It just seems silly.

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  1. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What he is doing is committing political suicide. He has already pulled the trigger. He could at least try to do the moral thing, that would actually help America's stance in the world, rather than making us no better than Iran by sponsoring terrorists.
    His career is over either way. No way does he ever hold any office again, including President. Maybe he could salvage some of his soul.
     
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    He has a better chance than Biden.
     
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    Kennedy has a better chance than Biden? No way.
     
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    I don't think hid support for Israel is hurting Old Joe.
    You might be right about him not winning, but I don't think it's because of our support for Israel.
     
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    I seriously doubt Biden makes it to the election, health wise, let alone win after the debates. No one will vote for him if he refuses to debate anyway, and no one will vote for him when he gets his ass handed to him at the debates. He barely has the mental faculties to just speak at the podium, let alone hold his own in a vigorous debate.

    Of course SOME die-hards will still vote for him regardless, but he has alienated a huge segment of the left. He is in trouble, big time, politically.
     
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    If he really wants to bring drug companies to heel, Kennedy should go after them for the amount they charge. He's doing a lot of damage zeroing in on vaccines.

    His spasmodic dysphonia and overfocusing make him come off as a bit wooly.
     
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    Parroted propaganda aside, of what crimes has the President been convicted, and how many felony counts is he facing?

    Unlike airy-fairy slimefests, the law requires credible evidence, of course.
     
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    RFK has no chance to get the Democratic Party nomination or win as a third party candidate. At this point, both Biden and Trump have a chance.
    I think you're mistaking his inaction on obvious problems like the border to being feeble.
     
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    I see the border as a silly distraction that neither party wants to get rid of. Biden's feebleness has nothing to do with that.
     
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    Churchill was a bright man and a great leader. The problem is always government itself, not its form. Government is ruined by politics and human greed.
     
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    On the left sees it as you do. Only the left wants to import illegal aliens as future voters.
     
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    That is part of RFK's position, and has been for a long time. He's not 'zeroing in on vaccines.' The media is doing that. I found this, underneath about 50 articles (many just regurgitations of eachother) on how he's such a 'conspiracy theorist' that make no mention of his many other more mainstream reforms he calls for in the medical and pharmaceutical industries.

    RFKs full platform is not going to be delivered for you by corporate media. They butter their bread on the pharmaceutical advertizing side, and RFK is a threat to that money train. If you wanna know what he's really about, you're gonna have to go looking for it yourself.

    ...which is why he doesnt have much chance in 2024, and why you're gonna get Trump instead.

    Bernie Sanders Vows to Tackle Drug Prices — RFK Jr. Says Sanders ‘Shouldn’t Stop There’ • Children's Health Defense (childrenshealthdefense.org)
     
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    Oh, conviction matters now? So, what, only for Biden? Trump isn't convicted of insurrection or russia collusion.

    You missed the point anyway. The thread is more about people acting on perceptions than on factual evidence. I thought I made that clear with the pissing hookers that never happened.
     
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    Yeah, it's clear and been clear for a while that Israel is targeting the civilian population of Gaza and that to me is a red line. One of the reasons I thought terrorists to be cowardly was attacking civilian populations, instead of military targets. Is the Israeli military that inept that it cannot decisively defeat HAMAS without resorting to war crimes?

    We need to hold our so-called ME allies to the same Western standards we hold ourselves to.
     
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    Agreed.
    Also agree.

    Biden knows what's going on. He's pandering to an element in his party that's akin to MAGA types on the right--destructive and uninterested in issues facing other people.
     
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    He has the option of countering the media narrative and isn't.
    He needs to change the narrative.
    I have looked. He's going nowhere fast.
     
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    How exactly is he supposed to counter the corporate media narrative? He goes on pretty much any platform that will have him to get his message out. The corporate media cherry picks out what fits its narrative and reports nothing else. How does one get CNN/MSNBC/WP/NYT/etc to report things they dont want to report? How does one get folks to instead pay attention to alternative media sources?
     
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    Tell people something they don't know. Play against type--NYC Mayor Adams. Propose intelligent solutions. Force them to report what you say for fear they're going to miss out on something interesting.
     

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