Joe Biden Asks Congress for $ Billions More to Fund His Catch-and-Release Network[

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  1. doombug

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    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...ess-billions-more-fund-catch-release-network/

    So Biden’s border crisis is really just a scam he created in order to increase the flow of cheap illegal labor for the wealthy. The last time the wealthy wanted cheap labor they just used slave ships. Now democrats are just using taxpayer dollars to import cheap labor.

    Biden and the democrats have wrecked the economy. Now they want to flood the country with illegal aliens. Biden's ideas never work for the PEOPLE.


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    neither Trump or Biden has fixed the border issues

    the only way to fix it is to go after those offering them the jobs.... as that is why they come here
     
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    Trump did a hell of a lot better job than Biden has....probably shouldn't have brought him up this time considering that fact. But we get it. Your hatred of Trump compels you to.

    And going after employers is not as easy as simply saying it on a forum. You have to prove that they KNOWINGLY hired illegals. And that's actually just as hard to measure as your obsession with Trump is.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump was the worst President I have seen in my lifetime, he did nothing to fix this

    and really, only Congress can

    you make every employer verify every employee through a government system... easy peasy

    make then submit, name, ssn, age, address, salary and a picture

    if they pass, then they are protected

    would also find people working under the table
     
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    They have a system, its called E-Verify. But it is voluntary (with exceptions to government contractors, those are mandatory) due to Right to Privacy (the excuse given when they first implemented it). In addition it is not a fool proof system. Anyone with a stolen SSN would pass it. And last I heard around 2/3rds of working adult illegals use either stolen SSN's or fake ones.

    Furthermore the IRS already knows where many illegals are working as they give out an ITIN number to anyone that asks for one. The ITIN number was specifically thought up to give to illegals so that the government gets their money. Think Congress is going to threaten that cash cow?

    Could Congress fix this? Yes they can. Though they would have to get past the hurdle of privacy rights. And I for one am not sure how they can do that. Do you? They would also have to get past Democrats who do everything that they can to allow illegal immigration without outright passing a law of open borders.

    Also a President doesn't have all that much say in what Congress passes. The most any President can do to get a law passed is either suggest, threaten to Veto, and appeal to voters to press their reps to do something. What they can do however is determine how the laws that are currently on the books are enforced. And Trump did that far more than Biden. At least Trump tried to get something done. Biden isn't even doing that. Instead he's enacting policies that are encouraging MORE illegal immigration.
     
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    hopefully the address, age, picture would help the system

    better than nothing and without it passing, the employer is liable
     
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    Fix? Biden has no intention of fixing it.
     
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    Biden is encouraging illegals to come.
     
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    No Trump screwed the pooch with the southern border, let alone Bannon's corruption to boot.

    https://news.yahoo.com/official-trump-impenetrable-border-wall-100328595.html
    One report last year found some smugglers were building effective ladders with about $5 worth of material. In another famous case from 2020, a stiff wind knocked over a segment.
     
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    You mean like Gov Abbott helping the illegals by busing them elsewhere. BTW, it would be funny if they migrated back to TX.
     
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    nor did Trump, he just wanted a great wall of Trump
     
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    Republicans told them they could come, told everyone how easy it was to come.... so they came
     
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    It fills districts with bodies. It also provides tax money for campaign contributors.
     
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    Here's how democrats think:

    If one of them got a severe gash on their leg which caused incredible bleeding, they'd rather spend billions on towels to clean up the blood rather than close the wound.

    Biden and democrats have invited illegals into this county, this cannot be denied and even the presidents of Mexico and Guatemala have said so. The result is 2,000,000 illegal aliens.
     
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    Ok, I've said this before and here it goes again. Anything protected by a wall will eventually be defeated if the wall isn't supported. If there were no prison guards the inmates will eventually find a way to breach the prison walls.

    Do you recall when Trump proposed a wall the left argued that technology would work better? I do. So where is that technology and why isn't it stopping the millions of illegals invading our country?
     
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    Gov Abbott is not allowed to deport them. Only the feds have that power. So, he's doing the next best thing. Sending them to Sanctuary Cities.
     
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    Lol…Nonsense. Simply put the responsibility for vetting employees squarely on the business owners and people who hire illegal domestic help.
    It’s their duty to confirm that who they hire isn’t an illegal immigrant and if they fail to do so, lock them up.
    The problem is that without illegal immigrant workers, our economy would crash.
     
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    Baloney. The myth of illegals keeping the economy from crashing is old and debunked.
     
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    So he is committing a crime by his own standards. The poetic justice is when they go back to TX.
     
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    So wasting money on something that doesn't work is better. !!
     
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    No, its not their duty. Indeed it is the governments explicit duty to make sure illegals are barred from coming by securing our borders. Every other country gets this, and does it. Why can't our government? Indeed most first world countries do not have an illegal immigration problem to the extent that we do. By far. The UK for instance only has around 120k illegals.

    Businesses shouldn't even have to be dealing with it in the first place.

    As for crashing the economy...Bullcrap. While the GDP would decrease by about $1.6 trillion in a 10 year period if 11 million illegals suddenly got deported the economy itself would not crash. $1.6 trillion over a 10 year period is not actually that much.
     
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    Just keep ignoring reality if you wish. Trump did better against illegals than Biden has. This is not something that is disputable.
     
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    I'm ignoring reality, yet you are the one saying a completely failed project is better.
     
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    You really do love the false hyperbole don't ya?

    And in case you didn't notice, Abbot is not forcing any of those illegals onto busses. Which means they are leaving Texas voluntarily to go to those sanctuary cities. ....hmm...wonder why they want to go to sanctuary cities....could it possibly be because they know they will be safer from deportation in those cities? Hmm... .... YES.
     
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