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  1. Bishadi

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    irrelevant
     
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    Lying again I see, thats what....three in a row?
     
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    you be a trip
     
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    Palestine was peaceful before the Zionazi's came.

    Prove it.

    Really?

    "Indeed, those who have believed [in Prophet Muhammad] and those [before Him] who were Jews or Sabeans or Christians - those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness - no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve." [5:69]

    The only hateful parasite seems to be you.

    lol how do you go to that conclusion?

    You do know the second highest population of Jews in the Middle East do live in Iran, correct?

    The Holocaust happened, but it didn't only happen to Jews. Where is the homelands for the Gypsies and handicapped people who were also targetted by Nazi's?

    The Holocaust was to make Germany purely Aryan (like the Zionists want to make "Israel" purely Jewish) and Jews aren't the only people not considered Aryan. There was even Jewish Nazis.
     
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    elijah New Member

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    did you read the stats about the jewish population in Iran?
     
  6. Bishadi

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    what stats?


    Did you read how many muslims, christians and jews are in the zionazi concentration camp called gaza?

    I just shoved down your throat, that there are more christians in Iran than in Israel. Did that bother you?


    This thread is about israel and all you are doing is sharing how ignorant you are.

    Why is that?
     
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    No country where Sharia law is the law of the land is free. Islam is a plague. People are destroyed for refusing to convert to Islam. Its the plague of the 21st century.
     
  8. OJLeb

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    yeah, seems I did.

    Did you read the post you quoted? Specifically the last part.
     
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    Mayerling Well-Known Member

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    I have always been surprised how many arab jews (most of whom are now Israel citizens) have told me that until the state of Israel was created they lived in peace and security in their original arab countries.

    I have no idea if this is the opinion of most Arab Jews who were old enough to remember life in arab countries prior to the creation of Israel or not, I only know that many have expressed that sentiment.
     
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    This is because it's true.

    The Middle East, Muslim countries was were Jews thrived in peace and freedom while being persecuted everywhere else. They were successful in the Middle East. Same with Christians.

    There was none of this hatred we see today before the Khazars and Ashkenazi's started ethnically cleansing Palestine. The Zionist regime as "Israel" is so commonly called by some Middle Easterners, ruined this relationship.
     
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    What a great post!!!!!
     
  12. Bishadi

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    Thanks for the addition to the thread.


    :winner:
     
  13. krew09

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    Through out recorded history the Jews are the only ones who ,time and time and time again are kicked out of every province,region, and country they have ever settled in in any numbers.For reasons of usury,undermining society,treachery,and all their deceitful scams and schemes This includes every country in Europe numerous times. The only reason a few sprinkles of Jews exist in Iran and other pockets of the mid-East is because Muslims arent stupid enough to let them start their usury (money lending schemes on them). If America doesnt wake up we are done....who is after the first amendment???The ADL ..Jews....the 2nd amendment?? Every piece of gun legislation going back to the 60's is a Jew rat piece of legislation....Who is poisoning the minds of our youth through all the vile ,depraved filth that comes from Hollywood??....Jews full out control all media,if you dont know that yet you are WAY BEHIND THE CURB.


    WASHINGTON, GEORGE, in Maxims of George Washington by A. A. Appleton& Co.

    "They (the Jews) work more effectively against us, than the enemy's armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties and the great cause we are engaged in... It is much to be lamented that each state, long ago, has not hunted them down as pest to society and the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America."




    FACTS..............

    *Jews were the communist movement,and the most barbaric brutal,murderous political movement ever observed...they murdered Christians in the 10's of millions...and all the top commissars were Jews..

    "except for Lenin, all the key figures were JEWS"....WINSTON CHURCHILL
    Lenin (ULYANOV) wasnt a full JEW,nevertheless he still spoke Yiddish,and was just as barbaric as the rest of em.

    In fact all the iron curtain communistic regimes where the atrocities were happening were under Jew control

    CARDINAL MINDSZENTY, of Hungary quoted in B'nai B'rith Messenger, January 28, 1949

    "The troblemakers in Hungary are the Jews... they demoralize our country and they are the leaders of the revolutionary gang that is torturing Hungary."




    *Jews were the ones who owned the slave ships and did the majority of the slave trade in America and the Southern Seas..responsible for millions of black murders.

    Seymour B. Liebman
    "They came with ships carrying African blacks to be sold as slaves. The traffic in slaves was a royal monopoly, and the Jews were often appointed as agents for the Crown in their sale....[They] were the largest ship chandlers in the entire Caribbean region, where the shipping business was mainly a Jewish enterprise....The ships were not only owned by Jews, but were manned by Jewish crews and sailed under the command of Jewish captains."

    New World Jewry 1493-1825: Requiem for the Forgotten (KTAV, New York, 1982), pp. 170, 183. [Liebman is an attorney; LL.B., St. Lawrence University, 1929; M.A. (Latin American history), Mexico City College, 1963; Florida chapter American Jewish Historical Society, 1956-58; Friends of Hebrew University, 1958-59; American Historical Society Contributor to scholarly journals on Jewish history.



    *Jews are not Semitic..JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA 1901-1905 editions ....a survey of 3,000 Jews by Jews revealed they are Asiatic...it is a scam,just like the chosen people scam





    the holocaust is a myth.....the Jews have been crying about 6 million dying in a holocaust years before the war ever started


    1919
    " From across the sea 6,000,000 men and women are calling to us for help....6,000,000 men and women are dying ...in the threatened HOLOCAUST of human life....6,000,000 famished men and women..." 1919 Oct 31st 1919 THE AMERICAN HEBREW "The Crucifixion of the Jews must stop" p.582...Governor of N.Y. Martin H. Glynn

    1900
    Leading Jewish figure in America Stephen Wise"There are 6 million living,bleeding, suffering arguments in favor of Zionism"............NEW YORK TIMES June 11th,1900 Rabbi Wise's Address p.7

    1915
    Louis Marshall "In the world today there about 13,000,000 Jews,of whom more than 6,000,000 are in the heart of the war zone; Jews who's lives are at stake,and who today are subjected to every manner of suffering and sorrow." NEW YORK TIMES Jan 14th 1915 p.3 ...."Jews indifference to war aide rebuked"

    1919......... Felix Warburg ..."Jews suffered worst from war...poverty ,starvation disease of 6,000,000 souls

    1936 March 5th.... Chaim Weizman President World Zionist Orginization testified in front of an appeals commission..."It is no exaggeration to say that 6,000,000 are sentenced to be imprisoned in this part of the world."
     
  14. junobet

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    I'm afraid the only fact your post shows is that old-school antisemitism has not quite died out yet. I don't really blame my Nazi grandpa for having fallen for the Stürmer-propaganda, he was just a child of the prejudiced and bigotted society he grew up in. But anybody under the age of 80 years must have something seriously wrong with their head if they still fall for it.

    Indeed.
    A lot of modern anti-semitism is due to the fact that people can't separate between the Jewish people as such and the deplorable crimes and wrongdoings of the Israeli government. Luckily a lot of people are capable of criticizing human rights violations and violations of international law without caring about the religion and nationality of the perpetrators.
     
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    Even if you do try and seperate it, Zionists try and convince everybody insulting "Israel" is insulting Judaism and therefore anti-Semetic.

    The problem with the word "anti-Semetism" is Jews aren't exclusive Semites. Arabs are also Semites. Arabic, like Hebrew, is a Semetic language. Genetically Middle Eastern Jews and Arabs are related.

    Khazars, Ashkenazi are Judaism converts from Europe. They never were Semites, they never will be.

    Palestinians are more Semetic than Zionists, and it's ironic how it's the Zionists who claim they are anti-Semites.

    Zionism isn't Judasim, as many Rabbi's themselves will tell you, and there are some people who use anti-Zionism to turn it into something against Jews. That I don't support. It's scum like this that feed the Zionists "ammo" to play the "anti-Semetic" card.
     
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    Technically I may agree with your definition of semitism. But to keep things simple I use the term anti-semitism in its commonly understood historical form: those who suffered from it were those who unlike my German grandparents couldn't provide proof of their 'Aryan' (another joke term really that holds no real meaning) ancestry but had some Jews in their family-line.

    It is true that Israeli politicians and lobbyists have tried to depict anybody who dared to criticize unjust Israeli politics as 'anti-smites' - a low tactic that exploits the victims of the holocaust for these people's own political agenda and that by now has probably done more to taint the victims' memories than any old-school Nazi could have done.

    Unfortunately this forum for example is full of people who - often without intending so - feed to that tactic by their inability to differentiate between Israeli state politics/the less savoury forms of Zionism and Jews and Judaism as such.

    Personally I could not care less about a person's race or creed. Human rights are universal and it's certainly time the Israeli government and fanatic right-wing ultra nationalist Israelis stopped treading on the Palestinians' human rights.
     
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    If Palestine continues to circumnavigate protocol for statehood i.e. (appeal to the UN first before negotiations are finished, and in some cases even before they begin) the prospects for peace in the middle east are dim in the extreme. That would be bad enough, but the worst part is that if there is war between any of the Arabs and Israel and the temple mound* is harmed or defiled, it’s likely to go nuclear and if that happens it’s likely to go medieval WW3 in a heart beat.

    Not only Islam has an Armageddon prophesy so does Christianity. The difference is that Christianity predicts that Israel will be attacked, and who attacks her, describing what sounds like nuclear war. There are many Christian scripture that describe something like nuclear war, written over 2000 years ago. Lets pray that Palestine goes by the rules, the entire earth is at grave risk of death.

    *(the real first Christian name of the dome of the rock is the temple mound. The Arabs renamed it the dome of the rock after they built the dome)

    Rev A
     
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    in a sense, i agree

    whereas christians spread the plague to the north american indian with the blanket

    how is that?

    You are still here!
     
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    During my three visits to the Holy Lands before the 1967 war, there were NO soldiers in Jerusalem and even then the Dome of the Rock was open to the public.
     
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    i could believe that.

    My neighbors told me, there is so much crime in the city, that each and everyone had to be very careful.
     
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    This is such BS.
    You roam Jerusalem free.
    I always carry my backpack and no probelem what so ever.
    But when I went to Barcelona this summer, all the turist guides said there is huge crime.
    In two days there I witnessed two footed police persutes. In one, the group that was fleeing jumped one by one over my 4 years old son (in Goel park).
    So maybe Spain needs to return to the good old Muslim days, it was much more peacefull then...
     
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    call him a liar
    OK
    youu must scare the children
    OK
    if more hands were cut off, perhaps less stealing?

    If more stoning, less liars!!!!!!!

    I more honesty, no mo religion!
     

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