It's Official, the CDC has changed the definition of vaccination

I don't know if anyone that said that but I do know you've expressed some very extreme opinions.

That we do know.

 

I suspect it was changed because the word 'immunity' would probably be wrong for most vaccines.

 

Honestly, if Edward Jenner had found that getting cowpox meant you might not get smallpox, he'd probably have gone to prison for infecting that kid, and it would have stopped there.

I was vaccinated last year. I got COVID in June 2020 and again in December of last year. I had a cough and a headache in both cases, and if I hadn't been tested the first time for travel and the second time for surgery, I never would have known. Thing is, I've gone on living. I didn't do what your average democrat did and hide away hoping for a little bit of government money. I'm pretty sure I've been exposed to COVID plenty of times. The natural immunity I briefly had probably kept me safe.

If it wasn't such a political issue, we would say that the COVID vaccine is a failure, and the drug companies would be trying something new.

I've bee vaccinated for polio, measles, smallpox, and whatever else. I've never gotten any of them.

 

It's true that vaccines have never provided 100% immunity. But despite that fact, the public perception of a vaccine, right or wrong, is that it DOES provide immunity. While there are notable exceptions, such as the yearly flu shots that have been around for a while, for the most part it was true enough that getting vaccinated meant you were effectively immune.

With the attention that COVID-19 has received due to it's worldwide impact, and how during most of 2020 the world was told that "vaccines" were on the way, it's no surprise that when they arrived and did not prevent infection people were going to think they'd been hoodwinked. To some degree, there were false promises, predicated on that public perception of what a vaccine should do versus what they actually do. Before it became apparent that they would not, the worldwide hope and faith was that the COVID vaccines would make you immune.

It's beyond question that the COVID vaccines are beneficial and prevent more serious infections and complications. That's why vaccine critics focus with zeal on the semantics behind the word vaccine and how the COVID vaccines are not behaving the way we perceive vaccines are supposed to. To a certain extent, that's justified. Public perception does not operate based on scientific principles. And it can't just be written off as dumb people being dumb. That's not an effective way of dealing with this because essentially it's just academic elitism. Honest communication to the public about how the COVID vaccines actually work, what they do versus what they do not, is absolutely necessary. They should not be presented as something that's going to make you immune and prevent infection. They should not be mandated as if they did do that. They should be presented as a tool to help your body deal with the disease, which is what a vaccine does under it's scientific understanding, but NOT what a vaccine does as most of the public understands them.

Standing around calling the public stupid is not helpful. Better communication about the vaccines is required.

 

They could use a more intelligent definition such as: "A substance taken by injection that helps prevent infection from a virus.". Covid vaccines would fit that definition.

Vitamins prevent disease, even disease as a result of an infection, but they don't help prevent infection from the virus itself.
Was the CDC definition written by a high school dropout or Fauci? Ridiculous!

Definition of Disease: "disease, any harmful deviation from the normal structural or functional state of an organism, generally associated with certain signs and symptoms and differing in nature from physical injury."
https://www.britannica.com/science/disease

 

Vitamins are not vaccines. They do not provide the immune system with what is necessary to begin developing antibodies against an infection yet to be encountered. Vaccines do that.

 

It still does. The vaccines did provide immunity against the alpha form of the virus. Since then there have been new strains with resistance to the original vaccine. We haven't developed any vaccines for the new strains. The annual flu shots are a good example. They vaccinate against last year's strain of flu. They are hit and miss for that reason. Vaccines work extremely well with bacterial infections and viral infections that don't mutate so quickly. It is what it is and always has been.

 

It's wrong for ineffective vaccines...Covid and flu vaccine for instance.

The immunity definition still applies to the effective ones...like Small Pox, Polio, Rabies etc.

 

As Orwell noted, first corrupt the language, and what follows naturally is the corruption of thought processes. That has never been demonstrated more clearly than during the Scamdemic.

And still many Americans think it's a grand idea....

 

The point is that their new definition includes/describes vitamins, which indicates a problem with their definition.

 

No, everybody but you understands what a vaccine is. It is not vitamins.

 

~ We have been duped by our own governments, politicians and "news" media ...

 

This silly semantic argument is tedious. But I'm sure you'll repeat another 50 times in this thread.

 

It's justifiable to huge extent. The covid "vaccine" does not protect you (much) from becoming infected. We all know people who got the shot and then later got covid. Some more than once! FFS, that is not a vaccine by any definition.

 

and I am sure some would still not understand that the vaccine is not a condom, all it does is try to teach one's immune systems to fight off the virus if\when they do get it - after that, it's up to them and their own immune system

 

no vaccine prevents the virus from entering your body, the vaccine teachers your body to fight the virus when the virus does enter your system - nothing more

 

I understand it enough to make an accurate definition, unlike the CDC. These things matter in law and regulations.

 

That they needed to change it.

 

No they matter in effective communication. Inventing unrelated analysis of the meaning of words is not effective. Sorry.

 

The vaccine keeps it from setting up shop and making you sick. That's always been the common view of vaccines, they give us immunity to the effects of the disease. Now the professional politicians are trying to twist the BS they have been feeding us into something that fits their narrative and it isn't working. Effective vaccines win the fight before anyone knows you are sick. These vaccines are very limited and the official story, fluid as it is, is basically an attempt to comfort people while they deal with the virus. They may still be worth trying but they won't save us.

 

the vaccine leaves your body pretty quickly, it's up to your immune system after you got the vaccine, the vaccine does not fight the virus

all the vaccine does it try to train your immune system to attack when the virus enters the body

you're trying to blame a limitation of people's immune systems on the vaccine

 

I use the term vaccine speaking generally, I have never heard of a vaccine that performed like this one. Vaccines either transfer immunity or are so effective that we can't tell the difference. Our immune systems are pretty strong and once stimulated should give long lasting protection, not 6 months if that. We have turned the world upside down over a minimally effective treatment. I think we should get the shots and I have but just don't expect too much. It isn't body armor; it isn't even as good as initially thought to be. Turn them truckers loose.

 

all vaccines do is try to teach the immune system to attack the virus, the rest is up to your immune system, our immune systems to have limits and can be compromised, can blame your creator for that one

 

This one is a poor teacher.

 

nope, the body learns same as any other vaccine, just our immune systems have limitations and can be compromised, can blame your creator for that one

so far this vaccine has done well, even against the variants, wait unto one of the variants evades the teachings of the vaccine and is more contagious and more deadly - let's hope that doesn't happen