It was a bomb, not a second plane, who said a second plane...I saw it no second plane!

I think it’s been called … trutherism is dead …

 

If trutherism is dead, then liarism rules the day.



Trutherism isnt dead, just silenced.

Look at it from the bright side, now the oct believers have the threads all to themselves!

 

Hmmm, well they're pretty much the same thing. The word "truther" has been stolen by conspiracy theorists in an attempt to validate their batshit. It is such a damn liberty to suggest that conspiracy theorists are looking for, or have discovered, the truth!

And once again, both are true(the second one though is short-term I reckon).

Well considering this horseshit should never have come up in the first place, that is hardly a moment to cheer about!

 

Oh my, the no good rotten thieves, stealing a word, grand theft how despicable! Did they prosecute them yet?
Nah we know all truth comes from oct believers!

Cant be, I said it and I am not a believer.

Yeh, total horseshit! Yes very true! The guv has never in history lied to us! How could anyone possibly think such horseshit up anyway, thats why I conceded all arguments to the believers. Enjoy the 911 section!

 

Occam's razor trumps batshit.

Non sequitur.

Yet here you are still.

You think people are going to post in this crappy sub-forum when there's no batshit to respond to?


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Ah yes Occams Razor, the simplest **** for simpleton dups always trumps batshit complexities of reality.
good point!

Theres plenty of batshit to respond to, but its unlikely truthers will respond under the conditions they are subjected to.

I want to make sure I dont miss conceding to any of your claims.

All hail the OCT!

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Now face Washington and recite after me.....Our government who art in heaven.....

The mob be with you all!

 

You need to be careful, you're in danger of stumbling on the real truth and confusing it with sarcasm.

Wait, what!? You are having "conditions" applied to you? Don't make me laugh!
Let me also reiterate, using the word "truther" to label your actions doesn't make them actions that deal with the truth.

I have accepted our concession, yet here you are STILL.

Non sequitur AND a big fat strawman, would you like me to explain this? All ridicule the idea there wasn't planes. Doing so does not mean subservience to any government.

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The trouble with eye witness testimony is that the perspective of the witness, especially in this case. Where was he standing? On the ground? On which side of the building.

Depending upon where he was standing, which we don't know in this case, his view was blocked. Not rocket science.

There were bombs in the buildings, that's been determined. He heard explosions, but he didn't see the airplane because he was in the wrong location.

 

I wasnt fortunate enough to be issued a guardian angel at the door.

Oh yes, I concede to "ALL ridicule", clearly you are correct, every human alive.
I didnt know such an in depth research project took place but since its your claim I concede.

The only danger I stumbled on was stupid assessments to complex matters.

Ah thanks, I need a good secretary, start tomorrow.

 

crenshaw was on the right side of the building looking up and he neither heard nor saw a plane.

Oh wait Oops it slipped, I almost forgot, I conceded that ALL ridicule the idea of no plane.

Nope the OCT (Official CON-spiracy Theory) believers say there wasnt so you better concede now before you too are smitten!

Now face Washington and beg mercy for your sins.

 

Why are we still getting noise here?

Still this batshit about close up "witnesses" who didn't see the plane travelling at 550mph, when hundreds saw it from a little further back.

According to these people, there weren't any planes at all, let alone Arabs.

 

Of course you did! Everyone saw a second plane on tv! lol
We saw it 150 times per day for 2 years ad nauseum.

Doesnt matter, planers always wear their eye and ear protection.

Oh yes I concede, crenshaw is both blind and deaf.

 

All the first responders I cited saw it directly. People who know residents who were there, know that a large percentage of them were outside watching it for real rather than sat in front of a damn TV!

 

I suspect Crenshaw is telling the truth as best he knows it, but that doesn't really matter.

Here is a fact/story that proves that a Boeing crashed into the South Tower, whether Crenshaw happened to see it or not.

'Part of 9/11 plane landing gear' found in New York - BBC News That is from April 2013. Naturally the cops went all secret and would not let any civilian organization examine it to compare the serial and parts numbers. That, because the airplane was one of a group modified by Dov Zakheim's Israeli organization.

A Boeing hit the south tower, but it was not UA175.

 

My god it's relentless!

We have "911-truthers" pushing no-planes, or only 2 real planes in NY, or fake planes everywhere, or real planes but it was a nuke, or real planes and it was a space weapon and god knows what else. Is it any wonder that conspiracy theorists are the object of derision? Why can't you go off and work it out between yourselves because this is all so very absurd:

@Eleuthera so no passenger planes in NY huh? What happened to the real planes that took off, where did they land, how did they make them land, where are the passengers or who killed them all? And so much more - here.

What a complete crock.

 

So then you are claiming Crenshaw is deaf and could not hear a plane but did hear the explosion?

How do you add that one up?

Or most likely dragged! Thats from your source!
They dont believe it either!
Ropes and broken pulleys are not installed on aircraft landing gear and the idea it can 'fall' between the buildings without leaving so much as one nick or scratch anywhere is completely ludicrous!

Likewise others that neither saw nor heard a plane.

Yes nothing more than a story, NOT a fact!

 

Get a room, go off and argue amongst yourselves. I find it hilarious that "truthers", looking for the truf, can't even agree amongst themselves.
News flash, none of you are right and I could have sworn you conceded so what the hell are you doing here?

 

Yes anything you say!
I concede to everything!

Now if you dont mind I am trying to have a conversation with @Eleuthera

 

I do mind. When you start talking about idiotic things concerning the absence of planes in New York you are going back on what you said. PM him, because watching two "truthers" gibbering on about whose batshit is the least pungent is not great reading.

 

Neither @Eleuthera nor I am talking about "batshit" because batshit would be off topic and that is truly boring reading, in fact its so boring if people were forced to read all the batshit from the planer camp they would lose the will to live.

Maybe you can start a new thread on batshit?

Sorry there is no rule that says I have to PM anyone for any reason.

Easy, all you need to do is prove Crenshaw and everyone else that did not see a plane is both deaf and blind or that it was a silent plane, or a UFO!

We just have so many issues that dont add up in the real world.

Please allow @Eleuthera to speak his piece without butting in, there are others on this board that also have things to say.

Yes I concede to all your claims all the time!

I concede: Clearly Crenshaw and others are deaf and blind, and clearly Scotty beamed that gear between the buildings!

 

Nah, it's batshit.

You've opened enough of those already.

Who says there was?

Right after you prove that all the first responders are so afflicted in actually SEEING the damn plane!

No we don't. You just don't know how to "add them up" properly.

No problem, when he eventually gets round to it, you two can have even more fun.

Yet here you still are bumping this stupid thread and insisting there wasn't a damn plane!

YOU are the one saying they are "deaf and blind". There are other options. They weren't ideally placed. They're lying to get attention. "Looking straight up" suggests they are very close

I don't know what games you are playing here, but saying you concede, then you continue to post the same claims is chain-yanking.

 

Sorry Koko, it's been 20 years now. Sorry if I've missed it, but if you could send a diagram or other good information regarding where exactly Mr. Crenshaw was making his observations, I would greatly appreciate it. With that we could continue in a meaningful way.

The crash into the South tower showed large debris on the trajectory towards where the flap/gear pieces were found in 2013. Nobody drug it there.

 

Ok how about this, there was no plane in this video until he turned the clip in to the fbi

"I just caught the second explosion on videotape...No, a bomb, I saw it, NO PLANE HIT NOTHIN', the building exploded from the other tower floors down." At 2:15 he says it with 0 uncertainty.


Oh look it was scrubbed, imagine that. I seen his original video, there was no plane.

 

And we're still getting this total horseshit about no planes. Over a hundred first responders witnessed the plane but for some reason this guy who is "certain" he didn't see the plane means there wasn't one. Seriously pathetic.

 

I seen the original video it didnt last 24 hours before it was taken down, there was no plane in the video. Of course there was a blob they called a plane after he turned it into the fbi