Jesus returns in 2017,,,,

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  1. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Was it frozen over, it quite often is.
     
  2. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How can you lead anyone away from someone who is omnipresent? He is everywhere is he not?
     
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  3. fifthofnovember

    fifthofnovember Well-Known Member

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    So I see you can produce nothing with which to back up this assertion. Imagine my surprise.
     
  4. jrr777

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    Sounds like a teenager after
    Actually I can, however your not going to see it. For you are without faith, thus God will allow you to stay blind on the matter, for it is what you choose, what's in your heart. Otherwise you can easily find these things and see the signs.

    Matthew 13:10-19 KJB
    10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

    11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

    12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

    13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

    14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

    15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

    16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

    17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.

    18 Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.

    19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.
     
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  5. fifthofnovember

    fifthofnovember Well-Known Member

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    You're. If you don't know how to use contractions, just say "you are". As to your claim here, present evidence, and we'll see. Until you do, you're just talking out of your ass.

    What a bunch of crap. First, Jesus' parables aren't all that difficult to understand, regardless of one's beliefs about Christianity. Second, this passage is irrelevant to your claim. That is, unless this is just you trying to walk back your claim about "in the flesh" "on Earth" Jesus by trying to act like it's a figurative "parable".
     
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  6. jrr777

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    To some extent they are easy, if one knows the word. And if they do, they are left without excuse.

    Tell me the meaning of these.
    “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field; 25 but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way. 26 But when the grain had sprouted and produced a crop, then the tares also appeared. 27 So the servants of the owner came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?’ 28 He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’ The servants said to him, ‘Do you want us then to go and gather them up?’ 29 But he said, ‘No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.”’”

    Behold, a sower went forth to sow;
    4 And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up:
    5 Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth:
    6 And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away.
    7 And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them:
    8 But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.
     
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    I'm not trying to walk back on any claim. If ever I am wrong I simply admit it, and apologize for it, if the apology is applicable. If you would be so kind as to remind what your referring to about Jesus in the flesh?
     
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    No, we went in the summer, in the winter it freezes over.
    To get there one needs to take a road from Trondheim, the last part of which is a tunnel that slopes downhill in places and runs for several kilometres. We made it there alright, but whilst there touristing through the little shopping centre and taking photos on the Railway Station, An accident blocked the tunnel. At first we thought we would be forced to stay there for an eternity, but kindly locals ("Hellians"? or "Demons"?), pointed out the old road at the crossroads which we took and then the fork back to Trondheim.

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    After what?
     
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  9. jrr777

    jrr777 Well-Known Member

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    For your, you are, I can simply use ur. it's the next gen type of language upon keyboards. Understanding the meaning is all that matters. Here at PF some people don't even use capitals, uh oh!
     
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    Me:"100 bucks says that doesn't happen"

     
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    Got ya, my bad man. I see the contradiction, for he is not yet here in the flesh. And I was indeed referring to Him speaking to His people right now. However again He is not here in the flesh. I'm laughing at myself now, indeed I missed one that was right under my nose. That's alright win some lose some, happens to everyone. I guess I owe you 100 bucks, is there a way I can get that to ya, without releasing any personal info?

    Or I do have a horse, if you want I will allow my horse to give you 100 bucks. He bucks pretty hard so brace yourself.
     
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  12. fifthofnovember

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    Ok, glad we cleared that up. I am surprised, however, that you conceded the bet. It was of course rhetorical, as the question of "Will Jesus return in the flesh?" can be infinitely deferred by Christians who will keep claiming that it will be "any day now" even if we waited yet another thousand years. Good on you for recognizing that, yeah, we gave him ample opportunity to show his face, and at some point you just have to accept the fact that he ain't showing. Congratulations on your moment of clarity.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes there is not much to see when you are there. jrr777 is just covering up where he has been unable to tell the truth. He cannot explain the contradiction between reaping what you sow and being punished to the fourth generations. It is what Christians do when they realise what bad memories and lack of continuity the men who wrote the bible had.
     
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    Down to 6 months now.
     
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    Jesus is coming....everybody look busy!

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    Old dead thread.
     
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    Why did you dig up this old dead thread ??
     
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    Swensson Devil's advocate

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    I mean, it is 2017.
     
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    It's too late. The Antichrist is already ensconced in the White House.
     
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    No sh!t.

    All of these wacko religionists predict when Jesus will return.

    This all started back in 1000 A.D.

    Then 2000 A.D.

    Etc.
     
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    Exactly what I was thinking too!

    If... .Rabbi Judah ben Samuel was correct about 2017 being a Jubilee year... then there
    are two possibilities for how to calculate the Jubilee because each Jubilee year is proclaimed on
    Yom Kippur, which is in September or October on the Gregorian calendar.

    If the Jubilee really began on Yom Kippur 2016, then it would be ending on the day before Yom Kippur
    2017. That would mean that something big should happen in the next four months.

    If the year of Jubilee year really begins on Yom Kippur 2017, then it would go to the day before Yom Kippur 2018
    and those big events that I would logically expect... might be delayed a few months.
     
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    Actually..... I am expecting a modern King Cyrus type who sets the stage for
    the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple.

    I am not..... expecting the fulfillment of Zechariah chapter 14, because I think that
    it cannot happen until after the Third Temple is built and sacrifices are being offered there.

    Isaiah 45:4,5 prove to me..... that the Cyrus type.... cannot be Messiah Yeshua - Jesus.
     
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    It's not dead. 2017 is here. It's alive and well, for another 6 months.
     
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    That is the point. For digging this up.
     
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    I am very much a believer in Christ. But I won't lie, I read this and had to laugh. Jesus knows I meant no harm, but it's funny.
     
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