi hunter" Simon Wiesenthal repeated the soap tale in a series of articles published in 1946 in the Austrian Jewish community paper Der Neue Weg. In the first of these he wrote:

    During the last weeks of March the Romanian press reported an unusual piece of news: In the small Romanian city of Folticeni twenty boxes of soap were buried in the Jewish cemetery with full ceremony and complete funeral rites. This soap had been found recently in a former German army depot. On the boxes were the initials RIF, "Pure Jewish Fat." These boxes were destined for the Waffen-SS. The wrapping paper revealed with completely cynical objectivity that this soap was manufactured from Jewish bodies. Surprisingly, the thorough Germans forgot to describe whether the soap was produced from children, girls, men or elderly persons.

    Wiesenthal went on:

    After 1942 people in the General Government [Poland] knew quite well what the RIF soap meant. The civilized world may not believe the joy with which the Nazis and their women in the General Government thought of this soap. In each piece of soap they saw a Jew who had been magically put there, and had thus been prevented from growing into a second Freud, Ehrlich or Einstein.

    In another article he observed: "The production of soap from human fat is so unbelievable that even some who were in concentration camps find it difficult to comprehend."

    Over the years, numerous supposedly reputable historians have promoted the durable soap story. Journalist-historian William L. Shirer, for example, repeated it in his best-selling work, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.

    Leading Soviet war propagandist Ilya Ehrenburg wrote in his postwar memoir: "I have held in my hand a cake of soap stamped with the legend 'pure Jewish soap', prepared from the corpses of people who had been destroyed. But there is no need to speak of these things: thousands of books have been written about them."

    A standard history studies textbook used in Canadian secondary schools, Canada: The Twentieth Century, told students that the Germans "boiled" the corpses of their Jewish victims "to make soap." The Anatomy of Nazism, a booklet published and distributed by the Zionist "Anti-Defamation League" of B'nai B'rith, stated: "The process of brutalization did not end with the mass murders themselves. Large quantities of soap were manufactured from the corpses of those murdered."

    A detailed 1981 work, Hitler's Death Camps, repeated the soap story in lurid detail. While noting that "some historians claim that the Nazi manufacture of soap from human fat is just a grim rumor," author Konnilyn Feig nevertheless accepted the story because "most East European camp scholars ... validate the soap stories, and other kinds of bars made from humans are displayed in Eastern Europe -- I have seen many over the years."

    New York Rabbi Arthur Schneier repeated the tale at the opening ceremony of the largest Holocaust meeting in history. In his invocation to the "American Gathering of Jewish Holocaust Survivors," held in Washington in April 1983, the Rabbi solemnly declared: "We remember the bars of soap with the initials RJF -- Rein jüdisches Fett, Pure Jewish Fat -- made from the bodies of our loved ones."



    In fact, blame for the soap story lies rather with individuals such as Simon Wiesenthal and Stephen Wise, organizations like the World Jewish Congress, and the victorious Allied powers, none of whom has ever apologized for promoting this vile falsehood
     
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    Whats the "reply with post " My whole post u doing just wasting space and then answering in one sentence ?
    U can say that u refer to my post number and date , and those who really care will take the pain and follow , those who do not care will nor see or care your "reply with post "
    Is there a sentence about my post u disagree ? . if yes tell me what ! if not just say i dont care what u post or say and all u care is your 1 sentence thus not wasting place .
    I have an answer for u .. but first tell me what u didnt like in my post and why.. prove me wrong !!!
     
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    i cannot comment on this anti holocaust post, it is illegal to do such inCanada.

    the line has been crossed people
     
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    Could you be anymore hateful?

    Between 10,000 BC and 6,000 BC there were many Arab migrations.. because the Arabian peninsula was changing from a Savannah type environment to an arid environment. They went north to the Levant, Syria-Palestine and Mesopotamia.
     
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    [video]http://www.teachinghearts.org/dre00timeline.html[/video] THe everlasting covenent.GIF The world was born 4230 bc and there was no such thing as Arabs then !
    What u may be talking about r other nations that may be living in area called Arabia today
     

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