Jeremy Corbyn has said he is "looking at all the options".

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  1. ronv

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    And don't think he won't do it.
    He tries to do it with his own country.
     
  2. Canell

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    Wondering the same.
    He denies being a Muslim but may be he is just one of those leftist Islamic apologists who want Europe to go down the same path (i.e. drain) of the current EU.
    Looking forward to that one. :)
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well he hasn't told me yet. ;)
     
  4. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    This has nothing to do with an agenda Cerberus ... and now I'm even tired of the topic "Brexit" because it is a never ending story of total nonsense. You want to go? Then go ... go with God, Queen and Britannia, but go and then the annoying crying of the island finally stops.

    What bothers me about the topic and it still does today is the simple fact that the Brexit leaders have fired a firework of infamous lies and half-truths, which then, unfortunately, many Britons have believed to be the truth. Not one of their arguments is true in the end ... not a single one! But OK, you have hatred of the EU, you feel offended in your national pride, if Brussels prescribes something to you and every other member because it can only work for all, then be so.
    Then it annoys me, when I read such a total nonsense and wishful thinking like "then WTO right" enters ... without knowing what all this means for you in the end ... or even then comes the statement that it is the " Commonwealth will solve "because any British can not get over the end of the Empire until today and do not get it that the Commonwealt is insignificant in the matter.
    And then we have the current situation where you Britons can not even say in majority party what you actually want and how you want it ... and with a view to the 2 years ago you used to shout outrageous demands, knowingly, that there will only be a "No" from the EU .... and then at the end, as always, the EU is to blame for everything that you British and only you messes up, then I lack any understanding! ou have had so much extra rights in the EU like no one else, but that was not enough for you

    So go ... but please go now! You do not want the EU anymore, the EU does not want you anymore ... but woe you start crying after the 29th of March and blaming the EU for getting it all worse in the UK after. Then the blame lies only with you on the island alone and with nothing and nobody else!

    Interesting ... just because I oppose your hatred (and the hatred of others) and your ridiculous claims, unproven allegations, and lies against the religion of about a third of the population on this planet ... I can only be a Muslim myself! Tell me ... did you notice the license plate of the bus your head crashed into?
    First, I am a Catholic by birth, as is the proven 400-year family history with me ... even if I have been a staunch atheist for 20 years.
    Second, I am more liberal-conservative and follow and share the political and social philosophy of Prussia and their thinking ... what is not really lefty, eh?!
    But since for you, your views and your hatred and racism, all what is left of your is directly leveil efty ... just because more righty than you iare is farily possible ... I'm not surprised!
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "The EU has failed as an entity. It has undermined democracy, it has wrecked prosperity, and above all it is currently engaged in destroying the very cultures of its individual members"??

    Just wait until Italy and France collapse then you'll find out how wrong you've been.
     
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    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    Where and how did the EU destroy democracy Cerberus?
    All member states have agreed that the EU as a whole acts in various ways ... not in others. Thus, there is also the corresponding bureaucracy in the headquarters in Brussels and the appropriate institutions to make it work.
    The same is true for you Brits too ... because you call yourselves UK and consist of 4 parts as everyone knows, which is governed by a central office and their authorities and commissions.
    Find out who the EU institutions are, how they are composed, who "chooses" them and what powers they have. There is nothing undemocratic ... nothing!

    And if I have to worry every time that the EU breaks apart because allegedly someone collapses, then the EU would have to give it for 30 years no longer, because for 30 years, such statements are made as yours here ... with changing core members , Today you call France and Italy collapsing, some 20 years ago my country was called ... and who has collapsed to this day?

    But what is really funny ...
    I myself disagree with many things in the EU ... and really funny is one thing that happened on the weekend and at best was a "page 15 news" in the UK:

    Macron makes again reform proposals, which would make you just the toenails in shock and anger roll up (if you would not make Brexit) and Germany, there was a no, because the go Germany too far ...
     
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    So how embarrassed do you think the US feels with our clowns?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Er, because the president and commissioners are appointed, not elected? Government by any other means than election by the people doesn't seem very 'democratic' to me.
     
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    Cerberus, in all courtesy ... you realize that Commissions Commissioners are appointed by the democratically elected governments of EU Member States, and before they can take office they must also be ratified by the democratically elected EU Parliament?
    You are also aware that the task of the Commission is something like the Supreme Court, but as an executive it uses its bureaucracy to ensure the correct implementation of European legislation (directives, regulations, decisions), implements and manages the EU budget the approved funding programs.

    Question: In your elections in the UK, do you also choose directly, who becomes Minister in the Government? Or does that make you the elected party and its politician who has gained the majority?

    And you also electe the judges of the highest British court with a referendum, which watch over the observance of the constitution and laws?

    So ... what is now undemocratic again? That you wasn't able to give your vote about who is in EU Commission and head of them? Aks your governemt which was elected at you about whom they appointed to become member!
     

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