Judge rules Fani Willis can stay on Trump's Georgia election case

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  1. flyboy56

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    The Judges ruling has set up the perfect case for an appeal. The fact that both lied in court taints the entire case. This is not a win for the Trump haters. Fani did not provide enough evidence to convict anyone which is why the judge throughout 6 charges. I'm pretty sure Fani did not do a thorough job on the other remaining charges especially if her lover provided solid evidence. The dude had to think for a long 30 seconds to remember he never rented a cabin with Fani within the last year and a half. That was most likely a lie.
     
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    McAfee was elected in a mostly black district. The optics of a white man firing the first black female AG would be a career ending for him. The AG and her lover both lied on the stand. Yes politics played a role in his decision.
     
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    Fani Willis is to blame. Willis should be charged with hate crimes. She ran on taking Trump down.
     
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    Huh?
    Lolwut? :roflol:
    Obviously, that statement indicates an egregious confusion and misunderstanding.

    FACTS
    1) Willis was elected Fulton County Prosecutor in November of 2020.
    2) The Earliest Dates of the Events currently under judicial scrutiny (involving Donald Trump):
    DID NOT EVEN HAPPEN Until December 2020.

    So? Based on those indisputable FACTS:
    How EXACTLY Did Willis Run "On Taking Trump Down"?
    (In November of 2020, when the events of Dec. 2020/Jan. 2021 HADN'T Even Happened Yet?)

     
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  5. Arkanis

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    The MAGA say that every time Trump loses a trial or a motion.

    Trump has just lost three civil cases in the last 6 months... for a total of $500+ million in damages.

    Do you really think he'll overturn them on appeal?

    No.

    It will be the same for the criminal.

    The teams of prosecutors pursuing Trump are among the best in the country.

    Precisely because the justice system doesn't want a former POTUS to be prosecuted for nothing.

    The guy's toast.
     
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    All I asked was if you think Fani Willis has been demonstrated a competent and reliable officer of the court. Did you forget that part, or are you trying to avoid that part?
     
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    Fani Willis isn't on trial. A bunch of people who attempted to overthrow the results of the Georgia election are on trial.
     
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    In case you havn't noticed, the justice system itself is also on trial in the court of public opinion. And public opinion is, increasingly, that Trump (and anti-establishment conservatives in general) is being railroaded in kangaroo courts full of politically biased judges, corrupt prosecutors and stacked juries, and the establishment is allowing it because of how much a threat Trump and etc. pose to the entrenched federal bureaucracy.

    The real question is- what percent of a society can totally lose faith in their institutions before the whole society falls apart? Cuz it seems we're on track to find out.

    In that context... do you think Fani Willis has been demonstrated a competent and reliable officer of the court? By keeping her on the case, the court is asserting that, yes, she is. And judging by the shear amount of people who seem extremely hesitant to voice agreement, the bias must be pretty evident but people don't wanna risk saying the quiet part out loud.
     
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    Yeah, the race hustling perjurer who threatened her boyfriend's wife with prosecution is the victim here...

    If she were smart she would recuse herself immediately.
     
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    Yes, the appearance of a conflict is grounds for dismissal to protect the due process rights of the accused. The judge dismissed Wade for that reason. Ironically, he kept the person who created the conflict because he didn't have the courage to dismiss her.

    The penalty could still exist in the form of state and Bar oversight. They've been trying to pass legislative oversight reform and panels to oversee of corrupt prosecutors and their behavior, but they have been losing legal challenges. They just modified a law that the state Supreme Court struck down by removing the SC approval requirement. So new legal challenges against it will likely occur again. Additionally, the state Senate has a Committee investigating her. They already had one very informative hearing that outlined a ton of Fani corruption outside of the scope of these evidentiary hearings.

    Long and of short of it is that she will continue to be under investigation. Her perjury could still come back to bite her in the phanny. The judge has effectively supported investigations into them, but he didn't want to be the one to unilaterally disqualify her. But all of these investigations could come back to hamstring this prosecution. If she recuses herself now her team can claim no future harm can occur and up until this point the judge didn't force her to resign so they should continue.
     
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    Something else worth mentioning is that after Fani and Wade obviously perjured themselves and misled the prosecution team, their lead prosecutor went absent. Anna Cross apparently didn't like being made to look like a fool by unknowingly spreading their lies on their behalf. She was contracted and the brains behind this operation. That is why Abbate had to finish up the evidentiary hearings and he was absolutely horrific. If he's leading the prosecution without Cross and without the history Fani has, this case is effectively lost. He seems to be a horrible attorney and was never expected to be in this limelight of a position. If Anna Cross doesn't come back there's no way Fani would recuse herself. Her ego makes it extremely unlikely unless there's a strong outpouring of support for her to do so. MSNBC/Morning Joe have already had guests on saying Fani needs to voluntarily step down from this case immediately. When she's lost MSNBC and Morning Joe... there's not much going for her.
     
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  12. Arkanis

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    The presiding judge decided otherwise

    And Trump will sooner or later have to sit his fat a** in that Georgia courtroom to answer RICO-related charges.

    You'll have to be strong because it's going to be a very tough year for your beloved Trump.
     
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    The presiding judge called for investigations into her corruption. What do you think happens to this case if those investigations don't go her way? The judge kept the investigation to the parameters of the case and what they could prove on short notice. And the only people investigating it (defense attorneys) did not have the power to issue subpoenas like they will be subjected to from new investigations. What do you think happens if the legislature starts sending subpoenas to everyone involved and who might know something and can further impeach Fani, Wade, and Bradley's testimony? Or if Fani is held in contempt of Congress for failing to respond to subpoenas? Or if Fani keeps illegally withholding records from open records requests?

    Silly charges that have little chance of going anywhere at this point. The over/under is higher that Fani is more likely to get convicted or sanctioned than Trump at this point. We’ll see how things play out, but the solicitation to violate an oath is gone. The phone call was illegally recorded and could be fruit from the poisonous tree. There’s not much on Trump at this point. Some idiots broke into some voting machines, they might get hit, but that’s not going to sustain a RICO conviction.
     
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  14. Arkanis

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    What investigation?

    Sure....
     
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    "Silly charges" - Having tape of a defendant committing a crime is a prosecuting attorney's dream case. And to top it off, they have the confessions of co-conspirators in the plot to steal electoral votes. Open and shut case, if it ever goes to trial.
     
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    That is diabolically opposed to what the judge found. He said there is an 'abundance' of evidence described in support of the 'thrown out charges.' What he found is that those charges have not been particularised adequately on Law, and he invited the AG to make the correction which he knows can be readily made.

    Mate, please don't try snow jobs especially if I am around. I actually read the judgements not the right wing or the left wing headlines.
     
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    Oh my!
     
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    You are correct.
     
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    Which statute was violated and specifically how was it violated?
     
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    BS, Trump has gotten with far more than anyone else. !!!
     
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    do you think Fani Willis has been demonstrated a competent and reliable officer of the court?
     
  22. Arkanis

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    Just because Trump accuses Willis of something doesn't make it true.

    There were hearings, testimony, lawyers for Trump and his co-defendants were able to question prosecutors and the judge made a decision.

    You wish it had been otherwise, we get it.

    Trump has lost 3 civil suits in the last 6 months and has been ordered to pay $550 million in restitution.

    He's a criminal and he's not done paying for what he's done to the American people.
     
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    LOL you are really set on not answering the question.

    I'm here for one thing- to get people on record as to whether they agree with the court that Fani Willis is a competent, reliable officer of the court, or whether they agree that the court is allowing an unreliable and/or incompetent officer of the court to prosecute Trump.

    I'm going to keep asking the question until you answer it.

    do you think Fani Willis has been demonstrated a competent and reliable officer of the court?

    If you answer the question, I'll address the rest of your points.

    Every time you reply but dont answer the question, it further supports the understanding that you acknowledge she's biased and corrupt, but don't want to admit that this is a probelm, because your hatred of Trump is more valuable to you than a reliable court system.
     
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    It does not matter what a lay person thinks, or even someone like me who is less lay, so to speak, thinks.

    What matters is what McAfee has determined as to what will happen in his Court Room. If HE felt that Willis "had (NOT) demonstrated a competent and reliable officer of the court" he would have said so, and of all the people on this Planet, he, having viewed her and all the Witnesses, was in the best position, best placed, to make that determination.
     
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    It definitely matters what judges think. Suppose a judge made a ruling on the basis that the holocaust never happened. Do you think they would remain a judge for very long? Obviously that's an extreme example, meant only to demonstrate conceptually that judges have a perception to uphold. You already said you think Fani Willis is a competent and reliable officer of the court. Fine. Judging by the lack of willingness for anyone but you to say so, it seems a lot of people are fine with allowing who they do not percieve as a reliable and competent officer of the court to continue prosecuting Trump. I guess they don't care they might be prosecuted similarly if they merely fall into a future failing of fortune.
     
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