Judge Orders Release of DoJ Memo Justifying Not Prosecuting Trump

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  1. Egoboy

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    Well, that's makes it a full party, since TFG was the one who nominated Barr....

    Wonder why he would help cover up the D's spying on his campaign??

    None too bright...
     
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    Because Senate Republicans like that power, too. At least some of them do. I wish they'd not redacted the names of the private contractors busted illegally searching the NSA database. The only reason not to was to protect the guilty.
     
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    She has no standing to bring a charge, and her role as a judge doesn't grant her that privilege. She's an activist abusing her role as a judge. She should be disbarred.
     
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    No. It is relevant to the crumbling of our Justice system into a third world "Just-Us" score settling arm of party politics, best left in the crumbling regimes like Venezuela and New York.
    You can not ignore Hunter Biden and keep a straight faces unless you are a lunatic.
     
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    Perhaps you should read her biography before you question her qualifications.
     
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    It is you who can't ignore Hunter Biden.

    That is evident.
     
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    The two "recent memos" by the OLC, as far as I know, were written during the Watergate era, by a Nixon DoJ and during the Clinton impeachment period, by a Clinton DoJ. Both of those memos upheld the theory that a sitting president can't be indicted. However, there was a third opinion, written by a constitutional law professor from the University of Illinois, at the request of Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr, which concluded the opposite. Starr was replaced before the conclusion of the investigation by Robert Ray, who found there was insufficient evidence for prosecution, thus the Illinois professor's opinon was never used. In Nixon's case, DC federal judge John Sirica did order Nixon to turn over the "tapes," noting that no one is above the law, while presiding over the trial of the Watergate burglars, and the Supreme Court upheld Sirica's decision. Nixon did hand over the tapes, but resigned before being prosecuted and/or impeached himself. I think that may be as close as the Supreme Court has come to ruling on the "non-indictment" theory.

    I doubt DoJ policy decisions, based on OLC memos constitutes a "legal precedence," since they are more procedural than legal decisions. It's possible, in this case, the OLC opinion would have reversed the two prior OLC memos, or not found the Trump obstruction of justice charges comparable to the Nixon and Clinton circumstances. I don't know and it seems we'll need to wait for the memo's release or an appeal to prevent its release.
     
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    Lawyers seem to usually take all the time the Judge allows them...she gave them two weeks. Her decision was just released yesterday, so Garland may not take the full two weeks, but I wouldn't be surprised either way.
     
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    Anytime one of their conspiracy theories doesn’t go how they thought, it just proves an even bigger conspiracy.
     
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    She's not bringing ANY charge. Her decision to order the release of the un-redacted OLC memo is in conjunction with her presiding over a Freedom of Information case brought before her Court. As the presiding judge in that case, she was given an un-redacted copy of the memo. Apparently, as a result of that reading, she's concluded that she was either misled or lied to in a prior case...ergo her order to release the un-redacted version, which is essentially a ruling for the plaintiff in the Freedom of Information Act case.
     
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    Hunter is the latest dem to be falsely accused by republicans, and then used to justify republican crimes. Just ask Hillary.
     
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    I'm guessing her qualifications didn't cover knowing the duties and limitations of the three branches of government?
     
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    He helped his dad sell influence when his dad was a hair-sniffing Vice President. His dad is now the President*. Hunter's still relevant.

    * cheated the election
     
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    And trumps DOJ had 4 years to find a crime. Oh that’s right, they’re in on the conspiracy lol
     
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    You just hate when trumps crimes can no longer be hidden.
     
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    It wasn't his DOJ. It was the Senate's. If you disagree with this, you don't know how DC works.
     
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    What crimes?
     
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    Multiple counts of obstruction
     
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    False. You cannot obstruct an illegal investigation.

    What else ya got?
     
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    Only a lunatic would suggest wrongdoing on the part of Hunter Biden without evidence, which is something that World-Third Donnie and his supporters are not concerned about. If a strong criminal case existed against Hunter Biden, a political hack like Bill Barr wouldn't have hesitated to bring charges.
     
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    Lol so now mueller was illegal too? Man this conspiracy goes deep
    You guys just make it up as you go I think
     
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    The Mueller Report confirmed the opposite of the nonsense of Comrade Donnie's big lies of no collusion or obstruction.
     
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    Mueller just regurgitated Hillary's campaign's talking points.
     
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    On the contrary...she's the presiding judge over a law suit, under the Freedom of Information Act, in which the plaintiff is asking that the OLC memo be released un-redacted. Not an expert, but my guess is that in such cases the issue is does the government's right to secrecy outweigh the public interest in knowing what the un-redacted memo says? To make that determination, the judge (or a jury if one is involved) must have access to the un-redacted material. She read it and determined the plaintiff was right and ordered the release of the un-redacted memo.

    Are you calling for the repeal of the Freedom of Information Act?
     
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    Nah, in fact, Mueller found no Clooshun with Muh Rusha. Simple fact.

    This is the liberal equivalent of "Q".
     

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