Jane Fonda on If She Is ‘Proud of America Today’: ‘No!’

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  1. tom444

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    I think the local Iraqi forces, who did the fighting, would debate that.
     
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    What you and others like you fail to understand is that Miss Jane is NOT the problem.

    She did not start these wars under false pretenses like Johnson/Nixon and Bush did [fake stories about Gulf of Tonkin + WMD]. Nor did she kill or injure anyone. She demanded that all American troops be brought back home where they belonged. she did not demand one cent in order to finance these wars. Bottom line was that she tried to save American lives, not to exploit or kill the way politicians did.

    Therefore, if you are to hate anyone for their treason, you need to re-direct your hate towards those responsible for killing Americans while stealing their tax dollars and profiting because of these treasonous wars.
     
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    Oh! Is there a country without problems? Life must be awful for her in Beverly Hills. Why not dishonor those who gave their lives so that she can live in a country where one can become wealthy just for being pretty. Now that her beauty has faded, her exterior matches her ugly interior.

    My father in law is a Vietnam Vet. We may agree that we should not have been there in the first place, but she picked sides and provided aid and comfort to the enemy.
     
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    correction: it was Republicans who created ISIS
     
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    The enemy were Johnson and Nixon. Supporting them was treason.
     
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    I am horrified by what trumpers have done to this country. You will be lucky if this doesn't result in the end of the country.

    As far as I'm concerned, every trump supporter is my personal enemy. Does that make it clear enough? I think only evil and heartless people could vote for this creep no matter how bad Hillary might have been. You all made an enemy for life; and tens of millions of people feel just like I do.

    And I'm not a liberal. I know people who feel much stronger than I do about Trump and his supporters. You have started a nightmare.
     
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    No, ISIS didn't exist when Bush pushed Al Qaeda out of Iraq. ISIS was a splinter group from Al Qaeda in Syria *after* Bush pushed Al Qaeda out of Iraq. It was Obama that let ISIS become a large enough force to create the Caliphate, first in Syria and then in Iraq.
     
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    You mean the President that is finally following our Constitution on the ACA and Immigration?

    The Fascist Obama was the one that took the unConstitutional actions on both of these.
     
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    If it wasn't for the US military backbone in both of these areas, ISIS would *still* be in control of both cities!
     
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    I am a vietnam vet and was over there, being there woke me up to that criminal war
     
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    Johnson and NIxon didn't start Vietnam, Kennedy *did*.

    Jane provided aid and comfort to the enemy - the very definition of treason!

    And Bush took 700tons of yellow cake out of Iraq. The very stuff that Iran is now enriching. The very stuff Saddam could have enriched also. Like most Marxist Democrats you would rather have seen a nuke race in the ME between Iraq and Iran than to have Saddam taken out. Cutting your nose off to spite your face *is* a typical Marxist Democrat ploy.
     
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    Liberals only love America when they get what they want

    So Fonda may not hate America all the time
     
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    if it hadn't been for the anti-USA Republicans, ISIS would never have existed
     
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    correction - as I have proven several times before, Eisenhower started the war - google Richard B. Fitzgibbon Jr as I have told you right wingers to do numerous times before

    it was the IAEA that removed Saddam's WMD - none existed there prior to Bush's war of imperialistic terrorism
     
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    right wingers hate America all the time - see the chickenhawks list above
     
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    Again? What is with this statement you banish about like it is some kind of weapon.... Here you go and please stop being ignorant. Guno, you have no credibility.

    If you made heavy use of your passport in 2016, you’re not alone. According to recent stats from the National Travel and Tourism Office, the past year saw an increase of more than 8 percent in the number of American citizens jetting off to international destinations. In 2016, a total of 66,960,943 U.S. citizens traveled outside the country, compared to the 61,783,913 who did the previous year. And just where were they going?

    Mr Linky: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...abroad-2016/&usg=AOvVaw36TD_Uje0eCcmFWOKuZUFK
     
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    Stop living in the past. What wars has Trump or his administration gotten us into? Unlike Obama, Trump is pushing even Pakistan to cut down on terrorism. That's not being a chicken-hawk!

    BTW, the Navy told me when I graduated high school that it would be better if I went to college and got an engineering degree allowing me to be a Nuclear Power Officer. So I got my deferment and upon college graduation got my physical, signed papers for OCS with a posting as a Nuke Power Officer on a submarine. Then Nixon ended the war and the draft!

    And *I* supported the war.

    Not everyone with a deferment was avoiding the war. Your stereotyping is *exactly* what I would expect of a Marxist Democrat.
     
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    Much of that has to do with the strength of the dollar making it cheaper to visit overseas.
     
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    Obama created the vacume in iraq that got isis started
     
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    Nope. ISIS didn't exist till *after* Bush pushed Al Qaeda out of Iraq. ISIS then splintered from Al Qaeda while in Syria. It was OBAMA that then let ISIS grow into a force large enough to create a caliphate in Syria and Iraq!
     
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    And our SFs were there under Obama, and if I remember correctly, the right wanted to bring them home.
     
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    You might sell that lie to other lefties like yourself but not with me
     
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    Bush created Al Qaeda Iraq, and Al Qaeda Iraq created ISIS.
     
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    The IAEA would *NOT* have been able to remove that yellow cake if Bush had not deposed Saddam. That yellow cake had been in Iraq since the 70's. It wasn't until Iran proved it could be enriched with just centrifuges instead of a reactor that the yellow cake was recognized as a viable component of a nuclear program.

    BTW, I don't think Eisenhower *ever* sent troops to Vietnam. That was on Kennedy's head.
     

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