Jewish Identity Administration named as fascist.

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  1. Bishadi

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    At least that post can enable anyone to realize, it aint a democracy (based on equality of its population).

    A method of recognizing this fact, is if the whole populous (which includes gaza, as it is israel's concentration camp), were allowed the one person, one vote, then the bigots of sissy-ville would be voted out of office.

    It is only by force and oppression, that the country of israel, even exists.

    It is why, I believe that it is almost miraculous, that the prophets claimed that 'jerusalem' will be 'returned to thickets' (nuked and never again to be populated)

    ps.... "never" is a big word but it fits beautifully to this situation


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  2. Bishadi

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    i said more than.

    can you find 14 vest wearing suicide bombers in 2012?

    No, because there were MORE IDF'ers, that committed suicide, in 2012, than the vest wearing suicide bombers.

    You cave in to even the simple truths.

    If you cant use your own mind to think with, perhaps you should be an IDF'er.
     
  3. moon

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    It's the plain truth that it is not. Some would like it to be, some would scorn international and humanitarian law to make it so, but it is not. 25% of Israeli citizens are not jewish. Israel cannot be a democracy and a fascist theocracy simultaneously. Israel is recognised as a ' homeland for jews '. Be content with that. Insisting upon the unobtainable will threaten Israel's legitimacy, such as it is. Note well- Truman crossed out ' jewish state ' and added ' state of Israel ' in its place;

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    There will never be a Christian United States of America either, if that's of any comfort to you.
     
  4. Dutch

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    Spare me an empty rhetorics, will yea? Here's just a few of 2012 headlines. What, not all of them wore suicide vests? I just don't see the point in combing all the muslim terrorist attacks during 2012. But if you axe me, I will, just to prove your idiotic claim more IDF soldiers killed themselves than there were muslim suicide vest attacks during the same year.

    Pathetic attempt at portraying IDF for anything other then they are - the best army in the world.

    Suicide Bomber on Foot Attacks Joint Patrol in Eastern Afghanistan...
    2 Boys With Suicide Vests Are Arrested in Afghanistan...
    Free Syrian Army suicide bombers accidentally detonate vest...
    Suicide blast hits near US base in Afghan capital...
    Kenyan police seize suicide vests, say thwart attacks...
    FBI Thwarts Suicide Vest Bombing Attack Against U.S. Capitol...
    Insurgents wearing suicide vests attacked a coalition base in Khost...
    Peshawar police defuse explosive vest of young suicide attacker...
    Taliban claims responsibility for suicide vest attack...
    2 Taliban suicide bombers kill 2 guards in Kabul...
    3 NATO troops killed in Afghan double suicide attack...
    3 dead, 90 wounded in Wardak suicide attack...
    Afghani woman wearing suicide vest blew herself...
     
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    http://www.jewishvoiceny.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4625:secretary-kerry-demography-doesnt-threaten-the-jewish-state&catid=113:eek:ped&Itemid=296

    According to the Secretary of State Kerry "Demography doesn't threaten the JEWISH STATE" ...Israel is a Jewish state.
     
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    No, it isn't. And five million Palestinian refugees want their country back. Already, 25% of Israel citizens are not jewish.

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  8. Dutch

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    A former friend of mine once lost a beautiful watch to me, in a bet. He still wants it back...
     
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    An opinions from both not worth the paper they're printed on.
     
  11. moon

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    Right, and Netanyahu looks forward to the day when it is. :mrgreen:
     
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    Which is why time is better spent observing printed paper of the kind moon posted above.
     
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    No need for me to rephrase anything as your link doesn't contradict my statement of fact. But carry on.
     
  15. moon

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    That's right, it doesn't. If the search engine here worked as expected I could find the thread concerning Biden's assertion that there could never be a ' jewish ' State because of Israel's squatting policies.
     
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    I've searched and searched to no avail. However, I distinctly recall his statement about three years ago.
     
  17. Talon

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    It really doesn't matter, trout. GaffeMaster JB's boss dictates foreign policy, and the Alinskyite in Chief recognizes Israel as a Jewish state.
     
  18. moon

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    So then, turf him out and sit someone who doesn't in the AIPAC nest.
     
  19. Talon

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    The vast majority of Americans aren't "anti-Zionist" wack jobs who base their votes on whether or not a politician thinks Israel is a Jewish state.

    Importance of Issues
    Economy, Health Care Continue to Lead List of Important Issues
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/importance_of_issues

    Most Important Problem
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/1675/most-important-problem.aspx

    Looks like your little pet issue didn't even make the list, toots. Derka, Allah! :omfg:
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    first hit was this

    -RAMALLAH, West Bank | Wed Mar 10, 2010 (Reuters) - Vice President Joe Biden publicly scolded Israel on Wednesday over a Jewish settlement plan, saying it was undermining peace efforts after Palestinians agreed to U.S.-mediated talks.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/03/10/us-usa-israel-biden-idUSTRE6271YE20100310


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    Nothing unusual there. That's pretty much been the official position for decades.
     
  22. moon

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    Good read;

    I guess that any such ' Jewish Identity Administration ' will work towards preventing young Israelis from fraternising with young arabs. Hafrada will feature heavily in its indoctrination programme.
     
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    There's nothing bigoted in being critical of the fascistic expansionist aspirations of a rogue state, and nothing nuanced in tacitly granting such a state ones seal of approval.
     
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    Israel is far far from a fascist state and you know that. You can use the term "fascist" to describe any number of programs/actions of any number of governments, but that does not in fact make those states fascist. So either its a disengenuous label, or its a bigoted partisan label.

    There is no question at all and no therefore nuance to the fact that the current Likud led coaltion is expansionist.

    Despite it being an diplomatically obsolete term, and apart from propaganda pionts what evidence can you put forth that would classify Israel as a rogue state?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_state
    Rogue state is a controversial term applied by some international theorists to states they consider threatening to the world's peace. This means meeting certain criteria, such as being ruled by authoritarian regimes that severely restrict human rights, sponsor terrorism, and seek to proliferate weapons of mass destruction.[4] The term is used most by the United States, though the US State Department officially quit using the term in 2000.[5] However, it has been applied by other countries as well.[6]

    Rogue states can also be differentiated from 'pariah states' such as Burma (Myanmar) and Zimbabwe who allegedly abuse the human rights of their populations while not being considered a tangible threat beyond their own borders, although the terms have been used interchangeably.

    A common presumption applied to rogue states is that they do not necessarily behave rationally or in their own best interests. In political theory it is generally believed that a stable nation, ruled by a leadership that is subject to broad scrutiny (though not necessarily democratic scrutiny), will tend to act in its own best interests and will not take actions that are directly contrary to its own interests, particularly not to its own survival. Rogue states, however, may not be subject to this assumption and, as such, relations with them may be more complicated and unpredictable.



    My support for Israel does not equate to approval of all of their actions. Perhaps you simply cannot recognize such obvious "blunt force" nuance.

    Despite your response, I still remain optimistic that the day will come.
     
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    Do you know the this JIA will do so, or is this just another anti-semitic remark - oh sorry, an anti-zionist remark?

    You really should keep up, it seems there is a movement amongst the legit anti-zionist movement NOT to replace the simpleton "apartheid" label with "hafrada". I think its because the seperation fence is all about security, not racism, and its efficacy cannot be questioned.
     

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