Jews and Palestinians are genetic brothers

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    fantasy racist nonesense.
     
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    Comparing /identifying names of coins + places with how people might have described themselves is imo daft.

    According to your "logic" as the currency is called Shekels - does that mean the people are Shekelites ?

    (Hahaha )


    Thanks for the link you've posted :

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    btw- regarding place names : Deutschland is called Germany in English , and Allemagne in French According to google translate - England is called 英国 (Ingwaar) in Chinese. etc.etc..

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    I didnt say "we" lost our identity, I said "we" are the only one left with the identity throu the ages, the punishment you seek happened to the 10 tribes and the tribe of Judea was scattered but never lost identity, in recent times its the Judea tribe decendants that were gathered back home.

    But never to the point there were no more Jews, its never been recorded the Jews have been erased as a ppl.

    What Esau got to do with exiled Jews ? Esau is a mythical figure and in any case died centuries before the first exile...

    I dont know what you are talking about that "Edomites became more powerful in Asia and Europe", what time period are you talking about + what source you use ?
    Assyria is 400 years before the Edomite conversion, the exiles returned to the land centuries before the conversion as well, its written in the Bible.

    Once again you jump centuries back and forth like its days, what exile are you talking about, better yet just quote the Bible on that ill take it from there.
    To migrate from your place of birth to a place you never been just to keep your faith is never an easy thing - let alone just because the king said you are Jewish, vast majurity of Khazars simply converted to Islam, that's not me saying - that's the opinion of ancient history researchers.

    In the time of the Khazars there are still many records of Jewish comunities btw so there were not extinct in any case.
     
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    The time period from the Exile to Assyria until this very day. It is believed that those who follow judaism are Edomite converts.
     
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    Now you mix the kingdom of Israel and the kingdom of Judea, the kingdom of Israel was destroyed by the Assyrians and exiled - not Judea, Jerusalem stood even when Sennacherib came to sieze it. like you said it doesnt matter what ppl belive in - only whats written in the Bible right ?

    That fact is also documented by Sennacherib himself however.
     
  6. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no one with any scientific or historical knowledge believes this.

    its a silly racist/fantasy belief.
     
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    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    "in certain circles" ;)
     
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    oh ok. I didnt realize that judah was never led into captivity. hmm
     
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    J0NAH Banned

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    you mean europeans dont believe it. Of course they dont.
     
  10. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you're saying only Europeans believe in science and history?

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    The Jewish people returned to Israel centuries before Christ.
     
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    No, you just think the world begins and ends with european quackademics.

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    The only forced conversions in Jewish history of Palestine was the conversion of the Edomites.

    The desire to control Edom, for commercial reasons, led to frequent Judean aggression against Edom as well as to occasional savage repression. Thus David’s commander in chief spent 6 months in Edom, after defeating the Edomite army, killing every male he could catch. The Judean king Amazia had 10,000 Edomite prisoners of war thrown off a cliff. In the late seventh century BCE both Edom and Judah became vassals of Babylonia. When Judah rebelled, Edom and other vassals were called in to help suppress the uprising. This is mentioned in the Arad Ostraca and recalled with great bitterness in Ps. 137–

    Remember, O LORD, against the Edomites the day of Jerusalem, how they said, "Rase it, rase it! Down to its foundations!"

    O daughter of Babylon, you devastator! Happy shall he be who requites you with what you have done to us!

    Happy shall he be who takes your little ones and dashes them against the rock!”

    The subsequent mass exile of Judeans to Babylon left southern Judah depopulated just when large numbers of Arabs were infiltrating into Edom displacing the native Edomites who moved into what had been southern Judah. Thus from the sixth century BCE on Hebron, the former capital of the tribe of Judah, Arad, Beer Sheba and the rest of Judah south of Beth Zur were Edomite or, as they are conventionally called from this time, Idumean.

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    Thus the late second century Jewish population of Judaea was mostly Idumean by origin.

    http://www.adath-shalom.ca/arab_ed_jews.htm
     
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    The Second Temple Period

    Between 323 B.C.E. and 70 C.E. (the year the Second Temple was destroyed), many individuals converted to Judaism. The vast majority of these proselytes made the decision to become Jewish on their own. Judaism's belief in one God was particularly appealing, as was the tenor of the Hebrew liturgy. Still other proselytes fell in love with Jewish partners and wished to be of the same faith.

    We lack direct evidence of how Jews of the Second Temple era received their new co-religionists, but the high number of proselytes in this period suggests a welcoming attitude. The opposite was the case for the small number of Gentiles who were forcibly converted to Judaism (a measure that has traditionally been rejected in Judaism). The first example of forced conversion known to us was the High Priest John Hyrcanus's conversion of the Edomites in 125 B.C.E.

    During his reign, Hyrcanus conquered the Samaritans and the Edomites, and gave them the option of converting to Judaism or being exiled from Judea.

    http://www.myjewishlearning.com/bel...Jews/Attitudes_Toward_Non-Jews/Converts.shtml
     

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