Judge: A Shirt that says "there are only two genders" is NOT protected speech

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Well not exactly, you are perfectly free to agree with them, however have the temerity to disagree with them and they will come unhinged.
     
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    Au contraire, Liberals hate right wing nutballs who pretend to wrap themselves in.the flag so they can spout their racist , bigoted , supremacist garbage while hiding behind the guise of patriotism. Sludge of the first order.
     
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    Or how leftist allow teenage boys to brazenly walk into the locker rooms of teenage girls and then claim the obvious bulge in their pants is because they are lesbians.
    To announce that one is crazy and then expect everyone else to kowtow to your particular brand of crazy is indeed an act of hostility.
     
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    Fake News. It is a scientific fact that Democrats have many times had control of both Houses of Congress and the Presidency, and didn't pass a national abortion standard, so, don't come whining to me if you don't like what the State Legislatures are doing.
    More fake news. There is a rationale for every standard. You or I may not agree with it, but, it exists.
     
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    Except none of that happened here. But thanks for the demonstration of the usual leftist response when they have no coherent factual argument.
     
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    Torture-induced hallucinations don't count.
     
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    I mean in terms of their desire to shut down free speech they do not approve of -- this entire topic is one example.
    "It's OK for the state to discriminate against this kid because...."
     
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    How does "there are only two genders" express hostility? By your own logic, the ruling fails.
     
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    If that's the case, then the pride displays have to go.
     
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    Florida's "don't say gay" laws are right wing bigotry of the first order. But thanks for the demonstration of the usual rightist response of making false statements when when their own actions serve as facts against them.
     
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    Does anyone really believe that this child wore that shirt for any reason other than to try and marginalize classmates?
    Also, it is genetically false. There are XX chromosome women, XY men and XXY men with many female physical attributes.
     
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    I feel sorry for the kid, growing up with hateful parents that would not only teach him hate but encourage it. Hopefully he gets past them.
     
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    Why he wore it does not matter - he has a right to express the opinion. There's no "freedom from offense" exception in the 1st amendment
    He's doesn't even need to believe what the shirt says to have his right to wear it protected by the constitution.
    It's an expression of opinion -- it does not need to be factually true for it to be protected by the constitution.
     
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    It is clearly a challenging of this base level part of the way, some define themselves.
     
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    Irrelevant, even if true; the constitution protects "hostile" speech as evidenced by the fact the state cannot, based on content, constitutionally discriminate against the KKK when issuing parade or assembly permits.
     
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    i am sorry, but that is not a practical solution. All clothing has a message. A shirt that has Addidas has a message or a shirt that has Izod, Polo, or some other logo. Maybe all political messages should be banned, but that would mean US Flag, State Flag, Pride Flag, a shirt that says "there are two censured genders," etc.
     
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    But a school, certainly can deem clothing advocating KKK beliefs, as inappropriate.
     
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    You must be referring to #40 of course:
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    40. Cisgender
    Gender 40 in the list is Cisgender and is described as; Being closely related to the gender assigned at birth during the entire life.
     
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    You cannot cite/copy/paste USSC jurisprudence to that effect.
    And even if you can, you cannot demonstrate how said ruling applies to the shirt, and the discrimination, in question.

    Good of you, though, to give up on the "hostile speech" nonsense.
     
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    Is that what that nonsense means? Huh.
     
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    What "liberal supporting T-shirt" would be different?

    All I am doing is stating that the injunction was not approved. This would have given an edge up on the plaintiff in a jury trial, which he requested BTW. And since the judge And since the claim has not been proven or disproven in the lawsuit that he filed, that is why the judge ruled the way they did. However, the plaintiff has every right to appeal the decision, and I stated that in my first response to this thread. So, let the judicial system work the process is all I am saying.
     
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    Why does is a Judicial process needed in regards to a shirt that states a biological fact?
     
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    Well, yelling fire in a crowded room is not free speech, but if Trump said it in a crowded room and caused panic, conservatives would say that is free speech and Trump was merely joking when he said it lol.
     

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