It has begun. New Republican totalitarian Congress to ban abortion after 20 weeks

How do right-wingers know which fetuses wish to be born?

 

Still rhetorical and asinine. Your question was about being happy to be born.

 

it is not a valid point now, nor has it ever been.

It simply does not matter, when people consent to a risk they do not necessarily consent to the injuries incurred from that risk, if they did then no person who smoked and had cancer would receive treatment, no person who engaged in dangerous sports would receive treatment for any injuries, no person who had sex and contracted an STD would receive treatment. So yes your argument is asinine.

You really do need to spend some time actually researching consent laws and what they mean.

Stupid response that you have given aside, it does not matter, it is irrelevant, it means nothing, nil, zero.

Look, if you decide one day to go out shooting knowing that there is a chance that you could be injured and it happens you do get injured, say you get shot by another hunter, according to your logic you have no right to expect medical treatment, after all you knew the risks involved. Why is it you can have medical treatment to avail those injuries when you knew and still took the risk but a woman cannot, who basically and legally has done nothing different to you ie she knew the risk and still took it.. there is no law that allows a person who took a risk to suffer prolonged injury that may be the result from that risk, even criminals who take risks of injury while committing a crime are not denied medical treatment should they be injured, in effect you are stating that a criminal has more right to treatment than a non-criminal.

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Yet more irrelevant comments from you.

 

Im not going to read it because of your insults. Please read the forum rules. Also erroneous opinion? Facepalm...that explains a lot...not everything but a lot.

 

Question stung ya did it? Cant admit you are glad YOU werent aborted but dont care that others dont have a chance to answer that asinine question. We could ask them when they got older but.....eh...you guys killed em before they had the chance.

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Easy better to err on the side of caution and ask them later than to kill them. Once dead they can never answer...right?

 

You are not going to read it because you are scared that you may discover you know little about the subject. You are so far out of your depth here that it is painfully funny to watch, an insult is only an insult if it is not true and you have certainly displayed that everything I have said is true.

erroneous - Wrong; incorrect: - http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/erroneous
opinion - A view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge: - http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/opinion

so yes your opinion is not based on fact or knowledge (that much is obvious) and it is in fact wrong and incorrect, thank you also displaying your lack of comprehension of the English language.

 

Are you kidding? There isnt a single insult in either post.

 

nope not better to err on the side of caution when that involves forcing other people to become gestation chambers against their consent .. but that of course is the pro-lifers wet dream.

 

From asinine question to asinine answer. No wonder you lose all the time. You dont know me nor do you know how i feel about life

 

Elective abortions do not affect fetuses which wish not to be born. Fetuses at the development level when elective abortions occur do not have wishes----they have NO brain to wish anything with.

 

Hilarious. My opinion is wrong because you said so. Have you noticed you are completely off topic? I know its difficult for you but please stop the insults and try to get back on topic.
Erroneous opinion. LOL knee slapper. Ill read anything you have to say when you correct your posts to meet forum guidelines.

 

WHAT decision did I make for others? NONE.

""""Do as I say but not as I did""" ???WTF? I didn't decide to be born??? What is wrong with you???


How I feel about my life has nothing to do with the FACT that abortion should be a LEGAL CHOICE for women....and only total idiocy could connect those two things....

 

That's the point grannie. You can answer the question now because you were born. What about those who were killed, how many of them do you think would have wanted to be born? Give your best guess in % 10? 50? 85?
None of you pro choicers have stated you wished you hadn't been born so....interesting enough, so far all of you pro choicers.....ALL of you are glad YOU weren't aborted.
Are you thankful to be alive? Its a yes or no.

 

Women do NOT hold all those cards, they cannot force a man to have sex without violating the law and being held accountable for that. Men can just say no. (Or can't they?) If men will just say no, they can end abortion quickly. The fact that women can say no doesn't relieve men from the responsibility of saying no. All powerful women have borne the burden of responsibility for sex since the beginning of time---it's now time that the burden shifts and men take on their fair share of the responsibility. Just say NO!

 

no you didn't decide did you. Some one else let you be born. Yes........wriggle and writhe away from the question. It proves me correct. A simple question has all of your fire trucks out.
You are defending a stance that it is acceptable for others to be killed.
There is nothing wrong with me, Im not the one defending taking innocent life you are. What is wrong with you?

 

It's a safe bet that few people would ever choose or "wish" to grow up in a household where they are unwanted. But it's totally immaterial because the fetus doesn't have a brain to wish anything and neither does it have a brain to feel regret.

 

STRAWMAN. The issue was its the womans body. If that is true then my stance was she is responsible for understanding that if she has consensual sex then she should realize she could get pregnant. Are you aware that you can get pregnant from sex?
Consensual sex means they both are responsible only in your worlds the man has no say in whether or not the mother aborts the child? right?

 

I know the fetus doesn't have a brain. Strawman #2. I asked YOU if you were thankful to be alive. I asked you because you have a brain and can tell me the answer. We are all FORMER fetuses. Therefore we will tally how many of you former fetuses are glad you weren't killed. I will assume yes for all non answers and therefore we are at 100% of you are glad you weren't aborted. Now that you are born though, you seem to think you should be able to deny others that same right to live.

 

I suspect, like me, Grannie does not make wild guesses without any basis of evidence or fact.

Jumping to conclusions I see.

The question is still irrelevant, and by your own logic off topic.

 

The man could stop a woman from aborting his child. How can he do that? I've been saying it over and over, JUST SAY NO! If the man wants power, he must refuse the woman's begging and pleading for him to have sex with her.

 

Which is irrelevant to the issue of abortion, whether a woman knows the risk or not has absolutely zero bearing on whether she is forced to suffer a non-consented pregnancy - which is what you want to make her do.

Still waiting for your evidence to support that a person who knowingly takes a risk is denied treatment for any injuries that occur from that risk

Are you aware that it is irrelevant to the issue.

As it should be as it is not his body that is being injured, should a woman ask the rapists father/mother for permission to stop him raping her?

 

So you actually believe the woman has no say in whether or not she has consensual sex? Of course the man can say no..SO CAN THE WOMAN, the one you guys are claiming is her body.
Also, have the forum rules changed?

 

Consensual sex means they both know and accept the risks of pregnancy. Also, you can say it irrelevant a 100 more times. It isn't going to make it so anymore than it did the first time. But feel free to keep saying it.

 

The woman can say no; the woman can choose an abortion. IF the man wants the power to stop a woman from choosing abortion, he must say NO! If the man participated in causing the pregnancy, he has no high ground to stand upon. He must then back off and allow the woman to do whatever she believes is best.