Justice Dept.: 'Reckless' to release Nunes memo without review

Yes ... you lie, revise the chairmans written opinion to protect your own interests That's exactly what McCabe, Strzok, and Page did, and what Nunes intends to make public.

 

Yes, they can. Twitter is now in the process of alerting Americans that either followed, responded to, or liked Russian bot posts. They've already discovered and suspended 14,000 accounts linked to Russian bots and are now blocking 250,000 logins from automated accounts. They also are aware there are still more out there.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...the-problem-continues/?utm_term=.79726d17b91c

Also, if you bothered to read the link from my post, they carefully explain just exactly how they have identified Russian bots and what they are pushing. Hamilton68 is tracking what items the bots are pushing, and the Russian bots have been pushing #releasethememo. They push all kinds of divisive things. That is their purpose. The Russians don't care about Republicans/ Democrats, conservatives/ liberals, or anything else. Their purpose is to divide us against each other and use any side against any other.

Now, that being said, if you have a link that says Twitter can't identify which accounts are Russian bots and that they are pushing, feel free to post the link. I'd like to see it.

 

I don't know. I don't think you can say that all Democrats have a consistent view on this, any more than Republicans do.
And if you are implying that I am a Democrat ... you're wrong.

 

I love seeing either parties memo's and emails, I really want to see Trump jr's personal email

 

Did Twitter make the claim or did someone outside of Twitter make the claim? Nuff said.

 

I think they spoke with loud volumes when they were willing to elect Hillary to the Presidency.

 

Is he a Republican official or something?

 

Thanks for proving my point. Not all Democrats voted for Hillary; not all Republicans voted for Trump.

 

Nunes goes Trump on the deep state

House Intelligence Committee chairman Devin Nunes had a pretty rocky year as he tried to hold the intelligence agencies accountable.

Intelligence chairmen seldom do that. We are in a war against terrorists. The bureaucracy can easily portray any critic as unpatriotic.

But Nunes has this crazy notion that patriotism is more than saluting the government and its Civil Service-protected staff.



In March, he went to President Trump with proof that the deep state had indeed wiretapped the president.

Barack Obama used the power of the state like a Stalinist to spy on a political opponent.

Nunes has assembled a case against the deep state.

He outlined in a four-page memo.

Then he began marketing the memo last week.

His strategy is positively Trumpian.

From Byron York on Thursday:
One of the most vexing problems of the Trump dossier probe has been that much of the evidence involved is classified and thus hidden from public view. House and Senate investigators are tightly constrained from revealing key aspects of the dossier affair. There is, for example, the question of whether the FBI and Justice Department used the unverified allegations in the dossier as evidence to win a secret court warrant to spy on Americans. Members and staff in both House and Senate know the answer. But it is classified, and they can't talk.Now, the House Intelligence Committee has taken a first step toward what might become public disclosure of key facts in the dossier investigation. It is a halfway step, and will not immediately reveal anything to the public, but it is a beginning.

At the committee's meeting Thursday morning, Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., offered a motion to allow all House members to review a brief report prepared by the Republican majority summarizing the panel's investigation into what GOP members call "FISA abuse." (That is a reference to the secret court set up by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.) The motion passed the committee on a party-line vote.Thus began a campaign among conservatives (the real ones who support Trump, not the fake ones on TV) to Release The Memo.

Holding on to the memo does a few things. Keeping a memo on government spies secret gives it a potency and veracity had by no other memo written by a committee chairman.

The Democratic/Stalinists response appeared in Mother Jones:
Adam Schifftless of California, the top Democrat on the Intelligence Committee, last week called the memo “a profoundly misleading set of talking points drafted by Republican staff attacking the FBI and its handling of the investigation.”“This may help carry White House water,” he added, “but it is a deep disservice to our law enforcement professionals.” Funny how Democrats suddenly back law enforcement.

Well, to be fair, the law enforcement people Democrats support are the ones who were doing Obama's dirty work.

From Salon:
Trump vs. the Deep State: This death match of American political power will forever change history

The firing of Gen. Michael Flynn has popularized the concept of the “Deep State” across the political spectrum.Breitbart’s Joel Pollak attacks the disloyal “Deep State #Resistance” to President Trump, while "conservative" pundit Bill Kristol defends it. Kristol tweeted Tuesday. “I prefer the deep state to the Trump state.”

Glenn Greenwald is more even-handed: “Trump presidency is dangerous,” the Intercept columnist tweeted Wednesday. “CIA/Deep State abuse of spy powers to subvert elected Govt is dangerous.”

And the conflict is deepening. The New York Times reported Thursday that Trump wants to bring in Wall Street billionaire Stephen Feinberg “to lead a broad review of American intelligence agencies.” The idea is reportedly provoking “fierce resistance” from intelligence officials who fear it “could curtail their independence and reduce the flow of information that contradicts the president’s worldview.” The deep state tried to bring Nunes down. After initial success, it failed.

This is a reminder that for all its tools and its nearly unlimited budget, the deep state is run by incompetents.

Robert Mueller is a god to these people.

But as FBI director he went after the wrong man in the post-9/11 anthrax murder case -- for seven years. Mueller hounded the man so severely that taxpayers had to pay the man $5.8 million to settle the harassment lawsuit.

The culprit turned out to be in the next office over. Once targeted, he committed suicide.

But despite their incompetence they are still powerful. They still control most of the press -- and all of their agencies. They are little Kim Jong Uns.

Nunes is up against the most powerful (if inept) force of mankind on Earth.

But he also knows Trump has his back. He could not do this under a President Bush or Romney or even Cruz.

And yes, the deep state went after them too. Does the name Valerie Plame jar anyone's memory?

The battle is epic and inevitable, when you give people like Mueller so much power without being answerable to the people through an elected official.

http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2018/01/nunes-goes-trump-on-deep-state.html#more

 

He's making a great show of hiding this memo.

 

What prattle!

Devin Nunes is no patriot.

He is not playing the Frank Church role (look it up).

Nunes is clearly not interested in protecting the people. He is interested in protecting Donald Trump.

He has all sorts of time and interest in promoting any story that attacks the credibility of the growing body of evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians, but none at all into whether the evidence is true or not.

"In March, he went to President Trump with proof that the deep state had indeed wiretapped the president."

This is 100% false.

Devin Nunes was given these dubious documents BY THE WHITE HOUSE, with the specific understanding that he would turn right around and run to the White House to tell them all about it and blow up the news cycle and get attention by doing it. He didn't tell the ranking member or anyone other than a few Republicans on the committee about it.

The ruse fell apart in days. But apparantly the fake narrative is still being promoted in the right wing echo chamber.

 

You mean by releasing it to the full house and working to release it to the public?

 

So is Schiff ... who's written a "counter-memo" of his own. Another premature letter of exoneration drafted by the swamp. Schiff is sitting on his until Nunes releases the other, factual committee opinion, next week. If Schiff could pre-emptively put this to rest, Schiff would pre-emptively put this to rest. Comey, reportedly featured prominently, has pre-emptively hired a lawyer. ::

 

No need, and our clandestine agencies have escaped the Church reforms. Further, they suck. Stevie Wonder would do a better job of predicting upcoming events. They blew 0/11. They blew WMD's, They blew ISIS, in short they blow. They have repeatedly lied about domestic spying, and under the Direction of Obama, they illegally spied on Trump as a candidate and then tried to drive him from office.

Democrats are desperately trying to hide what they have done, flailing and failing.

From Salon:

Trump vs. the Deep State: This death match of American political power will forever change history

President Trump escalates his battle with the U.S security apparatus

https://www.salon.com/2017/02/20/tr...al-power-will-forever-change-history_partner/

The conflict is deepening. The New York Times reported Thursday that Trump wants to bring in Wall Street billionaire Stephen Feinberg “to lead a broad review of American intelligence agencies.”

The idea is reportedly provoking “fierce resistance” from intelligence officials who fear it "could curtail their independence and reduce the flow of information that contradicts the president’s worldview."

What is the Deep State?

The Deep State is shorthand for the nexus of secretive intelligence agencies whose leaders and policies are not much affected by changes in the White House or the Congress. While definitions vary, the Deep State includes the CIA, NSA, Defense Intelligence Agency and components of the State Department, Justice Department, Department of Homeland Security and the armed forces.

The leaking of classified information is a felonious violation of the National Security Act in 1947. If today's leaks targeted a Democratic national security adviser, they would likely induce outrage.

Writing in Foreign Policy, Marc Ambinder observed, “The fact the nation’s now-departed senior guardian of national security was unmoored by a scandal linked to a conversation picked up on a wire offers a rare insight into how exactly America’s vaunted Deep State works."

As Chuckie Schumer warned: You don't mess with those guys, they have six ways to Sunday to fix your wagon. Well, Trump doesn't even fear solar eclipses.



He isn't just poking The Bear with a stick, he is first going to beat the hell out of it, and then club it to death. Enjoy, this will continue to unfold leading to a crescendo as he launches his re-election bid.

 

That isn't what he spent the last week doing.

He spent the last week waving the bloody shirt, with a lot of help from Trump TV and the Trumpseher Boerbachter.

He released nothing. He won't even show it to the Senate Intelligence Committee or the Justice Department.

He seems to be daring the Justice Department to enjoin him from releasing classified information.

That way, he can drop dark hints on Fox Noise without backing any claim he makes up.

 

LOL, the dems that voted against their own members in the house to see it are now whining they want the Senate to see it. Can’t make this stuff up.

 

You Dems are desperate to leak it to the media so they can preemptively attack it before the public gets to see it. Nunes isn't going to let that happen.

Oh and Tom, Congress provides oversight to the Justice Department, you seem to believe it's the other way around.

 

Interesting spin right there. Check this total destruction out:

 

This house intelligence committee couldn't provide oversight to an ant farm....

 

Especially under GOP control .

 

I've been calling Bob Mueller the Grand Inquisitor, half seriously. After seeing how he bungled the 9/11 anthrax case and persecuted the wrong man, like a modern day Inspector Javert, I think I was closer to the truth than I knew.
Mueller is the Deep State's attack dog.

 

Other Americans also said #releasethememo. I don't care what the Russians want if it coincides with the American interest of finding out the truth. Feinstein and Schiff also tried to make this false argument: If Russians say #releasethememo, it's an interference! No, it's in the interest of this Republic. It's their JOB to be transparent. What do they think we're paying 100K in salary for? To make speeches to empty chambers?

 

It's not in the interest of the country when the memo was CREATED by Nunes and his staff. Pay attention to the work "created" and who created it. Nunes has zero credibility on these issues given his track record of making **** up. If the RUssians are amplifying him then they are defacto coordinating and it is not in the interest of all Americans.

 

They said the Dems are making their own Memo. So how about I do this: I'll read both. I'll read Nunes's memo and the Dem's memo and I'll do my best to discern fact from fiction.