JUST IN: Northern California County Defies Governor Newsom, Reopens Churches, Hair Salons, Schools a

JUST IN: Northern California County Defies Governor Newsom, Reopens Churches, Hair Salons, Schools and Restaurants

Oh now that is going to leave a stinging political mark. When a wannabe leftist dictator of a governor gets defied by a country and its officials, what happens next? What will Newsome do in the face of this latest defiance? Earlier today California's Orange County's Sheriff told Newsome to 'get stuffed!' after he ordered a totaly draconian lockdown of all beaches. This is now getting interesting, yes?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ens-churches-hair-salons-schools-restaurants/

 

Lot's more coming down the pike.

 

Yes. San Joaquin county has opened up their golf courses and I just wrote up some material for our HOA manager to open up Solano County. Riverside County has opened golf, tennis, pickle ball, and bocce. Newsom is quickly becoming “persona non grata”.

 

What a dangerous game. A battle of wills, for the sake of egos and power. There is no planet in the universe on which golf courses, beaches, hair salons, and restaurants could be considered essential.

PS: You're aware that if people had been more willing to do the right thing (by the local community AND the nation), no 'draconian' measures would have been needed. Blame the people, not Govt.

 

It doesn't make sense for Newsom to look at LA and think that the same thing could happen in Modoc. People in Modoc probably haven't come in contact with any Chinese, Italian or even Los Angelean.

 

Let them. Whoever gets sick should be able to successfully sue the county.

 

I wonder what will happen when the cases go up again. Will the local government shut things down again, or will they just justify the deaths for "But the Economy!".

 

Learn to distinguish actual science from politically motivated BULLSHIT peddled by bureaucrats. You don't live in the U.S. I'll wager the GDP of my single state, one of 50 in a very large, diverse land mass, dwarfs your entire country's, so please spare all of the peanut-gallery fear-mongering of U.S. policy, especially in states PROVEN NOW to be relatively unaffected by this virus. I don't come to your country and tell you how to water the coconut tree.

 

Unless of course that's how you pay your bills, I bet those who are broke and out of work, think it was pretty damn essential.

 

There is absolutely no correlation between lockdown and reducing Corona virus infections. The only reason Australia has such low numbers is because of travel bans on Chinese travelers.

BTW the WHO is now endorsing the Swedish model.

 

Lockdowns are not sustainable and all they do is postpone infections into the future. The WHO is now endorsing the Swedish model. Both models flatten the curve. The advantage of the Swedish model is lowered infections in the future whilst post lockdown infections will have a greater extension of infections with time. Both models flatten the curve but the Swedish model results in herd immunity sooner.

 

I think the answer is somewhere in the middle.

It's a huge situation with not much time to act. Even I am willing to give them some slack as a result.

I think there needs to be a more robust process for suspending the usual constitutional order. Perhaps there could be a joint sitting of all 3 branches.

Some of the measures implemented have no conceivable impact on management of the virus. It seems like we had "better be safe than sorry", but when you cross the line you turn hearts and minds against you.

Police in Australia are driving into parks telling people sitting alone with masks to move on, from their vehicles. This makes people say "stuff it" and indignantly ignore the restrictions out of spite.

The government needs the goodwill of the people if its measures are to be successful and we are to avoid the breakdown of society. The government can't do anything without the cooperation of its people.

 

All the best to you. It's clear that many in America are determined not to know or understand, and you'll wear the results - for good or ill. Everyone hopes it doesn't go badly for you, believe me. No one wants America to fail.

PS: Australia has suppressed an early onslaught of infections via citizen compliance above 80%. That's the only way it can be done, once it gets into the community. And it DID get into the community here, big time. A cruise ship full of infected people turned loose to every corner of the nation, plus many infected people coming in on flights from every corner of the world .. China, Europe, Iran, the US, and the UK.

PSS: I know three people who had/have it, the most recent via community transmission despite the fact she's in a low risk area and wore mask and gloves for her once a week 15 minute trip to the supermarket. The contagion level of this thing is beyond imagining. Far too many people can't or won't understand that, and failing to grasp it makes every one of those people dangerous. To themselves, and to their communities.

 

Exactly. Hence America's situation. No point blaming their Govt.

 

Sweden is doing it the right way. You are claiming that lockdown is responsible for the low numbers when it was the Chinese travel ban. What is the herd immunity in Australia ???

 

Newsom has lost credibility. His beach closing was reduced into retaliation against Orange County where the Sheriff has refused to enforce his ban. County after county is ignoring his orders. His ban on protests will be tested tomorrow. He is in deep political trouble.

 

On the contrary, many of our cases came from somewhere other than China. And yes, high citizen compliance plus mandatory lock downs is the reason we've been able to suppress community transmission. Do you still not understand how this virus gets around? It doesn't get around via email. It gets around by moving from host to host. In this particular virus, only the most brief proximity between hosts is needed. You could walk past someone who isn't coughing or sneezing, and become infected. Their BREATH can do it. Someone talking within 2 metres of you can infect you. You could be 5 feet away from someone who is talking, for 30 seconds, and become infected. When you have a pathogen with such a profound ability to move, only social isolation can slow it down.

Herd immunity will come with a vaccine. Just as in so many other unkillable contagions.

 

And those who are dead don't get any say, being dead and all, right?

 

Nor does it apparently matter that if infection is allowed to run through communities, health systems are going to be horribly compromised for ALL sick and injured people, not just the many new cases of COVID which will result from opening too soon.

 

Probably a quicker death than starving, homeless on the street because your "betters" have decreed your job is "non essential". I'm sure those so effected by the decrees of would be dictators, can take solace in that.

 

Where did they come from ??? If it’s true that you have very little herd immunity Australia is a sitting duck. You must transition to the Swedish model soon. The Aussie economy cannot be shutdown waiting for a vaccine.

Sweden is up to ~ 30% herd immunity and is projected to be at ~ 50% in two weeks.

 

Sums it up well...

 

Would be a lot easier to care about people's jobs and mortgages and car payments and netflix subscriptions if more of our citizens would wear masks and practice social distancing. They want me to care about them but the the mass refusal to engaging in mitigation strategies shows they don't care about me. So given that reality, that selfish ignorant truth of our American culture, the best option is to keep things shut down because in the end lives > money.

 

Also this....

 

The "mask" most wear, are a scrap of cloth. First we were told, we did not need them. Now they are "effective"?