Judge in Manafort case says Mueller's aim is to hurt Trump

How?? Because we've got a fancy nickname?? You've seen what's going to be presented tomorrow?? We've seen nothing (but it's likely we will 2 hours after Nunes gets out of there)...

Just a reminder to remember EXACTLY what the 5 burglars in Watergate were actually doing when caught....

You'll say "well, at least that was candidate on candidate action vs the FBI getting involved"... Hey, if the FBI actually had implanted a spy in the Trump campaign for political spying (if true - they did a really shitty job), I'm all for somebody's head...

 

Thanks for proving my point, the democrat industrial media complex is an issue.

 

Completely incorrect good grief, he point blank called the MS13 gang members animals and your lapdog media lied to you and everyone else Hey I love it the democratic party looks like complete dumbasses arguing that they should be respected as humans lol. Have fun with that.

 

Essentially yes... that tweet should fit all Americans... but there's enough ambiguity here for me to give him a pass on this one episode... I still believe Dick Durbin and Sh*tholes though...

However, I'd start specifying MS13 OUTLOUD when referring to immigrants as animals... generalities don't cut it anymore... I don't think he can do it, though....

 

Keeping in mind that one of the stories that we've been told is: that the whole Russia/Trump campaign investigation was triggered by Papadopoulos talking to an Australian diplomat, here's what I put together [Note: It's all single sourced. The sources are widely accepted as reputable, but the pieces sre not confirmed. Fox News/Neil Cavuto, The Hill)]:

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-to-hurt-trump.532034/page-70#post-1069106836

 

Well, as I understand it, your timeline of Halper/Papa is off... feel free to correct me if I'm wrong... Problem with the news is we don't get enough exact dates or good timelines. This URL has a pretty good DB of articles and dates

https://investigaterussia.org/timelines/everything-we-know-about-russia-and-president-trump

1. Papa gets Drunk -
During a night of heavy drinking at an upscale London bar in May 2016, George Papadopoulos, a young foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, made a startling revelation to Australia’s top diplomat in Britain: Russia had political dirt on Hillary Clinton.

2. I think July is the accepted month the Russia investigation formally began...

3. Halper contacts Papa
F.B.I. agents were seeking more details about what Mr. Papadopoulos knew about the hacked Democratic emails, and one month after their Russia investigation began, Mr. Papadopoulos received a curious message. The academic inquired about his interest in writing a research paper on a disputed gas field in the eastern Mediterranean Sea, a subject of Mr. Papadopoulos’s expertise.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/us/politics/trump-fbi-informant-russia-investigation.html

 

Do you realize that tweet was written by Trump and he specifically says that negative news about him is fake? Or is it your assertion that the only "unmake" news is news that is positive about Trump?

 

He specifically says that 91% of the news about him is negative.

The only possible explanation for such an astronomical number is that the reporting is tailored to portray him in a negative light.

 

I believe 91% of the news about Trump is negative. I've seen the data. Are you saying the reporting is false?

 

Upton Sinclair once said that it is hard to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on him not understanding it.

Lots of adults can figure it out. However, it's hard to get them to understand something that goes directly against their partisanship.

I'm sure there is probably someone out there that can't tell Sarah Palin from Tina Fey, but that's not the majority, and they're not sitting in the White House. When the President of the United States comments on something, he's not speaking for himself. He represents every American, even those that didn't vote for him. That's an awesome responsibility. Childishly calling every criticism of his actions "fake news" is unbecoming of the office, and unacceptable by many of us that expect more decorum than we're getting from Trump.

As you say, tell a lie long and often enough, and too many people will believe it. Trump is counting on that, because that is the strategy for "spy gate" and his attacks on both the media and the Mueller investigation. It's also a Russian active measure.

 

Why is it impossible for the explanation to be that he took office without the knowledge base necessary for the job, has little to no attention span or desire to take in new information that isn't about him, has made off the cuff statements that contradict other statements he's made, or his party's position, or has made mistakes?

I watched the words come out of Trump's mouth to say, "We should take the guns first and give them due process afterwards." How, in a country based on the rule of law, do you not put due process first, in any case? It's a Constitutional right, for Pete's sake. Trump is not well informed. He's made mistakes. Reporting on the things he's done is negative, because he's done stupid things. Why demand that his press secretary lie about the number of people at his inauguration? Why did Homeland Security Secretary, yesterday, say she didn't know the intelligence communities had determined Russia was trying to help Trump win? Because her job would be on the line. He abuses his power to make people lie…. but the only reason news reports are negative is because they want to hurt him? Please!

 

I've said before that Trump does enough wrong, that the Fake News doesn't need to make stuff up about him. They do it anyway.

 

The press doesn't have to make anything up. They simply report on what he does- tweet, golf, vacation, and bash others. If he doesn't like his coverage, maybe "John Barron" or "John Miller" should call in and give him some good coverage. That's how he used to handle it.

Trump has bankrupted multiple times. He pretends he's some kind of deal maker, when it is obvious he is anything but. If he would quit Tweeting, and stop with the conspiracy theories and palace intrigue, he'd get less negative press, but he seems to crave the attention, one way or the other.

 

Scumgate!


FBI Source: Special Agent at Mike Flynn Interrogation is Ready to Testify — Says “It Was All Comey”

The dirty scummy corrupt FBI retaliated against Flynn, a 33 year Vet of our Nation's uniform who served under enemy fire, was retaliated against by the Scumbags at FBIHQ because he intervened on behalf of a decorated counterterrorism agent who accused now-Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe and other top officials of sexual discrimination.

Flynn’s intervention on behalf of Supervisory Special Agent Robyn Gritz was highly unusual, and included a letter in 2014 on his official Pentagon stationary, a public interview in 2015 supporting Gritz’s case and an offer to testify on her behalf. His offer put him as a hostile witness in a case against Lying Andy McCabe, who was soaring through the bureau’s leadership ranks.

The Corrupt FBI sought to block Flynn’s support for the agent, asking a federal administrative law judge in May 2014 to keep Flynn and others from becoming a witness in her Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) case. Two years later, the Corrupt Vindictive FBI opened its inquiry of Flynn.

https://www.circa.com/story/2017/06...ainst-michael-flynn-by-launching-russia-probe

 

That's an example of a post where a NON-RIGHTWING PF member is demanding that the media be censored? Seriously? Ha....

 

Sorry, I thought Obama would carry more weight than some random poster.

 

I'll let you off your own hook then. Hopefully, you got the point.

 

Sedition: Former Attorney General Eric Holder Urges DOJ Employees to Defy Trump Administration

Reminds me of when Ronaldus Maximius (The Great One!) fired the Air Traffic Controllers.

Go AHEAD DOJ Deep Staters, MAKE OUR DAY!

 

Those against him have called him "literally hitler" and you claim others are childish.. Quite amusing!

 

I'm no Trump fan, but I have never called him Hitler. I don't call anyone Hitler or use Godwin's Law. Ever. I didn't call "others" childish. I said it was childish of Trump to claim any negative news story was "fake news." "Wasntme" and "dontknow" did lots of things around my house, when the kids were little. Maybe you don't have children?

Interestingly, you made such a broad sweeping implication about me, without evidence, and didn't address one point that I made. When you can't refute the message, attack the messenger? Does that ever work? Nope.

 

This is actually far far far worse than burglary.

The FBI’s ridiculously named “Crossfire Hurricane” seems to have been a counterintelligence investigation that sought Russian-related dirt on the Trump campaign. If any other dirt turned up, that would work too.

The Obama administration blatantly politicized the government’s intelligence and law-enforcement apparatus.



In the courtroom, the prosecutors are referred to as “the government,” but they swell with pride at any opportunity to tell you they actually represent “the People of the United States of America.” The defense can have its vaunted presumption of innocence; the unstated presumption in a criminal trial is that the prosecutor is the guy in the white hat. He’s the earnest public servant, just trying to show what really happened — he’s not there to sow doubt, to trick you like those sharks over at the defense table. And if, by reputation and manner, he manages to convince the judge and the jury of his probity and competence, the prosecutor gets to set the narrative.

The ability to set the narrative is the biggest advantage in any public controversy. As progressivism has magnified the administrative state, the self-image of federal bureaucrats has become technocratic altruism: Let us explain what’s going on; after all, we’re just selflessly looking out for you, calling agenda-free balls and strikes. Think of Barack Obama, dyed-in-the-wool leftist, insisting he’s just a pragmatic, non-ideological problem-solver.

Our modern form of government does make technocrats a force to be reckoned with, and they abide supervision and oversight only by other progressives. When a constitutionalist has the temerity to observe that technocrats are subordinate to executive political leadership and must answer to the legislature that created and funds their agencies, they brood about their “independence.” In their minds, they are an unaccountable fourth branch of government — at least until their fellow non-ideological pragmatists return to power.

For this species of arrogance, setting the narrative is a jealously guarded prerogative. We are to understand the bureaucracy’s work as unimpeachably noble and that so, therefore, are its tactics. Consequently, the government’s “cooperator” is never to be called a spy. He’s a “confidential informant” or, as the FBI’s former Director James Comey put it in a tweet this week, a “confidential human source.”

These are not neutral terms. The implication is that these operatives are always benign, even vital. A “source” is that most treasured of intelligence assets, to be protected at all costs — even the need for accountability when power is abused must give way to the confidentiality of intelligence “methods and sources.” “Source” connotes a well-placed asset who has bored into the inner sanctum of jihadists or gangsters — an “informant” whose information saves lives.

But there is another side of the story.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018...cized-intelligence-law-enforcement-apparatus/

 

Mueller is part of the cover up:


REVEALED: Dossier Author Christopher Steele Visited State Department Shortly Before 2016 Election to Brief Officials

 

So now that the judge has ruled in favor of mueller are you suddenly supportive of his prosecution?

 

Power to throw our the case!
Monumental!
Lol another fart in the wind

 

Manafort still facing charges and Flynn still guilty!