It's not required by law to tip your waiter

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  1. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    This restaurant is well known for bad service. They have great pizza, but the worst service in town. I went there exactly twice after this. The next time I had great service (only time in my 5 times or so at this place), but it was because the bartender was taking a few tables to help out. He was awesome. The last time I went there, I was in a big group. I got my calzone an hour after the main party (son's soccer team) got their pizza. Got charged the 18% service charge on top of that. I didn't protest, but it was the last straw, I will never set foot in that restaurant again, and haven't eaten their takeout/delivered pizza since then. Thankfully, another good pizza place opened up close by.
     
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    Yep, it's coming soon.
     
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    I have no idea what you are even getting at
     
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    CHarging tips as part of the bill should not be allowed. The only reason it's frowned upon to not give them is because tiped jobs are paid no little in wages and they rely on tips to make a living. They need to raise the tipped minimum wage to 6.50 or so, and prohibit charging tips as part of the bill.
     
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    Tipping should be abolished.

    It's a feudalistic system left over from Victorian England.

    Total scam whereby the customer has to 'pay the wages' - total joke, IMO, ban it now!
     
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    or there are a lot of kids in school looking for a job to earn a living through their education. You know nothing about why. Speculate is like assuming and when a assuming, that makes an ass of the one doing the assuming.
     
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    Well, when looking for a job see how much the cost of an entree is and take 15% of that number, if that doesn't fit your expectation, go to a place where the cost of the entree gets you the amount 15% would make you happy. Quit acting like people are dumb, they are not, just those who think they know how others feel about their jobs. Which none of you do. Again, do some research, I did!
     
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    And that is how it is supposed to work. Poor service, no more business, it is really a simple concept. That the libs are trying to define their own way. LOL, they really crack me up. It is the God like syndrome.
     
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    It's already used at Chili's! Don't think that has hurt them at all, although, I haven't researched it enough. I don't think the tablet will work as expected. Again, used it at Chili's. It's like calling a business with an automated answering device, I prefer speaking to a human as do many, many others, and why auto programs haven't evolved as expected. Hit zero and get an operator, omit the tablet and get a server. It is easy.
     
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    Why?............

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    Well didn't you read what you wrote? I think my reply is quite understandable then. Thank you!
     
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    Dude, then don't eat out, avoid those mean old owners who give opportunities to other individuals you'd rather see on unemployment. Thanks, but no thanks!
     
  12. perdidochas

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    I went to Chili's in December while they were rolling out the service. I paid with the tablet, but didn't order. It won't be long before they work the bugs out. Personally, I prefer to do retail business (for most things) by website than by brick and mortar stores. I would have no problems ordering by tablet.

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    You act as if the customer wouldn't pay the wages regardless. If tips are banned, like you foolishly want, then the prices of all meals automatically go up by 15%, and IMHO, service will deteriorate. I'd rather have my choice as to the pay of my waiter.
     
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    His point is, do most waiters and waitress like the system as we have it now, or would they rather be paid a fixed wage? My guess is that most wait people like the current system. It gives them the capability to make more by doing a better job. A fixed wage would tend to dampen that.
     
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    But the tablet can't deliver the food to the table, get your refill, napkins silverware. It is limited to its role and it isn't much. I liked the pay feature only. I didn't have to wait for a server to come back. Personal pet peave.

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    Exactly, but 15% hike is very low, they'd have to boost the price by 30 to 50% to make enough to pay everyone. think about it, don't you think someone would have already figured that out?
     
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    I don't want 'bad' things to happen to my food when I eat out.

    I would not want to be KNOWN for being a bad customer in a place that prepares my food.

    I tip accordingly.
     
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    to you and that's fine, im not gonna argue with you over it

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    yes i know that, but the whole spokesperson thing. My views is my views.
     
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    They should pay min wage, not screw the waiter over by deducting the tip.

    And you are right, those owners are mean.
     
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    Tipping is all about having people grovel over you - total bourgeoisie toadying.

    Grovel and stoop - end the sham!
     
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    Why? See you don't understand how it works. the concept of it just blows your mind?

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    Question, are you a waiter or waitress?
     
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    your views are your views. But you are not the one affected by your views. Your own words which you seem to ignore:

    "I think this whole tipping thign should go away all together and waiters/waitresses and other employees who currently work for tips, actually get paid a reasonable salary upfront and eliminate the need for tips to earn a decent wage."

    My point was how do you know they don't make a decent wage? have you investigated the issue or are you just pushing an agenda that you wish to call your view? I think the results would baffle you.
     
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    yes because minus tips 2.13 or whatever they make is a decent wage?
     
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    Sure, I understand how the system works - it screws those at the bottom and has the customer subsidise the wage,

    No, I am not a waiter but did do a very temporary slot in that field in the past, so have seen the system from the inside.

    It's a farce.

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    No, it's a rip off.

    But it's great for the owners, so they keep on with the dogma and lies till the end.
     
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    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    That's what I'm saying! We're on the same page. Lol.
     
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    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    SO stop assuming and thanks for your contribution.
     
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    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    Also that means it's not a destination job but a get by job. I'm sure you would agree? Which qualifies as bottom of the barrel. Nice try though.
     
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