Jan 6 committee's 845 page report is now released

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  1. PARTIZAN1

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    Why do you so falsely claim that the select committee is “unconstitutional”.
    ? The committee did not act like a court nor a prosecutor it turned over it’s findings to the DOJ. If the DOJ believes there is sufficient evidence to of a crime the case goes forward.
     
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    NO, The Trump base is so corrupt that she was first “censured” for not telling the truth about what Trump did and for not going along with Trump’s lies about an election that was not stolen and was legitimate. Hell even Trump’s propaganda minister Shaun (Vannity) Hanity now admitted that he Shaun did not believe that. there was fraud. AG Barr also admitted it.
     
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    You can spin it anyway you wish, but the voters wanted nothing more to do with her because of her bs. What's wrong? Don't you respect the will of the voters?
     
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    No those two were neocons before Trump ever announced they have always been neocons. Hell what's her faces daddy was a neo con. That's not even in dispute. You might want to try a different tack because that one makes you look like ignoramus. Oh and if they were interested in the truth Nancy would never have picked them.
     
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  5. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    After Republicans filibustered the first committee in the Senate, forcing Pelosi to initiate a special committee, she had every right to reject McCarthy, Jordan and Banks all of whom had declared that the committee was illegitimate.
    The two that McCarthy selected that Pelosi accepted weren't 'likely to go along with the democrats' given that they were McCarthy's choices, but at least they weren't on record as declaring the committee as illegitimate. At the minimum, she has a right to reject those who do not believe in the committee's mission. But, no, McCarthy, instead of reselecting two more that might have accepted the committee's mission, he pulled out completely like a petulant child. When history called on McCarthy to show leadership, he acts like a petulant child.
    they are the testimonies of Republicans, they can say what they want. No one is stopping them from defending Trump.

    The hard core Trumpsters, what did they do? ALL OF THEM TOOK THE FIFTH AMENDMENT TO NOT SELF INCRIMINATE.

    WTF????

    As for 'cross examination', The Republicans in the senate and house had EVERY OPPORTUNITY to be a part of the committees, but they FILIBUSTERED IN THE SENATE AND BAILED IN THE HOUSE.

    Blame republicans for their EPIC FAILURE to contribute.
    Clearly you do not know what you are talking about since you have provided ZERO evidence.
    Mein Kampf? WTF? We're into Hitler now? WHere is Godwin when he is needed?

    Give me a ****ing break.

    If you choose not to read the report, with it's transcripts from Republicans, then choosing ignorance is your right.

    But, some say ignorance is bliss.

    I say ignorance is piss.

    Depends on who you are.
     
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    The will of the voters was to elect Joe Biden. I agree with the voters in this case since the GOP put up a what amounts to a criminal.
    The will of the voters in 2018 was to elect Cheney as their Congresswoman. That will I agree with. The voters rejected Cheney in the primary because she did not lie for Trump, did not try to cover up the fact that Trump lost the election fair and square. That will of the voters in the 2020 primary I do not agree with. Since Trump did not get re-elected I, you, and every American can agree or disagree on political issues.The will of the voters was to protect our rights at least for now unless Trump gets re-elected in 2024 then America as a free country will likely be doomed.
     
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    Excellent. Sadly Republicans pizzed away the chance to have a voice and to have an effect on the results of the committee. Republicans need to stay and rebuild the party of Lincoln and Regan by pushing out the MAGA.ITES.
     
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    So you disagree with me you resort to name calling. Before you call others here make sure it is not you who behaves as an ignoramus. Name calling here is against the rules. Those who are failures in presenting their case resort to name calling. Don’t be that guy!
     
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    §2383. Rebellion or insurrection
    Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both;
    and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States



    they can debate 'incite', that will be argued, it won't be easy, but if it isn't successful, then
    assists, that will be easier to prove, and then
    'giving comfort' will be easier yet.


    If the DOJ doesn't go with insurrection, they will probably go with sedition, which is easier to prove and has already been successful with the Oath Keepers.
     
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    Let an American lawyer and former law professor known for his work in U.S. constitutional law and American criminal law tell you how the report has no legal standing... it violates the separation of powers...

    Alan Dershowitz on Jan. 6 Committee's Trump criminal referral: This is unconstitutional

    It violates 3 provisions of the constitution...

    https://rumble.com/v21kvsw-alan-der...s-trump-criminal-referral-this-is-uncons.html

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    I have not believed Dershowitz since the late 1970’s. That guy is a lying dirtbag opportunist. So what if that’s his opinion he is wrong. He jumped the gun on other cases and claimed something just to get political points. Dirtbag Dershowitz.
     
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    Who you believe means nothing...Prove him wrong if you can..
     
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    Why don’t you proove him correct. You appear to just take his word. Dershowitz is tainted by his pro Trumpism. I have no faith in what pro Trumpites say.

    here this contradicts you and I agree that Dershowitz got it wrong
     
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    Sometimes it's just easier to smear the messenger thinking that by doing so you actually debunked the message. It's one of the oldest fallacious approach to debating in leftist's bag of tricks.
     
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    There is a part of the 1/6 report that documents Trump was made aware "a civilian" had been shot in the chest inside the Capital at approx. 2:40 PM, some 60 minutes before he made a statement to the public about the riot.
     
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    He is correct....it violates the separation of powers...the legislative branch doing the executive branches job.... Prohibiting Bills of Attainder, prohibition meant to prevent 'trial by legislature.'
    very limited power of the 14 amendment...

    Prove him wrong.... you are outside your expertise (Rules for Radicals…RULE 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people.”)... the committee is unconstitutional and illegit...
     
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    So why didn't you cite it?
     
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    I'm sure not everyone at DoJ is pleased with the public nature of the 1/6 committee's work. It gives potential defendants the DoJ's playbook, telling them what is known and providing the opportunity for other potential defendants to communicate in order to get their story's straight.
     
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    There is definitely something wrong with today's Republicans.

    The former Republican President led a coup against our government on Jan. 6, 2021, while President.

    The former Republican President lost reelection by seven million votes and stole classified documents on his way out the door.

    Many Republicans in key elections in November were election deniers, and most of them lost, costing the GOP a majority in the Senate and barely eking out a majority in the House, a virtual victory for the Democrats in the mid-term elections.

    Three days after a judge rejected Kari Lake’s election challenge in the Arizona race for governor, a judge in Maricopa County has ordered her to compensate her opponent, Katie Hobbs.

    GOP Rep.-elect George Santos is facing growing condemnation for fabricating sections of his resume – including his past work experience, education, and claiming he was Jewish. He is Catholic. Claims by Santos that his grandparents “survived the Holocaust” as Ukrainian Jewish refugees were also false.

    “I never claimed to be Jewish,” Santos told the New York Post on Monday. “I said I was Jew-ish.”

    It is unlikely House Republican leadership will do anything about Santos. That same Republican leadership blames Nancy Pelosi for the attack on our capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

    What do grassroots Republicans think about all this? No one knows. They never talk about their own party as this thread shows.

    As Americans, they can't even explain why they are Republican!
     
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    I don't suppose it bothers you that Biden is well-known for the lies he tells.

     
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    In chapter 5 of the 1/6 report it is noted that this lawsuit.........https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/01/louie-gohmert-lawsuit-pence-453387
    ..........brought by member of the Crazy, Louie Gohmert, was done so over John Eastman's objection. Perversely, the suit is based on the illegal theory Eastman pitched to Trump as a way to overturn the election. Showing conclusively that Eastman knew his theory, replacing legit slates of electors with fake ones, would not hold up to scrutiny in court. And it didn't. But that didn't stop Eastman and Trump from trying to convince Pence to use it to delay Biden's certification.
     
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    1,2,3......
     
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    I'm flattered. :)
     
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    Don't be.
     
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