It’s The Holidays Season, Time For The Imaginary “War on Christmas”

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It seems Starbucks has fired the first shot in this years conservative Christians’ imaginary “War on Christmas”.

Since the holidays include “Thanksgiving” (which propagates the myth of a turkey/dressing/cranberry feast where the Native Americans joined the Pilgrims), “Hanukkah” (the Jewish celebration which is not a single day, like Xmas), “Christmas” (which IS a single day celebration and just one day of the holiday season), “Kwanzaa” (Honoring the values of ancient African cultures), “New Year’s Eve” (A night of partying for many celebrating... the passage of time.), “New Year’s Day” (celebrating hangovers, college football, floral parades, and the beginning of another calendar year), the number of events encompassed by this period makes the conservative Christians’ demand that “Merry Christmas” be the only statement used to acknowledge this time of year rather silly.

Starbucks' attack consists of, “new cups for the holiday season, which are solid red with the green Starbucks logo in the middle, with no candy canes, reindeer, or snowmen.”

The attack was noticed, not in the U.S., but in the U.K. by MP David Burrowes, a conservative Christian of the British Parliament. Perhaps right wing Christians here at home missed this blatant offense, fortunately for them, MP Burrowes didn't.

So, with nearly two months ahead of us until the holiday ordeal is over, be prepared for the right wing Christians’ paranoia to run rampant, as they see attacks on their religion and Christmas committed on an hourly basis.

Happy Holidays!

http://news.yahoo.com/starbucks-brewing-war-christmas-191336750.html


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There is no such thing as a war on Christmas.

 

Due to the right-wingers' paranoia, any other opinions, beliefs, thoughts, views, or any opposing argument is a war on their religion, individual rights, philosophy, etc. This "war" on them limits or eliminates their ability to cram their intrusive agenda down the throats of all Americans (and in some cases, people of other countries).

Just read their posts on these message boards, they are the self-proclaimed experts that know all things, and therefore, must have the final say in the way all people live their lives.

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I'm an Atheist and I agree and all that, but quite clearly you're baiting them into a forceful response. The moderate response isn't to go around blurting "happy holidays" at conservatives in an obnoxious way, it's to simply be yourself and use whatever term you bloody like.

I agree that this is a non-issue, however - it becomes an issue because of posts like your OP.

 

Cool. Then you'll be fine with the city putting up Merry Christmas signs all around town instead of Happy Holidays then?

 

I remember being in 1st Grade listening to my teacher telling us students how the poor HEATHEN INDIAN'S were INVITED to join the JESUS LOVING PILGRIMS who were sad that the POOR STARVING GODLESS HEATHEN INDIANS HAD NO FOOD so the Pilgrims invited them to what would become the First Thanksgiving Dinner! LOL!!!

Of course I had been taught by my parents who are both very smart and well educated people who hold multiple degrees that the PILGRIMS were the one's STARVING as being from England which has very mild winters due to the warm waters of the Gulf Stream which travel from the Gulf of Mexico around the tip of Florida and head up and across the Atlantic to the British Isles giving them such mild winter weather......and the Pilgrims were just not prepared or experienced with dealing with such harsh and cold New England Winters which killed the vast majority of them.

The Indian's saw the suffering of the Pilgrims and brought them Venison and Wild Turkey and they also taught the Pilgrims how to properly plant and fertilize Maze seed by digging a hole and dropping in a fish and a seed so the corn would come up.

Also I was taught that Christmas and Easter were of course at one time Pagan Holidays as Christmas was the celebration of the Winter Solstice usually on Dec. 21st as people had been cutting down trees and bringing them into their homes to decorate for 1000 years before Jesus was even born.

As well I was taught how Easter was really the Pagan Spring Equinox Celebration of the Fertility Goddess ESTER as were do people think the whole thing about putting green grass in a basket along with eggs, chicks, bunnies and spring flowers come from??? LOL!!!

People were painting eggs and hiding them for their children to find 1000 years before Jesus was crucified as well!

Funny thing.....the Church did everything in it's power to attempt to BAN CHRISTMAS as the Church felt Christmas should be about prayer and reflection but those really fun and cool Pagan Rituals of having a real pretty and decorate tree in one's house with presents under it and goodies hung o branches of the tree just was IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE CHURCH TO GET RID OF!! LOL!!!

AboveAlpha

 

Why not Happy Holidays/Merry Christmas/Happy Hanukkah/ A Wonderful Kwanzaa/and a Happy New Year? Christians should be fine with that. With banners and signs like this, there is no "war" on anyone since no single group is stealing the holiday season all for themselves. Not the Jews with Happy Hanukkah. Not the African-Americans with Kwanzaa. Not the religiously indifferent with Happy Holidays. Not the Christians with Merry Christmas.

Is that holiday equality conservative Christians can accept?

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You are certainly pis(*)ing in the conservative Christians' Cheerios telling them these tidbits of truth.

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Christmas is just a name given to a Celebration that has been going on each year for a 1000 years before Jesus even existed.

There is absolutely NOTHING that is specific to religion in the standard understanding of what Christmas really is....that being a day where Parents put gifts under a tree pretending to be Santa and smaller gifts inside sox hung up by a fireplace if one exists.

As well a balsam, fir or artificial tree decorated with balls and lights is the norm.

Not much religion there.

Many Jewish, Muslim, Hindu...etc...people put up and decorate trees as well as it is more of a National Pastime for that month.

It doesn't have anywhere near the same religion specific connotations as say...Hanukkah or Ramadan.

AboveAlpha

 

You're urinating in the right-wingers' Cheerios again.

 

The atheists wouldn't like it.

Actually, I don't like people murdering trees unnecessarily to celebrate a holiday.

Why not just cut and bring in a nice Christmas Tree Branch?

 

It's all a fact though! LOL!!

I once got in a huge argument with a distant relative about both the day Jesus was born not being Dec. 25th...it was in Sept. I believe....and how Easter was really ESTER.

She became absolutely LIVID and almost violent!!

So much for love and forgiveness!

AboveAlpha

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There is nothing wrong if a person uses Dec. 25th as the day to celebrate the birth of Jesus.

But there is also nothing wrong with a person knowing the facts.

AboveAlpha

 

Facts and conservatism are like oil and water.

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My family did that when I was a kid. My Dad welded together a center pipe the size of a pine trunk on a base with smaller tubes sticking out where branches could be fit. We then cut branches off pine trees on our property to make our Xmas tree. It was shaped better than most real trees since all branches could be measured and cut to fit. Looked great and no trees were killed.

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Well I am a Conservative in that I am Fiscally Conservative and Socially Liberal.

I usually vote GOP in Presidential elections but lately the GOP has been a bit clueless.

The Republican Party needs to dump the Religious Extremists and get back to being the Party that want's to create an environment that is conductive to small and large business growth which in turn creates JOBS.

That is my GOP.

What has been going on of late I have no idea!

AboveAlpha

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Trees are a renewable resource and there are more trees in my state of Massachusetts now then there were in the late 1600's!!!

There is no problem with growing Christmas trees and cutting them down as long as you replant them and as this is big business that is EXACTLY what we do!

AboveAlpha

 

Great, no trees were killed...the production of that steel pipe released many times more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than if you just got a live tree every year but at least it makes you feel like you did something beneficial...even though you didn't.

 

Let me guess - killing a tree (with no brain) is murder... but aborting a fetus isn't.

 

Being non religious, I don't have any problems Merry Christmas signs and religious Christmas paraphernalia round the city and in shopping centres. Being Australian, I just don't give a sh!te.

The first time I heard anyone say "Happy Holidays" to me was an American work college in Laos. I just thought - what are you talking about? I'll go on wishing my family and friends Merry Christmas.

This war on Christmas is bloody stupid and a figment of the imagination.

 

Certainly are nit-picky today, aren't we? This happened over sixty years ago, and the material for the "tree" was remnant from my Dad's business. It seems he was ahead of his time for re-purposing and recycling. But being "green" is condemned by the right wing, they obviously believe we live on a disposable planet.

But they can never answer the question of where they plan to find a new world to live on when they've used this one up.

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It's impossible to be fiscally conservative and socially liberal at the same time.

 

Uhhh....it's VERY easy to be so.

I very much support being fiscally conservative and keeping a close eye upon the way we spend money and whether or not we need certain things and what programs are working or not as per their cost.

At the same time I have no issue with Gay Marriage and as I am from Massachusetts which was the first state in the union to have developed Universal Heathcare I KNOW it costs more money for the state and federal government to pay back unpaid Ambulance and Hospital ER Visits than it costs to run Universal Heathcare.

Massachusetts saved BILLIONS OF DOLLARS running Romney Care and we saved close to $200 MILLION IN THE FIRST QUARTER that Romney Care was up and running!!!

It's a simple fact of being FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE for one to realize that because no one in the United States can be refused Ambulance and ER Hospital service and care that the state and federal governments must pay back unpaid Ambulance and ER Bills to those companies and that the COST of running Universal Healthcare is FAR CHEAPER THAN PAYING THOSE UNPAID BILLS!!!

I am a FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE SOCIALLY LIBERAL PROGRESSIVE MODERATE who usually votes Republican in Presidential Elections and the vast majority of American's ARE MODERATE AS WELL!!

We are the SILENT MAJORITY BY FAR and it is WE who determine who will be elected as we are SWING VOTERS because we do not vote for Party but instead VOTE FOR THE BEST POSSIBLE CANDIDATE FOR THE JOB OF PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!!!

We are the MAJORITY who will sweep out both Republican Ultra-Right Wing Zealots and Democratic Ultra-Left Wing Hypocrites as in order for this great nation to PROGRESS....both of these groups must be cut out of the fabric of this nation like a CANCER!!!

AboveAlpha

 

Living proof right here.

 

I agree the left and right extremes are insane, but I highly disagree that the swing voters are voting for the best possible candidates; they keep voting for whatever the extremist give us, toned down though they may be. Doesn't help that they seem to just run us into the same general direction regardless. Bush could have been president for the last 16 years and I don't think we'd have seen much of a difference.

 

Too late to do it this year, but next year...



Doesn't get much more green than that! Well except for all the water, electricity, fertilizer... still it'll be used so no more a waste than growing an indoor tomato.

 

Ultra-Right Wing Religious Voters will NEVER vote Democratic.

A Moderate will.

I usually vote for the GOP Presidential Candidate and it's KILLING ME to think my choices might be HILLARY.....UUUHGGG!

Or Trump....unreal.

AboveAlpha